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Fred Brostoff
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The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:29 PM 11-16-16 Its gotten very quiet here in Evanstonia. The cubs won and it rained nostalgia. Trump won and silence reigns among us Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:30 PM 11-18-16 As a child of holocaust survivors, I have some worries about history and the future. I express them in a poem below:
History Marches
History marches into the present, The twenty-first century replaces A twentieth century, sadly spent In world wars, now just memories of faces In photographs of those that perished in World War One, or those lost in World War Two. And then, just when we thought peace would begin, A Cold War came. Then we hoped we were through With war in the new century, but more Wars came, without numbers and without names, For history kept marching, just as before, To tunes of new tyrants of the power games. With new devices, but there are the same Old sounds of hate, fear, anger and despair, Led by megalomaniacs, their aim Is aggrandizement, and it’s always there.
Now smaller wars seem to be everywhere, As terrorists bring war to every land, With madness stirred up into the blank stare Of cold blooded murder that is planned By the insane for the insane, who will Act on their insanity, for the sake Of hatred and revenge, they’ll go and kill Whoever they can, and many will take Their God’s name in vain. That’s now history, As the beginning of this century Still marches to drums of the tragedy Like the last. With a new insanity, History marches on different feet, But they are still ruled by those who want more, More land, more power, they control the beat Of drums, as history marches to war.
It marches to war, as it did before, As it did before. Will it ever cease? Is humanity rotten at its core? Or can we rise above it and make peace? These are the questions for the human race, And have been asked before in history, The answers were the same, but we must face The future with the hope that it will be, Somehow, different from our past errors, That we’ve learned from history, and can try Not to make the same mistakes, but terror’s What terrorists desire, and fears still fly Around us like angry wasps, that may sting. So we call on an exterminator To spray their nest and kill them on the wing, There’s so many, making our fears greater.
Our present, it seems, has a familiar ring, That sounds like war, as we keep on marching Into history, and we keep asking The question, “Haven’t we learned anything?” As history marches, humanity Can learn, and now we can fly into space, But there is still human insanity To cure, if we’re to save the human race. But there’s still more, there’s our stupidity, That Einstein said defines infinity. And as we watch the march of history Into this, the twenty-first century, We have stumbled toward another fall. Our time moves on, we wonder where it went. But as we try to understand it all, History marches into the present.
Robert Lindner Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:32 PM 11-20-16 A very strong and true poem. I am so sorry we are and have become what we have become. Foolish Consistency is the Hob Gob of Little Minds. Sincerely, Karen Sitron Haight Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:33 PM 11-20-16 As the grandchild of German citizens of the 3rd Reich, I have been very sad to whitness in my adopted country the type of scapegoating and fear mongering that propelled Hitler into power. But I'm encouraged to know that here we have safeguards in our government that keep extremism in check . Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:34 PM 11-21-16 The best safeguards our nation has are alert, attentive citizens who are not afraid to speakup and/or act when they see wrongs or injustices being done or observe bigotry/racism. Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:35 PM 11-22-16 Hear, hear, Vernon! Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:36 PM 11-23-16 Yes, Vernon and Alice! And, as a former journalist, I'll just add: an active, ethical press, without which we can't have the educated citizenry necessary for a democracy. So this Thanksgiving I'm grateful for, among other things, the First Amendment. Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:38 PM 11-24-16 That's all very well and good. Unfortunately, and at the risk of opening Pandora's Box, too many electors apparently don't pay much attention to, and actually disbelieve, the "active, ethical press", and they turn instead to sources that too often deal in misinformation, inuendo, unsupported conspiracy theories, and falsehoods. This trend is more ominous for the future of our country than the results of any single election. Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:39 PM 11-26-16 You are right-on, Patrick. What is interesting to me are the positions taken on both sides by intelligent well informed people but the masses, who are less so, are heavily influenced by the forces you describe and they turn the tide. For better or worse, richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part. So let's make the best we can of it. Happy Holidays to all u septuagenarians, and yours Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:40 PM 11-28-16 Patrick, wow, you did open Pandora's box! We must remain vigilany and learn the lessons from history or expect them to be repeated. We must be watchful and vigilant for injustices, seek fact-based truths to guide our future. challenging times ahead but our inherent optimism as a nation will need to rise to the occasion.happy holidays to all, Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:41 PM 11-29-16 Pat, I really appreciated your response (and Robert, yours too, although it was addressing a different topic.) I'm so glad we're finally breaking the post-election silence (which Barry bravely alluded to.) Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:42 PM 12-31-16 Apocalypse? Let's not be melodramatic. When I think of my parents' generation and what they had to give up and live through and create again in a new land, it gives me perspective on the present situation. Yes, we will have some difficult moments and see decisions made that we may not agree with, but, please, coping is part of life. Strong voices are important, and the class of '64 will continue to speak out, but, as I said, perspective is also important. I love the discussions here. Keep them coming. Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:43 PM 12-31-16 2017 December 31, 2017 As I completed this poem this morning, I decided, I’d give you fair warning.
Introduction For Twenty-seventeen, I’m confessing, This poem, I wrote, is a bit depressing. My expectations, unlike Dicken’s Pip, Are low, after our Twenty-sixteen trip. It was a roller coaster of a year, Now there’s a driver, we’re not sure can steer. Happy New Year, though it’s hard to believe, At mad hatter’s party on New Year’s Eve.
At Mad Hatter’s New Year’s Eve Party
In Twenty Seventeen, madness will reign, Because the mad hatters have come to be The government, and make things more insane Than usual. The government’s usually Quite mad, in any case, but this is worse, The asylums have been opened and really Insane men have been let out. It’s the curse Of interesting times, but that’s where we
Are, as 2017 approaches, In Lewis Carroll’s Wonderland, a land Of mad hatters, and talking cockroaches, A mercurial leader and his band, That’s out of tune, and marches to the beat Of mercurial drums, through looking glass, Where a demented hatter takes his seat, In the front of an angry hatter class.
In Carroll’s time, it was the Mercury That hatters used in making hats that made Them mad, and gave them short-term Memory Syndrome. They appeared drunk, as they’d parade Around, confabulating, as they went. Since their memories failed, they made things up. Sounds familiar, as we hear the truth bent By today’s mad hatter, with his tea cup,
And tea party in 2017, The New Year, where we will expect the worst, But hope for the best, since 2016 Is gone and on New Year’s Eve, we all thirst, For, and drink to health and to good fortune. So let’s hope the mad hatters can be cured. Though our sun may be eclipsed by the moon, This too shall pass, but first must be endured.
CODA In 2017, we too must pass Through Wonderland, and Through The Looking Glass. The expectations will be low. It’s sad, When the best we can hope for is, not as bad As we thought. Still, it’s the New Year, so may, Health and Good Fortune be, what comes your way. So Happy Twenty-Seventeen! Why Not! What you wish for, I wish you’ll get a lot.
Happy New Year! Robert Lindner Fred Brostoff |
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Fred Brostoff
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RE: The 2016 Presidential Election Posted Tuesday, January 3, 2017 07:44 PM 12-31-16 Thanks, Ruth. I agree wholeheartedly--coping will be essential. However, I also believe that the challenges presented by what seems to be a world-wide shift to the authoritarian right, politically, and the disregard for "traditional" authority, the distrust or formerly relied-upon, "mainstream" news sources and the notion that there is no "truth", which increasingly appears to be conventional "wisdom" and SOP, all reflected in the recent presidential election, will demand more than that. While really trying not to be too melodramatic, and without disrespecting the trials successfully faced by our parents' generation, I believe that the next few years may be the greatest existential threat to the United States' nearly two-and-a-half century experiment in democracy since WWII. So apocalypse, maybe not, but certainly a very, very serious test of our resolve. Fred Brostoff |
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