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11/11/14 09:36 AM #69    

 

James Giercyk

Daryl - I'd still be concerned about having an adequate sound system for music; I'm not sure an iPod will be adequate unless the room has a PA system.  I shared that concern months ago; since nobody responded, I concluded that music was not a contributing factor to the overall decision.  I wanted to state the concern once again in case the tacet response was an oversight.  In the event it was not and oversight, I am neither suprised, nor do I have anything further to add.


11/11/14 10:22 AM #70    

 

Chris Martell

A very good concern.  Once the venue has been selected, we can look into audio capabilities and requirements. As the defacto musician of the group, I'll bounce some ideas off of you.  C :)


11/11/14 01:17 PM #71    

Jose (Joe) Torres

I see that the venues are pretty much narrowed down to either the Elks Lodge or the Mt. Tabor Country Club. The next question that needs to be answered is. How many people can each location accommodate? By the looks of the photos of the Elks Lodge I'm guessing approx. 80-100. Our graduating class is well over 300 people. Even If half the class comes, along with their significant other, we'll need a location that can accommodate between 250-300 people. 


11/12/14 06:37 AM #72    

Lauren Birnbaum (McHale)

Dar - 

My vote is to still have it at a hotel that has a ballroom, dancefloor, tablecloths and food/drink on premises.

Not everyone still lives local, or has family in the area, and while I have plenty of couches and a bedroom if anyone needed to stay over, the idea of having a hotel room after staying up late and possibly having breakfast/brunch in the morning seems more logical.  A la carte events can add up quite quickly too.

Some events are great at clubs and lodges, others are better suited for hotels with restaurants, and lobbies where there really doesn't have to be an end time to the reunion.  AND IT'S EASY. 

Just my thoughts - Let me know how to help!

 

 

 

 


11/12/14 08:20 AM #73    

 

Daryl Capuano

Hi Jim,

I appreciate the input.  As you likely gather, there is a bit of free for all on the message forum so please don't consider lack of response a purposeful omission.  I agree with Chris. Once the forum is decided, we then move to discussing food and music.  We can't really decide in reverse.

Thank you,

Daryl


11/12/14 08:25 AM #74    

 

Daryl Capuano

Thank   you Jose.

In planning the events over the years, I have worked with professional reunion planners.  The normal attendance for the 10th reunion is 28%.  The number drops thereafter. 

I asked why the percentage is so low.   The answers varied but included the following:

(1) Many people simply didn't like high school

(2) Others choose to keep in touch with a few people from high school but would rather not see the whole collective

(3) Those who are currently not in a good place in life generally don't like attending reunions

(4) Logistically, people live too far and/or are too busy.

(5) Apathy.  Some wouldn't mind going but just don't put in the energy to make it happen.

That's a long way of saying that 50-80 classmates (not including spouses) is the expected number.  If we got to 100 plus, that would be great.

Thanks again,

Daryl


11/12/14 08:27 AM #75    

 

Daryl Capuano

Thank you Lauren.

I greatly appreciate you publicly stating what many others have chosen to e-mail me privately.


11/12/14 08:29 AM #76    

Sigal Cohen (Rice)

Hi All!  I think Lauren has a very valid point about "out of towners". 

As someone who does have functions at the Elks, I do know that the costs do add up quickly.  They do have a sound system how great it is I'm not sure.  However, I do know it can be loud, lol. 


11/12/14 09:35 AM #77    

Jerry Bindel

Hi all. Greetings from Tahoe!

As one of the out of towers, I agree with the thought to make it easy for those who want to stay the night by having the reunion in a hotel with function rooms.  As both the Embassy and Hanover Marriott fit that bill, best to try to stick with one of those two options.  As a lean towards the Marriott, they look to have an Irish pub in the hotel that is open until 2am, while Embassy's closes at 10pm.  That creates a safe outlet for those of us who would like to socialize after the official event is over.  The rooms and event rooms also look very good.  Hopefully we can negotiate a good price or adjust the food or number of comp drinks to get to an acceptable price point for the class, to get maximum attendance.  I can also see some locals staying the night too to socialize and to keep safe, again if the price is not too high.

Daryl, loved your post on reasons to not attend. If I couldn't attend, I'd like to think of myself as a #4, and hopefully not a 1, 3 or 5!

Thanks for taking the lead on this and see you all next year in NJ.

Jerry


11/12/14 10:57 AM #78    

 

James Giercyk

I agree with Lauren, but I understand the cost considerations....that may be reason #6 on the list of reasons people don't attend.  I don't know how many people are planning on coming from out-of-town, but considering the cost of travel and lodging to/from NJ, a higher ticket price to the reunion would be insignificant in the overall cost of the trip.  For someone like me who is is beyond driving distance, the cost of airfare and lodging for 2 and a rental car, is substancial.

Again, I completely understand the need to keep costs down, and so I have not been commenting on the venue.  I appreciate all of the research and hard work that everyone has done; I know a reunion doesn't happen without a lot of effort behind the scenes.  I just wanted to add my perspective as an "out-of-towner".


11/12/14 12:35 PM #79    

 

Michael Hurta

Perhaps the other thought that needs to be stated publicly, is that it's hard to imagine having a 30 year reunion at a lodge of any sort.  I don't mind lodges for weekly networking, charitable functions and local soicalizing, but I see 30 years as something more special.  Many of us have the lodge experience throughout the year, as it is.

As with my previous comments, a big thanks to all those in town who have all the facts, who are working to figure out the best solution.

Mike

 


11/12/14 02:04 PM #80    

Robin Coe (Hanna)

Of the four locations, Embassy Suites probably seems the most logical.  Not only does it have the ballroom but it would provide hotel accomodations on-site for many of us coming from out-of-town as well as breakfast the next morning for alumni to reconnect.  None of the other three sites - the Hanover Manor, the Elks Club and the Mt Tabor Lodge - provide this option.

 I would suggest though that the event still be touted as a casual affair so hopefully it can continue to be a cost-effective event for all.  Between hotel accomodations, travel costs, and the reunion ticket(s) it can get to be very expensive and the whole point of a reunion is to be able to open it up to as many of the 1985 graduates as possible.


11/13/14 11:03 AM #81    

 

Chris Martell

I'm going to throw one more suggestion, or perhaps 'minor tweak' is a more appropriate term, as it seems that many are in favor of the hotel route.  I was thinking about Jerry's post and the Marriott is a nice place and it also has the Auld Shabeen bar downstairs.  This would be very convenient as many of us who attended the 25th we were hanging out until the wee hours of the morning.  That said, IF we choose the hotel route, what about a more open 'cocktail party' type set-up?  In the ballroom area but not IN a ballroom.  I've been to several functions like this and they have turned out well.

That's it for me.  I'll wait to see which direction is chosen.  Thanks all.


11/13/14 12:08 PM #82    

Gloria Basem

Thanks to those who have been doing the legwork and researching options.  While I haven't weighed in as I felt those who were doing all this work should really have the greater voice, but I will throw in an opinion... What I like most about the hotel or the Manor is that it's easy - we don't have to have people running and out of pocket purchasing food, beverage, paper, etc. In addition, we will have people managing the event so we'll all have a good time instead of some "working" the event to make sure food is out, drinks restocked, etc.  Ok- so i also agree with Mike about prefering the setting for an event like this.  The hotel seems to be the preference of many who will need to travel - so that would take my "vote".

I appreciate that many need to watch costs and for those coming in from out of town, the reunion is just the tip of the total costs.  From what I've seen, it looks as though we can manage the total costs so that it could come out near the same.  Music is important but iphones instead of DJs or bands can work just as well. I'd also consider an open bar as a way to let people spend what they want.  I'm sure there are other ways we could make this work on a budget.

Hoping to see everyone next year... Gloria


11/13/14 09:54 PM #83    

 

Sherry Schreiner (Beckwith)

Hi All..

I just read the new posts and agree that the hotel option seems to be a great idea. I know when we come to see high school friends on weekends for our band mates, we tend to stay overnight even though we are about an hour and half away in Connecticut now. As out of towners we will definately be adding a hotel to the cost of the tickets regardless so we feel if it could be on site, all the better. Especially if there is a small club/bar area for any after party gatherings.

I like Chris' suggestion for the "cocktail hour" style just recently posted as well. I know when we attended the 25th, we were one of the many who did linger outside at the bar and that area with friends and then went off to a diner for food afterwards. A hotel venue is practical and if those of us are coming in from out of town don't stay with family, its nice not to have to drive elsewhere for a hotel.

Having planned and hosted events like this, I will say there is always going to be a small number of people who don't like what gets decided. In looking at my photos from the 25th I realize the goal is to have a lot more of the class have the opportunity to come out and keeping costs low may not be the deciding factor. If we can bundle services and take the suggestion of using a music mix that everyone will relate to and enjoy to have fun cutting the costs of a DJ (who almost everyone at the 25th complained about anyway) I am sure someone has some great mixes and we can tap into a sound system.

You are all doing a great job. I wish I was closer to help more.

Sherry

 

 


11/14/14 10:38 AM #84    

 

Michael Hurta

Another thought as we approach the end of this year. Does anyone who has traveled frequently know the sweet spot for airline ticket reservation best prices?  In other words, how many weeks or months prior a tentative date would help to get the cheapest fares?  I know it can be hit or miss.  

 


11/17/14 05:37 PM #85    

 

Daryl Capuano

I have no preference for a formal or casual reunion.  My main interest is ensuring that - whatever we decide - every classmate is informed of the event.  My other primary interest is ensuring that the process for decision making is fair.  Fair does not mean that everyone will be happy.  It does mean that everyone has a chance to be heard and that major decisions are made by consensus.

The catalyst for a self-generated reunion stemmed from the desire by some to make the reunion casual and inexpensive. 

At the moment, the growing consensus for a venue is a hotel.  Events at hotels are not casual.  Moreover, while we can attempt to be as cost-effective as possible, the overall cost will be more similar to a formal event than a casual one.

We have to move forward soon if we are going to book a hotel.

Before doing so, however, I want to make sure that all those who expressed an interest in going casual and keeping costs down have an opportunity to voice their opposition and shift the majority back onto their side.

Otherwise, we probably should finalize our hotel choice by early December.

 

 


11/18/14 07:59 AM #86    

Michelle Liebl (Davis)

Hi all,

I may be late to the game here but do we have a date?

Thanks, Michelle (aka Shely Liebl)

 


11/18/14 11:46 AM #87    

 

Daryl Capuano

Hi Shely (I thought it was "Shelly" all these years),

I was just out with a group, one of whom asked who is "Michelle Davis?"

No date yet.

Daryl


11/19/14 07:17 AM #88    

Michelle Liebl (Davis)

Hah!  It is Shelly.  Typo.  Thanks


03/05/15 04:45 PM #89    

 

Daryl Capuano

As of March 2015, we were considering three options:

1.)       Self-created inexpensive reunion

2.)       Self-created hotel reunion

3.)       Professionally planned reunion

I should first note that Robin Coe has been extraordinary in her work for the unofficial reunion committee.  She deserves the lion’s share of gratitude for her efforts, particularly because she has been doing most of her work behind the scenes.

I also thank everyone else who tangibly contributed to create the above options.  I would cite names but you can all look through the threads to see those who have been doing the work and I don’t want to inadvertently leave anyone out.

 

Option 1:  Self-created inexpensive reunion

While the location has not been set, there are a few possibilities for an inexpensive reunion.  The Elks (see Sigal’s post) and Mt. Tabor Country Club (see Chris’s post) are the two main candidates.

Some have vehemently complained to me privately.  So, I know there is opposition to the idea.  While I prefer to abstain from taking any side, I’ll suggest that if there doesn’t seem to be a consensus, I’d rather go the inexpensive route simply out of fairness because the last reunion was considered expensive.

Nonetheless, if you are opposed, please state so publicly. 

Option 2: Self-created hotel reunion

As I’ll describe, this is not really an option.  We can contract with the Embassy Suites or any other moderately upscale hotel for a slightly lower price point than one we would get from a professional reunion planner.  The challenge is the contract.

Someone (or group of people) must make a deposit (non-refundable) and sign a contract that will create a legal obligation to guarantee the contracted number for the room reserved.   

So, if we contract for a room size of 100, the signer of the contract is on the hook for 100 to show.  The Embassy Suites Manager took pains to insist that 85% of the contracted number is all that is required.  Nonetheless, someone still has to deposit $300-$500 to hold the spot and someone will be responsible for ensuring 85 people show or have to pay the money for the difference between the contracted amount and the actual revenue generated.  We discussed going to a smaller room but someone will still be at risk.  So, unless there are volunteers to sign the contract, this option is untenable. 

 

Option 3: Professional Reunion

I asked for the most inexpensive options from Reunions Unlimited:

The Crowne Plaza Hotel, Fairfield, NJ (Available 10/24)

  •   89.00 per person for a buffet dinner with a cash bar

The Madison Hotel, Morristown, NJ (Available 9/19)                                      

  •   91.00 per person for a buffet dinner with a cash bar

 

All packages include dinner, all taxes and gratuities, a DJ, any and all costs in putting your reunion together, (specifically research, postage, phone calls, printing, etc.). Also included will be an online alumni directory for each graduate attending, the registration staff present the night of your reunion, and name tags.

Process:

In the past, the professional reunion planner solved all the headaches related to differences of opinion; ensured that everyone in the class would get contacted or at least that everyone was on equal footing to get contacted; and removed all contractual issues.

But there were a reasonable number of classmates who wanted an inexpensive option and several people who assured me that they would help contact every member of our class (thanks again Robin!).  So I assumed that we would simply go that route. I didn’t realize that there would be so many people who preferred the hotel option. 

Over the next few weeks, state your preferences and, if you wish, your reasons for your preferences.  If there is no discussion or no consensus, then I’ll suggest that we go the inexpensive route to ensure fairness.  With that said, those who privately contacted me to complain about going that route should advocate their case.

Thank you for any input.


03/06/15 11:44 AM #90    

 

Chris Martell

My preference has been and remains a more casual atmosphere.  Whether that is at a local bar, Elks Club or hotel makes little difference to me.  The room we had at the 25th reunion was depressing...no offense to the organizers but, it was bland.  I've attended hotel parties in common areas of the hotel which were much more fun...like a cocktail hour at a wedding.  No reason we couldn't do that.  And could we have a decorating committee?  Suggest that the music (if planned by a coordinator) reflect the 80s in some way?  Something to remind us of 1985?

That's my 2 cents.

 


03/06/15 10:32 PM #91    

Susan Gnibus (Wasienko)

Hi there....just weighing in. I don't live in the area so I would have to get a hotel no matter which route we go so inexpensive or more expensive ,either is fine. I do like the hotel option and even more so the option of having my room be located where my party is! I think a DJ should  cue up 80's music only! i haven't been to any reunions so my preference would be a reunion with my class  as I haven't had a chance to catch up with a lot of my own class members. The outdoor option sounds nice ,definitely relaxed. wish there was a way to work in both, an event at a hotel and a more casual gathering. At any rate I will wait to see what  the  bottom line is. Thanks Daryl for the momentum and not giving up the ship. The date depends on what we do right? Standing by .......sue (Gnibus) Wasienko


03/07/15 09:59 AM #92    

Michelle Liebl (Davis)

Hi all,

Daryl, did you know, when back in high school, your presidency would run over 30 years??  Thanks so much for keeping on with this.  Like Sue, I would be travelling, needing a hotel room and love the idea being in the same place- but would try to make it work in any event.

Thanks again and I hope to be seeing everyone!  Michelle (Shelly Liebl) Davis

 


03/07/15 12:14 PM #93    

 

Michael Hurta

Hi all... 

Thanks again for all the behind the scenes research and time...

While my original preference was for a hotel venue, I will yield to the "inexpensive" option in light of Daryl's update regarding the necessity of a signed contract and personal liability to whomever is ultimately going to lead.  At minimum this would be a major pain in the butt, at worst, a huge financial risk.  Since I'm out of town, as others have mentioned, I have to get a hotel room regardless of the venue.  

Daryl - Do you have a drop-dead date when you feel a final decision / date will be determined?  You mentioned in your last post "a few weeks".  We're already in March and I know my calendar is filling up pretty quickly.  Do you think we can get a commitment by Sunday, April 5? (just to throw out a date). 

At this point, I'll go wherever, so long as Chris Martell provides those oversized Stella's as advertised in his photo :-) 

Mike Hurta

 


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