Definition of Opinion:  A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof.

Please be respectful to others with differing opinions. 

Mary Powers (Evans)

Jim and DeWitt, I know this is not the point of your posts, but just to be accurate, there are more than XX and XY.  See Variations - The Association for X and Y Chromosome Variations

Patty Meyers (Anderson)

Mary, what are the percentages of those variations?

David Rainwater

As usual, Mary is correct.  In addition to chromosomal abnormalities, there are mutations that affect types of hormones produced or the body's response to hormones that also violate a simple binary view of sex and gender.  These are very difficult issues for parents and the affected individual to deal with.  I've seen an estimate of these intersex individuals at about 1.7% of the population, approximately the same proportion as those who are born with red hair.

Jim Coats

There they are!  I'm so gratified to see the rise of Democrats on this site once again.  I could be wrong, but the implication was that sometimes boys CAN compete against girls.

OH!  And BTW....I am particularly happy to see the Klinefelter Syndrome mentioned as I was beginning to believe it was being overlooked.  Thank you so much!

It appears that I have ruffled the feathers of Mary and Dr. Rainwater once again by stating the obvious.  We The People don't make policy based on an extreme anomoly when it comes to apportioning membership on male and female athletic teams.  If we did, we would surely have to limit membership on the girls teams in Kalifornia to the progeny of Democrats only and keep those pesky Republicans out.  It's a very simple thing....boys v. boys and girls v. girls.

AMERICA FIRST!

Nancy Scott (Nicoll)

Mike K.,  Please update us on your new leg!  Joining the others in praying for the outcome!

Bill RIHS

Jim, it's a complicated issue, kind of like citizenship and voter ID to vote 😎.

Michael Kelly

Nancy Scott, et. al.  To update on the new left Prostheses, the doctor said day before yesterday, that he is looking to Stabilize the Measurements of my lower left leg before fitting me with a new Prostheses because he is going to put one of the new Feet on it to make it more user friendly. Having worn the standard foot before, it had very little if any flex in it at all, so going up or down and incline was a sometimes slippery proposition. But I was looking through Facebook one afternoon, and happened across the picture of a man who had just climbed Mount Everest wearing a Prostheses on both legs. Now that is determination I would call it, so I best not get to discouraged with the intricacies of using one. The Doctor also told me that he has a Patient who has been wearing a Prostheses on his lower left leg, like me, and this man performs Tricks with Horses, that involve Horse Dancing which is popular in Mexico. The Doctor says the Man makes his own Prostheses and because hisd Stub is only 3 inches from knee to bottom, he makes it work using a Leather strap to keep it in place. The man is a Trick Rider with horses, and earns his living with his horses, including what is called Horse Dancing. It us very interesting when your randomly dealing with a problem you have, and then you find out other people have dealt with that problem and more, and are Sailing right along under Full Sail and they are Captaining their very own Three Master at Full Sail on a Rolling Ocean and your still navigating the Harbor. 

I sincerely do want to make it to one or more of your Beer Summits, as it would be a real pleasure to see all of you in person. I have made two attempts but for one reason or another, have not made it there. One attempt I had a Flat Rear Tire, out by Bukeye and would up finding a place to get all 4 LT Tires on my HummerH3 for 800 which was a Steal or maybe I should say a Bargain.  The other failed attempt. We ran out of Gas, got to The Vig, but missed you by about an hour. One of these days I will make it there. God help you all if I do !!! LoL

Jim Coats

Lefty.  The next Beer Summit is September as far as I know.  You'd better stump your way to one of them.  I'm not getting any younger, you know.

Frank Wiley

Hi Mike, It was Great seeing you in California a while back.  It was interesting that you mentioned seeing other people that have even more challenges than we do.  Please know that we appreciate your humor and intelligence in spite of your challenges.  You are an inspiration to me and I'm sure all the rest of our Classmates!!  Thank you!!

Frank Wiley

When we were growing up and even into our 20's +- we never hardly heard about shootings in Our Country!!  Obviously we don't have to watch or listen to the news but now it is truly 24/7/365.  For what it's worth-----when you see something on the news that effects you emotionally---don't watch it over and over.  The Media will say this might might not be suitable to watch and then repeat it numerous times.  I remember a person in my Rotary Club in Sun Lakes talking about the Tsunami that hit Japan.  He, after watching it on replays (time after time) that he was loudly telling the people on his TV screen to run.  And, just in case you might be curious about this Rotarian, that person was very intelligent.  Thanks!

DeWitt Bacon

Nancy, Thanks for your attempt to lead the conversation away from the political, so I will make just one more post on the issue of X and Y chromosomes before I crawl back into my silence on this forum.

There are only two types of chromosomes in the body. X and Y. We need to have two chromosomes: XX for females and XY for males. That is not in dispute. When Mary referred to 'variations', I believe she is actually referring to abnormalities or degeneration of one or more chromosomes. This can lead to confusion in the brain as to your gender. I have two examples in my family. One, the male, does not cross-dress and hasn't changed his name, nor has his partner. They enjoy being together in a romantic sense. The female is totally transgender. SHE dresses like a man and has changed HER name to fit her needs.

I present this post as MY OPINION as posted at the top of this page and do not expect others to agree.

Bye for now.

Bill Randall

Must suggest of the "Beer Summit Staff" a date in Sept's meeting that a Van is hired (rented) for 8 to 10 persons. A halfway point is determined and a journey is planned to make Mike's convergence possible. My vote is to stay on the AZ side, even if it means Brown-BAGS behind the Circle K.We are 3hours away, in traffic from CA stateline.

Jim Coats

Nice thought Bill....or was that a joke?  Either way....no way for me.  I don't even like driving from way North Scottsdale during rush hour to The Vig as it is.

Maybe we can FedEx Mike from CA to The Vig????  Are you up for that Lefty?

Michael Kelly

I appreciate the Thought about making it easier for myself to get to the next Vig. Hopefully by then I can Drive myself over in the Hummer and al least hobble my way in somewhat akin to  "GrandPappy Amos" the Head of the Clan if you Remember the TV Show "The McCoys"  I actually enjoyed his singing that Song  "That Mule, Old Rivers, and Me" which he sang. I don't think Waylon Jennings ever tried to copy is rendition. 

There is a Report of a case that has come down from the United States Supreme Court about a Sweeping Change in Second Amendment Law, and the Court deciding that the States have backslid into giving the Second Amendment a Lesser Considertion as compared to some of the other Amendments. The Decision is supposedly a 9 to 0 Case. It affects the ability to have a Concealed License, and what cops can ask you about during a Traffic Stop when you are Carrying Concealed. 

Do any of you keep up with the current state of how the Wild Horses of the Salt River are being considered. When I lived over there, until 1976, I did not notice many horses that were cosidered the "Wild Horses of the Salt River" and I think they are more accurately designated "The post Pandemic Wild Horses of the Salt River" because some of thiem sure look like they are genetically composed of some Purebred Quarter Horse Blood, they are well put together for that Breed. Now there are quite a few of them. Of Course, they could just be from the Salt River Indian Reservation running Free. Is there talk of removing them. 

Michael Kelly

Coats  Fed Exing me to the Vig, doesn't sound so good, there are size limits, now maybe if it by way of Anazon, and I could have 2 or 3 of  them accompany me on the Trip that wouldn't be so bad. 

Jim Coats

Lefty.  If I am anything, I AM accommodating.  However, all I could find were two 5'2" transgender Amazons with blue hair (not that there's anything wrong with that) to accompany you when we ship you here via Amazon.  Let me know if that works for you and I will start a Go Fund Me scam to take care of the expenses.

Michael Kelly

Always the Thoughtful one Coats, I'll bet you would make sure those 5' 2" roly poly Amazonettes with their pink hair would have their own "Cuts" and Harleys with Kick Starters. 

I was pondering on the truly Exhorbitant amount of Gasoline Tax us Californias pay at the pump, I think we are now the most Cents per Gallon of any State in the USA, and with the newly found uses in the employing of AI to perform different complex tasks,  the amount of tax revenue of Califonria just off of fuel sales could be arrived at. I was wondering how AI could be used to make the true computation of how many billions of dollars are generated by our tax dollars per gallon by measuring the  numbers of vehicles traversing the various areas where our Freeways intersect other Freeways, count the numbers of vehicles traverse for a 24 hour period our Freeway Miles, then calculate the miles per gallon each vehicle was used for trips on the Freeway that day, Add all those up, and then calculate the milers per gallon each vehicle could be assumed to total for that day, get the mileage from that, Add them all together, get the total number  of miles travelied multiplied by the total gallons of gas purchased that day, I think some how some way, we could know fairly closely what the number of tatal gallons of gas consumeed multipled by the tax on gallon of gas divided by and those figures would show an astounding amount of Taxable Revenue that is collected each day by the State of Califonia alone off vehicle miles driven per day. I beiieve we would discover that we have collectively been Stolen From by the Millions Every Day, and that Gas Tax alone is more than enough to keep the State of California Solvent.

I have heard that Drinking too many energy Drinks in any one day can have a negative effect on a person.

Frank Wiley

Hi Mike, Maybe your high gas tax helps pay for your high speed train that goes from nowhere to nowhere and probably will never move?

Patty Meyers (Anderson)

Happy Birthday  🥳 🎂 🎉 🎁 🎊  DeWitt!

DeWitt Bacon

Thank you Patty

Jim Coats

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DeWitt....and many more!!

Bill RIHS

Happy birthday DeWitt👍🎂👏🎉

Michael Kelly

Happy Birthday DeWitt. Not to get to Technical but isn't there some degree of Scientific Recognition which does not seek to invent an entirely New Gender, but still fecognizes that abnormality does occur in the human Genome on occasion due to DNA deviation from the Norm, without trying to make it a new Rock to fight to the death to stand upon? I think Reginald Price would have said something about this. After all, we have  Burros, and Horses, and Mules. and no one has claimed that they represent a brand new additrion to the equine World. 

Frank Wiley

Happy Birthday DeWitt!!

Frank Wiley

When Joe was President I said Jill was the new "Dumb Blond" Joke.  She is now reinforcing my statement.  I wonder how many dumb people will buy her new book?