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02/20/09 08:44 PM #558    

 

Val Iberall (O'Connor)

I put a memorial about Allison Krause on the bottom of the page of Sr. Photos/Homerooms/In Memory section.

02/20/09 09:30 PM #559    

Terri Morris (Balchen)

I was the one who wrote about being from Roxboro Elementary and Roxboro Jr High.
You wondered why you haven't heard from any of us.

This isn't a slam, it is just the way I saw it-
I tried posting in the forum and was ignored.
So I gave up.

02/20/09 09:58 PM #560    

 

Val Iberall (O'Connor)

Terri, I don't think anyone gets ignored on this site, all the information that people are supplying is a collective way for everyone's memories of the time to be coming together as one. This is an amazing site, getting people from the past back together with the people they all became in the future. And you are one of them, as is everyone.

02/20/09 10:27 PM #561    

 

Sheryl Weiss (Levine)

I, too, was at Kent State my freshman year when the four students were killed. I did not realize that Allison was from Cleveland area. I was in the dorm cafeteria (Allyn Hall)when we heard the gunshots. All classes were cancelled, and we were not allowed to leave the dorm. That was before cell phones,and I know our parents were worried not being able to reach us. All the phone lines were down. My roommate had a car on campus, and we drove to Cleveland airport when they let us leave, and everyone called their parents from the airport. It was pretty scary that weekend, like being in a war-zone...May 4, 1970 is one of those dates never forgotten.

02/21/09 01:14 AM #562    

 

Val Iberall (O'Connor)

I need names for some Coventry pictures that are on as well as Northwood. If anyone knows any of the names, please email me. thanks!

02/21/09 01:32 AM #563    

 

Anne Gutow (Chapman)

Terri,
Didn't Fairfax also feed into Roxboro JH? What about Canterbury?
I think we've completely forgotten about Canterbury Elementary.

Val and Steve,
I think Coventry fed into Roxboro JH and Roosevelt. Roxboro ES and Fairfax fed into Roxboro JH.
Canterbury may have divided between Roxboro JH and Wiley.

Val,
Thank you for the tribute to Allison.

02/21/09 07:15 AM #564    

Terri Morris (Balchen)

Anne, I do know that Fairfax and Roxboro Elementary went to Roxboro Jr High. I'm not too sure about Canterbury.
Roxboro was a beautiful Jr High.
The only ugly thing there was Miss McCann, the gym teacher.
*shudder*

02/21/09 09:11 AM #565    

 

Steven A. Fox

Jr high gym teachers were a trip.... At roosevelt they had us marching like military.... Hated Gym... did try out once for football and did not make the cut....

02/21/09 09:57 AM #566    

Michael Wager

Steve - I have a slightly differnt view of junior high gym teachers.

Ray Warner was one of the most decent and inspring people that I knew from that stage of life. He was forceful but balanced. He was my homeroom teacher and gym teacher. I have seen him in recent years (he was a 'redcoat" (usher) at Playhouse Square).

On the other hand, I observed that Cappy was a forbidding and hard personality.

Finally, that was a long time ago, so I would submit that they both had our best interests at heart.

MW

02/21/09 10:29 AM #567    

 

Marc Charney

Sandra Scheuer was my cousin and as I understand it an innocent bystander at Kent State when she was killed by the national guard ( a stray bullet ). She was from Youngstown .

02/21/09 10:38 AM #568    

Sandie Kanter (Fine)

Marc,
I never knew Sandra was your cousin, I'm so sorry. She was in the same sorority as my sister-in-law. I'm also sorry for any pain the KSU discussion might be causing you.

02/21/09 10:42 AM #569    

Shelley Safier (Kozak)

Marc, that is so sad...I'm so sorry. It could have happened to any of us there that day. One guy had his rifle 6 inches from my face- all I was doing was trying to reach the safety of my dorm from gym class, which was on the other side of the ROTC bldg "remains." The whole day was so surreal.
I had also been home for the weekend and my parents made me go back Sunday night for Monday classes...I wish I would have refused. It's hard to get a memory like that out of your head, even after all of these years.

Shelley

02/21/09 02:28 PM #570    

 

Anne Gutow (Chapman)

Marc,
I am so sorry to hear that you were related. As hard as the KSU killings were for everyone else, the permanence of it hit you closest.

Several years ago, while my daughter was preparing to go to KSU (her first college), I did some extensive on-line research trying to teach my children about the May 4 killings. At the time, I found a more complete biography of Allison Krause written as some sort of project by Barry Seibert (also from CHHS).
The significance here is two-fold:
#1) He was a real person to me because I used to babysit for him, his sister married my sister's ex-husband, and I later worked with their mom at Mt.Sinai (small world department).
#2) I can't find it on-line anymore.

I'm pretty sure that Allison attended Taylor for several years, not just sixth grade, though.

02/21/09 02:33 PM #571    

 

Sandy Beksa (White)

Hi Terri Morris, my mother worked at both Roxboro's . She was a lunch playground supervisor . She blew her whistle and everyone ran ! Do you remeber her ? She then followed me to high school and much to my dismay she worked in the cafeteria . I never went in there . She did get some great cookie recipes though . I am hoping you might know what happened to Laura Sweeny . She went to Roxboro and Coventry .

02/21/09 02:36 PM #572    

 

Sandy Beksa (White)

Hi Sandie Kanter , You were not a nerd .You were adorable . I think the school was just so big that we all ran around in a maze and we all thought we were nerds .

02/21/09 02:43 PM #573    

 

Sandy Beksa (White)

My thinking about Kent is those four students deaths had an enormous impact on our country and the war. I believe they helped end it . They were our soldiers and hero's Amen !
( That day everyone was hitching home from school in a panic )

02/21/09 02:57 PM #574    

 

Marc Charney

Sandy
in a sense you are right they had a major impact but it would have been nice if they had a choice.

02/21/09 03:10 PM #575    

 

Anne Gutow (Chapman)

I also believe that to some extent these students helped to end the war and to depolarize the nation (to the best of anyone's ability).
But here we are in Iraq. Why and what did we learn?

02/21/09 04:12 PM #576    

 

Sandy Beksa (White)

I just wanted to delete this long winded view of Kent . I was denied access so I just erased everything I wrote . Thanx

02/21/09 04:34 PM #577    

 

Anne Gutow (Chapman)

Sandy,
I didn't think that you meant that at all and I certainly don't take it personally.

I agree that the Kent victims didn't die in vain. I fully agree with you about how powerful our generation has been. I think it's possible that our generation has brought more changes to this country than any single generation since our country's founding ... (Somebody who knows American history well, help me out here.)

I'll never ever forget seeing a blurb on TV last fall: Obama was campaigning in Missouri and there was a crowd of middle-aged (like us) plaid-shirted men carrying signs that read, "Rednecks for Obama". That said it all.

02/21/09 04:49 PM #578    

 

Sandy Beksa (White)

Yep that's us . Still out there trying to change the world. Even our music reflected how we felt . Peter ,Paul and Mary And the Beatltes were all about love peace and hope . Heavy Metal was a reflecton of our anger and there was Doin's wonderful song Abraham, Martin and John . We our a very Good generation. Something to be proud of .

02/21/09 11:46 PM #579    

 

Anne Gutow (Chapman)

I have a complete change of subject:
Was somebody in our class shot to death in a bar on Coventry in the early 1970's?
If so, what was his name?

02/22/09 09:03 AM #580    

 

Patrick Corrigan

Brian Hacker was shot and killed at the C-Saw on Coventry. Not sure if he was in our class, however.

02/22/09 09:22 AM #581    

 

Patrick Corrigan

Speaking of the dark side, while we have many classmates who have achieved wonderfully in this life, there are others who have chosen a different path.

02/22/09 10:21 AM #582    

Terri Morris (Balchen)

Ricky Robbins went to Roxboro Jr High too.

Duncan Poirier was murdered in TX. I posted the link on his Memory thread.

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