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11/12/08 10:22 PM #895    

Tracey Ulrich (Dawson)

What is kind of funny is when we travel with the boys the flight attendant always asks the boys if this is their first time flying. We haven't actually figured it out but I think it's estimated that they've traveled about 80 or 90 thousand miles.

11/12/08 10:24 PM #896    

Tracey Ulrich (Dawson)

All these miles took place between the ages of 3/4 to 7/8.

11/12/08 10:30 PM #897    

Tracey Ulrich (Dawson)

Looks like I need to go. Husband is hawking around. Later.

11/12/08 10:32 PM #898    

Gwen Norman (Martin)

my kids haven't flown that much just 5 or 6. What is amazing thoughr is that the kids down here are not exposed to even half of what we were. when Jarred was young we always took his best friend with us. Well at the galleria in Birmingham his friend looks around him and says "Wow you can fit 100 Bill's Dollar Stores in here" The best was when we took them to Canada. We are laying on the Beach at Pt. Peele T.J. looks around with this bewildered look on his face and Keith asked him what was wrong. T.J. replied "Mr. Keith, I am in another country" We laughed so hard. We took them to Cedar Point 2 years ago and the bill came T.J. and another one of Jarred's friends Reggie were with us--Keith looks at the waitress and uses his best red-neck voice to ask her if they took food stamps. Reggie about died, T.J. almost started crying because he was afraid that we didn't have money to pay for supper.

11/12/08 10:34 PM #899    

Gwen Norman (Martin)

Good Night--my hubby is asleep on the couch--situation normal

11/13/08 08:55 AM #900    

April Passen (Ochman)

Good morninng all...anyone lurking? Need some morning comedy.

11/13/08 10:18 AM #901    

April Passen (Ochman)

Tara...about weed, this burnout never liked weed either, I did not like the state of uselessness it made me feel. I was a drinker, caffine, & mescline user. I liked the uppers, hense I know that alcohol is actually a depressant not stimulant...but drinking in the right state of mind & w/the right people the depressant doesn't really kick in till the next morning.

As for boring...My boys have never stayed away from our home either, not even to a relatives...w/the exception of my oldest boy did stay w/Jen Pirronello only the night before my C-section w/his brother...ya know that 5am at the hospital thing just seemed to early for a 14 month old to be toted around that early. My daughter is 10 & could stay the night away every weekend if she had a chance after her brothers were born. She does not like to share her parents w/her brothers. In 10 years I have only been out on a date w/hubby to weddings, & Star Wars movies. I hate the movies but I give him star wars. We've been together 16 years & I've only gone to maybe 6 movies w/him. Now for going out...this last year I've been out 3 times...Once when BF came in from Arizona, once was the attempted ford lanes reunion...about 10 people total 4 being from 88, & then the funeral of Bobby Tacker. Before this year last time out other then the after funeral drinks, I had not been out since April 26th 2002. Had I remember the date...that was my Atantis trip.

As for feeding & premie issues...3 kids...first Colic, she was the worse...I think total for first 2 months the girl might have gotten 30 hours of sleep. Then I found the mircle cure, Gripe water from Canada...she started sleeping 8-10 hours a night straight threw. 2nd kid was was my premie...He was born a month early, on a Thursday, needed oxygen in the NICU for 24 hours & Sunday I insisted he go home w/me. He had constipation problems but then the Gripe Water helped w/that too, relized that about week 3...& smooth sailing w/him. The 3rd had gerd, which had me feeding him every 2 hours for first month & a half, then the speicalist told me to put Ceral in his formula & the food was kept down a little more...but did have to feed every 4 hours for 6 months.

Funny how we all seemed to of had at least one NICU baby. I was rather blessed w/mine most of his problems & concerns were during pregnancy, & then later w/talking & potty training. Mine is in Kindergarten now, a Video game junky, & my wussy. He does have some issues now but they seem to be brought on by my over protectiveness & babying.

11/13/08 12:58 PM #902    

Tracey Ulrich (Dawson)

April or Tara, did either of you have an apnea monitor at home after NICU? We did and the blasted thing kept going off. Brad would sleep right through it. I was a nervous wreck. It got to the point where neither Bill nor I could sleep in anticipation of the monitor going off. We stopped using it and everyone slept better after that.
Thomas, my youngest, was a month early but he was never in NICU. He was breech, thus the emergency c-section. He was also already 6 pounds. He was huge compared to Bradley at 4lbs 2oz. I bet he would have been 8 lbs if I had gone full term.
Thomas took forever to sleep through the night. I think he just liked the closeness of being together. It can be exhausting to have your sleep interrupted constantly and then get up the next day with a baby and a toddler.
I miss having the boys as little ones but I don't miss the sleeplessness.

11/13/08 01:09 PM #903    

April Passen (Ochman)

Tracey no I had no monitors once we were home.


Robert??? Woohoo...this usually is your prime time, are you lurking at all? I need some escape from baby talk?

11/13/08 01:18 PM #904    

April Passen (Ochman)

What if I were to say...SEX, DRUGS, & ROCK-n-ROLL?

Have you egged anyone lately?


Ozzy Rules?

11/13/08 04:22 PM #905    

Tara Wismar (Nickell)

Tracey,
Yes we had the apnea monitor, oxygen and a special heart monitor. He was the king of A's and B's in the NICU! I remember one night I was up to feed him, usually John would feed him and I had to do the thing that only moms can do to do to feed their babies, I didn't want to offend and men on here and actually say the word! But anyway we both had to be up most of the time, seeing as it took the baby 45 minutes just to dink an ounce or two. Anyhow, one night I gave John a well deserved break (bless his heart) and while I was feedng John and I looked down at him and he was a blue as a crayon. I forgot to put his oxygen canula on! I freaked out. Then at a DAC (Developmental Assessment Clinic, we went every month for 2 years, his NICU doctors (neonatologists) evaluate the progress that your baby is making such as holding their heads up, their size, their milestones then they give you all your physical, speech and occupational therapy needs and they give you their "corrected" age. Well, at this one meeting they were reviewing the information on the monitors, they were very concerned because there were a ton of apneas, we were never told to remove the leads when he was feeding. He did not breathe while he was sucking so he would have A's & B's. He was on the all the monitors and oxygen until he was about 10 months old. We needed to keep him on all of that becasue he needed surgery to correct some common preemie problems and they did not like to put such a small baby under if not necessary so we had to wait until he was 10 pounds so at 10 months old he weighed about 12 pounds so he had his surgery and we kept the monitors for only two weeks after that! Had to say that after carrying the monitors and oxygen around for that long, I was happy to see them go. My husband on the other hand was a wreck. It was nice to see John's little face with no tape marks. When we brought John home he was little over 2 months old and only weighed 2 pounds 15 ounces! He seemed very big to us but it did not seem big enough to come home but there are no weight requirements any longer for preemies. They have to be off the vent (we did that in less than 2 weeks) they have to be able to drink from a bottle (something babies that early do not know how to do, gestationally I think it 32 weeks or so) and they need to maintain their body temperature for 24 hours in a crib. A trip through the NICU is not for inpatient people, it is a roller coaster and I don't wish it any parent or baby! Here I go typing again. Ryann is almost sleeping and John is with his daddy again!

11/13/08 07:51 PM #906    

April Passen (Ochman)

Daughter is back from camp, Yeah! Her boo boo was an accident! She is missing camp, never missed us. Brat!

11/13/08 08:31 PM #907    

Gwen Norman (Martin)

Tara,

Wow!--This is what I do for a living--I play. So, my question is has he caught up? Does he run, jump, walk forward, backward, Up/down stairs with an alternating pattern and no handrail?

Then out of curiosity, was it easy to get EI services at home? or did you have to fight for his rights?

11/13/08 08:37 PM #908    

Gwen Norman (Martin)

The NICU was not a fun place. We came home with no apnea monitors just blood sugar checks every 2 hours. Her little heels we like hamburger. My only concern now is that the anoxia and hypoglycemia did something to her critical thinking skills. She is a wiz at reading and comprehending what she read---math is terrible for her. We show her how to do it at home and she is fine, they don't do it at school for a couple of days and she bombs it. I then think I am a nut because she brings home straight A's except for a B in Math. But, I guess after a rough start you always worry more and wonder if it (the infant illness) is still lurking somewhere to wreak havoc on your life again.

11/13/08 08:40 PM #909    

Gwen Norman (Martin)

Wow, I am talking to myself and loving it. This is very therapeutic. We had to take my youngest to the Dr. today. We have to have an upper GI, abdominal X-ray and maybe a CT scan. The Dr. had the same look on his face as when we had to go to the cardiologist due to high blood pressure for the oldest. He has had to come home from school 3 times in the last 5 school days for spitting up. I am really worried and hope I am worrying for nothing.

11/13/08 08:44 PM #910    

April Passen (Ochman)

I went to my premies first parent teacher conference.. It's confirmed...I've over spoiled the lazy brat! Only applys himself when he wants, has to be in the mood to be good, other then that he wants to act like he is Wolverine out of the Video game...Famous line "You think you wanna a piece of me, Bub?" Wow what a proud mother I am. My oldest who required nothing of me, Honor roll student, teachers pet. The one I tried my damnist to make sure he had everything he needed, double checked w/doc about Autism, because he learned everything late...And it's all cuz my ass over worried & babied him. I future thug.

11/13/08 08:46 PM #911    

April Passen (Ochman)

Kids will be the death of us Gwen! Worry, Worry...spoil, spoil...I need to be the one going to camp next time..ROFL

11/13/08 08:48 PM #912    

April Passen (Ochman)

Ooh ooh...Question....

What is worse talking to yourself, or typing to yourself?


I do the same thing Gwen, free therapy, but it's kinda an oximoron...now I have an addiction to this free therapy.

11/13/08 08:50 PM #913    

Gwen Norman (Martin)

I think all 3 of my kids are S.A.B (spoiled ass brats) My oldest is 18 and he has had to get a job--He came home tonight and said " I don't like this working crap I'm tired" I laughed at him. He is on a fricking honors scholarship and had to drop 1 class and will be lucky to get a B in one of the others. I would love to whup him but he is too big

11/13/08 08:50 PM #914    

April Passen (Ochman)

Well I'm off...gotta go put the shitlings to bed, so I can watch My name is Earl w/hubby...thank gosh for DVR!

11/13/08 08:51 PM #915    

Gwen Norman (Martin)

April if I come to Michigan---Do ya wanna go chicken farming with me? It's been a long time but I think I could still do it :-)

11/14/08 12:50 AM #916    

Tara Wismar (Nickell)

Gwen,
not sure what you meant by EI, if you mean the monitors and oxygen, then I had no problems at all, the hospital set it all up and Home Care delivered new leads and oxygen every week. If you mean early intervention, we were never offered that, guess we were very lucky that with a 1 pound 3 pounce baby that the doctors did not think he needed that, or I am sure they would have made sure he had it. We were also lucky that we have excellent insurance and we did not have to pay a dime for anyhting. I always say he is only about 160,000 dollars shy of being a million dollar baby. His incubator was almsot 2 grand a day, but as he moved pod to pod the parice came down a bit. The nursing was even itemized. I saved all the papers from Blue Cross so wecan show him one day. But, John did good as far as the physical part of "preemi-hood" went. He was about 4 or 5 months behind for crawling, walking, etc... The only thing we walked out with was glasses, and they are not even because he was a preemie, one eye was just startng to be a liitle lazy, we did not notice it but the when he was is for a regular eye appt. the doctor did. It is fine now and he is just tad nearsighted. He did have ROP, but that went away before he came home from the NICU. We are very glad to take the glasses and run and never looked back at the problems a 24 week preemie could have. We held our breath until he was 2, because of the CP thing and preemies. Although the doctors told us that when a child does have CP you usually do not see the signs until around 18 or 24 months. Being pregant was very hard for us, with John being so early and losing our middle daughter, Emily and with Ryann, that terrible quad screen cam back high for Down Syndrome. We once again were terrified and after waitng 2 weeks for our amnio results we were able to sit and enjoy the rest of the pregancy. Well, I did, my husband worried constantly. Every visit (we had an ultrasound and a visit once a week after 2o weeks) he asked the doctors if the amnio results could change, they had to tell him every time, NO! How early was your daughter? How long was she in the NICU?


11/14/08 01:22 PM #917    

April Passen (Ochman)

Went for a job interview, anyone miss me? Looks like probably not...nobody ever seems to be here during the early day anymore.

11/14/08 02:08 PM #918    

April Passen (Ochman)

Chicken farming? Maybe I'm slow not sure what that means. But I am always up for some adult interaction!

11/14/08 02:09 PM #919    

April Passen (Ochman)

Oh duh...do you mean egging...ROFL I am so dumb.

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