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After I graduated I went to Cal and got B.A. in history. I then spent four years in the Marine Corps. While going through Basic School at Quantico, VA I meet my wife, Patricia, who was going to Mary Washington just south of Quantico. I was trained as a Combat Engineer at Camp Lejeune and later as a Psychological Operation Officer at Fort Bragg. I went to Vietnam and served in both of those capacities. After the Marine Corps I went to seminary and over time I got an M.A. in Church History and Master of Divinity, and later a Doctor of Ministry. We have served churches in California, Colorado, Louisiana and now in Texas. We have three daughters and seven grandchildren- five girls and two boys.