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Margaret Lee-Thomas (Cason)

I must clarify my previous post. The statement that Steve quoted from me was actually made by my grandmother before I was born. She was the only one from a family of seven living, and it was up to her to continue the work. I sadly must confess that I have been very lax in doing geneology work until the last couple of years. I know for a fact that when we actually delve into our own ancestors and learn more about our heritage it is so easy to get caught up in the work and truly begin to know and embrace our own history. An excellent example of this is the story that I posted a few weeks ago in the message forum that was published in the Ogden Standard Examiner, where my Great grandmother, Elizabeth Ann Hardy Jones was interviewed and tells her opinion regarding the shameful and immodest dress of that period. The article was in the news paper in 1930 when she was 86 years old. She died at 93 years of age in 1946.

Several years ago I was blessed to be in England riding through the country side in the very area where my own ancestors were born, lived and died. It was especially thrilling to be there to see and experience what life was like as far back as my family history has been recorded in the 1400's.

07/07/15 05:26 PM

#254

I must say that I've been a "stalker" of this forum for a long time. Now that Family History has come up, it's time for at least one comment and maybe more as time goes on. I have been very involved in F H for several years and have many great experiences that have blessed my life beyond measure. You all might find this story interesting because of the Lee-Thomas surname that embarresed me for years, but now have a greater appreciation for.

My paternal grandfather was born as Thomas Henry Lee in Victoria, Australia. His Australian army enlistment papers for WW1 are filled out and signed as Henry Lee-Thomas. Also, his marriage record to my grandmother states, Henry Lee-Thomas. So somewhere along the line he changed his name. None of the family who work on this line have found any legal mention of this name change. From there on back back the surname is Lee.

My only brother has one son, who at age 36, just has his first boy. So, there's a chance the LEE-Thomas will go on.

Because of my FH work, I have visited all over Australia and met many of my Aussie relatives. Some have come here to visit as well. The story of getting in touch with them is amazing. I will share another time. My paternal line goes to Australia and then to England on both lines. One of my maternal lines goes there as well. I just did an Ancestry DNA test and am 63% British. Fun to do. I love hearing FH stories. Thanks for sharing!

07/08/15 07:03 AM

#255

Steven Nielsen

Mary, I agree with Dan on the sophisticated ring your name has but I remember you as Mary-Margaret Lee-Thomas back at Mound Fort and by the way; I remember Dan Hutchison as Danny and Pete Belliston as Peter Lester Belliston. We called Karen Petersen Belliston, Theresa (because that's what her name was in Ms. Zimmerman's class) --- Sometimes my older brother Monty called me mud, but that's another story. -- On nicknames we used to call Robert Porter, the man of steel, Steve Rawson the gentleman, and Dale Hartley ... well Dale was known as fearless, and he was on the football field. (I miss Robert, Steve and Dale). Just rambling here this morning...

07/08/15 11:36 PM

#256

Donna Harbertson (Persinger)

Hi Everyone!! Everyone is increasing in number which is great. I just deleted a jillion messages from my e-mail account on my computer. I have been regularly on my Ipad, and assumed I was up to date, but approx. 300 emails later, I found out they are not keeping up with each other. Anyway, found out while deleting about 9th grade pictures from Mound Fort being put on our class web page. Thanks, Bellistons!! Look under photos on the home page, per Pete, and you will be taken way back in time. I could not remember who my homeroom teacher was, Mr. Hall, so I perused many pictures and it brought back many memories. I must say that I think we have all improved in looks since the 9th grade. Well, maybe some of us have past our prime, but we keep on plugging along. Remember the donut shop for one and old Weber High school just down from the donut shop, Across the street from Weber High was the first McDonalds. Remember the tall trees in front of the school, a bad memory, at least then, funny now. I had spent the morning perfecting my hair, which was never one of my talents, still isn't, and after departing the bus, was standing under the trees one wintery morning conversing with friends whom I hadn't seen since the previous afternoon. Well, while catching up, for some reason, maybe all the chatter of our voices, a huge amount of snow fell from the trees above, and it fell on my beautiful hair. Well, that is how I remember it, and needless to say, my hair was not the same for the rest of the day. All that time and hairspray was for not. Do any of you girls remember that the length of our dresses or skirts had to touch the floor when kneeling, and if it was suspected that there was a violation, the violator had to kneel on said floor to prove she was not breaking the law of the dress code? Do you rember the starchy slips we girls under wore under our dresses and how puffy and crunchy they were? First period sitting at our desks took some effort to get our skirts under our desks. Remember when there was a football game, we had to take pants to school to change into if we were going to the game. It is nice to be more casual now, but I do think it has gone too far because of how some of the people, youth and adults alike, dress. Just my opinion, but at funerals, viewings, weddings, I have seen some pretty sloppy looking people. If you look at really old pictures, even at picnics, the people were dressed like going to church. I think some people should have a little more pride in how they present themselves. Enough on that subject. Any other Mound Fort memories? I must tell Steve, that I have read two of his books, and enjoyed both. I am proud or you. But you have put me to shame and I find that I am almost three behind. I guess I will have to do some catching up. I think we have an amazing graduating class, so many accomplished people who have gone on to live very diverse lives and live in many places. What fun to read about each of us. Well, Joy, I worry about the water situation in CA, especially since finding out so many fellow classmates live there. Just read where the water rates are really going up in many areas in CA. We actually got some rain today, which was a good thing. It is thundering outside right now, but don't know how much rain if any we will be getting. Well, I went to my speech therapist today, and she added more ways to strenghen my throat muscles. I don't think it is working. I am now scheduled in August to have and injection of collagen or something similar put into my shrunken vocal cord so they can meet again in the middle hoping it will improve and strengthen my voice which is now raspy and very soft so that many people cannot hear me or maybe they just ignore me. Hope it isn't the latter. When I have this done I am not to speak for 3 days. My husband may enjoy it, but I find that it is something I am not looking forward to doing or trying to do. I told Charlie that when I am mad at him I will write in all CAPS so he will know I really mean what I am not saying. Anyway, you know women have their lips injected with collagen, their wrinkles erased with collagen, etc., etc. so they will be looking younger and more beautiful. Do you know that when I get a collagen treatment no one will notice the improvement in my looks even when I smile. Just not fair!! They found some nodules in my thyroid and so did a tissue biopsy today, to make sure it isn't cancer which I sure it is not. Just covering all the bases. Did you know that about 40% of us have nodules and don't know it. I am one of the few 40% who do know it. How lucky is that. Anyway sticking a needle through your neck into your thyroid is not that bad. I bet some of you have had that done. The continuing saga of getting older. But I am excited because next week on the 15th, Charlie and I will be heading back East to go on a Church History tour. We will fly to Boston and head north from there to Niagra Falls, Palmyra, Susqehanna River, and on and on by bus all the way back to Utah. We haven't ever been to Nauvoo and any of the places the pioneers have traveled. We will get to do a session in the Nauvoo Temple. And we were challenged to have pioneer stories if we come from pioneer stock. I just happen to come from pioneer stock on both sides of my parents. What a segue into geneology, pretty tricky!!. I just found out and am passing on to you who may not know it, this little tidbit. If you are a patron of Family Search, sign in and then go to google and type in Pioneer Ancestors. If you have a pioneer lineage it will pull up names of your ancestors and the pioneer companies they came across the plains with. I had eleven and one that came across twice. It tells you your relative, what company they came with, trail experinces (stories if any) and how they are related to you. You can look them up with their Family Search ID number. That was actually my intention when I sat down at my computer, but the Forum waylaid me, so here I am. Now my next tip, I did this when I had a family dinner with my kids, and grandkids and my brother and his kids and grandkids. I told them to each bring a memory about Mike and I's parents, their grandma and grandpa. I asked them to write it down, some did and some didn't. Our grandchildren did not know our parents because they died when they were very young or before they were born. We sat around the dinner table and related stories about mom and dad. I made the ones who hadn't written anything do so and they sent it to me. My kids and my niece and nephew were able to tell the grandkids about their great grandparents, and I have storeis from each of them so they are forever memories. We laughed, shed tears, and we all went home feeling like it had been a special evening. They all called me and said how much they had enjoyed it. Try it sometime, you might like it. Donna

07/09/15 11:28 AM

#257

Good morning everyone, as I sit here wasting time before I go to a class on controlling my colesterol I thought this would be a good time to make a few comments on Donna's interesting post. When that McDonalds was first opened across the street from Weber High, there were no girls working there. My cousin Viron Toponce was at work one night when my friend and I left MIA at the time the activity started (Learning to swing dance because the TWIST was too vulgar) we went to McDonalds to see the guys that were working. Oh my what fun! Then we had to walk home clear up on 6th street above Harrison.

Donna I agree with you about the casual dress of today. I wish there was just a little more effort put into looking good. You might want to read the news paper article where I quoted my great grandmother about clothing standards in the 1930's. I entered it last month on June 22, number 363 entry.

Now about Nauvoo, you will love it. I just hope you have plenty of time to see it completely. Since my sister lives about a 3-4 hour drive from there I have seen it evolve from the pre-garden and Temple to the beautiful city it is now. The first time I went there my little boy was just one year old. He will be 37 in a couple of days. The statues honoring women had just been erected and the trees were about 2 feet high. When we go there now the trees are full grown and the whole garden is quite lovely. While I was on my mission, one of the events we planned and organized was a trip to the Nauvoo temple. There were about 35 people who went, some for the first time and some went on a regular basis. I was there just a year ago with, of course my sister and my long time friend who had never been there before. Donna. Have a fantastic trip. JOY

07/09/15 06:32 PM

#258

Does anyone besides me remember going to Kindergarden in a house on 12th St., Just east of the shop building. That was the famous winter of '49 when it snowed so much. We had a snow tunnel coming out our back door and walking to school was an interesting experience.

07/09/15 07:22 PM

#259

Dana Fuhriman (Austin)

Todd, I do. Our kindergarten teacher had horned rimmed glasses and kind of a Dutch boy hair cut which was dark brown. It seems like her name was Mrs. Monroe, or something like that. The house had a big front porch.

Dana Fuhriman Austin

07/09/15 10:03 PM

#260

aaaah! Dana Fuhriman! The object of first boyhood crush. 1952-53, Gramercy School. You were so damn cute when you were 8 yrs old!

07/10/15 06:54 AM

#261

Steven Nielsen

We had all of our grandchildren (13) here for a few days & through the 4th of July and it was great! I've never cooked so much in my life! All of the children are healthy but three have autism in varying degrees. One is a genius in reading and math and putting together complicated leggo toys without using the instructions, but severly limited in human relation skills. His name is Joshua and he just turned 12. I love him dearly. He's a very kind little boy and has a tiny little voice so I have to get real close and concentrate hard to understand him. Another grandchild is a little blonde girl who loves to twirl and spin like a ballerina. I'm told Autism now effects one male child out of every 40 born world wide. The mothers of my Autistic grandchildren treat them as being perfectly normal and getting good results... so far, Medical science is baffled by this pervasive malady; Personally I think the plague has been brought on by decades of people consuming nutritionless foods loaded with preservatives??? I'd be interested to read other classmates' experiences with autism...

07/13/15 12:57 PM

#262

Dan, HA! What a laugh, Man, did you ever bring back some of my childhood memories, for instance all those cowboys you mentioned. When I was about 9 years old, there was a girl, Irene, who lived across the street from me. She had leukemia, so arrangements were mad to have her favorite cowboy come to see her. We were NOT allowed to go over to Gene Autry when he rode up on his white horse and gave her a ride up and down the street. We were allowed to watch from the curb on my side of the street. He gave her a ride and sang some of his famous tunes to her. That was one of the last things that were done for her just before she died at only 12 years old. When I was a little older we went down to Salt Lake to visit some friends. With my little brother, sister, all of the friends and myself there were about 9 of us that rode the bus downtown to the T.V. station. There was a cartoon show on and (i'm not sure but I think) Buffalo Bob and Clarabell were there or someone else. All of us kids got to be on T.V. advertising "Family Bread". We said how delicious it was, and for our efforts each FAMILY received a loaf of bread. Wahoo! Now for the Roy Rogers story. He had a ranch in Apply Valley CA. My family, friends and I went down there one time. He was there in his museum. He held my little boy (about 9 month old) and I have pictures of my daughter Sherrie, husband, (now gone) and Roy Rogers holding my son Rob. It was quite a day for all of us. Oh how I do remember the hop scotch and marbles, what fun. I never had a pair of skates, only one skate, because my sister Nadine, had the other one. I never did learn to skate with two skates. Another one of my fondest memories was when all of the girls in the neighborhood would play with our dolls under the lilac bushes (trees) along side of our house. We were always getting them ready for our trip to Hawaii. I actually have been able to go over twice for real as an adult. Lastly, My Dad owned a gas station on Washington Blvd, by the big Ogden sign, and would bring home Soda from there once in a while. We would take one of the emptys down to Payne's market and cash it in for enough to buy a couple of our favorite candies, YUMM! Dan, that brings up the candy you would buy at the movies, Good & Plenty are the very best. Have a great day and hugs to you too. JOY

07/13/15 10:13 PM

#263

There was also Ogden Theater on 25th just above Washington, We snuck in there one time only to find the movie was in Spanish! The Opheum was next to the Ben Lomond Hotel. I don't believe they had kid's shows; I don't think I went there till I started dating.

I can remember the smell as you walked out of the theater after a matinee. There was a very distinctive odor about downtown Ogden in the '50s. Walking home from the movie we would stop at a confectionery called "The Banner" just south of the river. They had frosted mugs of root beer that seemed HUGE for 5¢.

When I began dating, I remember standing in a line at the Egyptian that would sometimes stretch clear down to Samuel's or Keeley's Cafe.

My camera store, Alpha Photo-Technical, was directly across from the Egyptian in the store that was formerly Swanson's Shoes. It's now a tattoo parlor

I loved Gene Autry! I had several of his records when records were 78 rpm. I still have some. I was heartbroken when I learned Gene Autry wasn't a "real" cowboy. That was worse than learning there was no Santa Claus.

07/14/15 10:25 AM

#264

Janet Harris (Eller)

Joy, your story about sharing a pair of roller skates with your sister made me laugh out loud. I suppose you two never argued about sharing the pair and taking turns? I did love roller skating and when I was a teenager, I would go on Saturday mornings sometimes to the Berthana Ballroom. I think it was upstairs on 24th street. Did anyone go there? On Saturday evenings there was ballroom dancing for the adults. My parents went there sometimes with their friends.

Since I lived at Washington Terrace until I was 10, I would sometimes go to the Country Club theater because it was within walking distance. It was on 40th & Washington Blvd. just opposite the golf course. Maybe Donna remembers it. My favorite candy was and still is Walnettos. I have discovered that you can still buy those old fashioned candies at the Vermont Country Store so from time to time I go there and buy a one pound bag of Walnettos and try to make it last for as long as possible. Just google the Vermont Country Store and you can order some of those oldies. The store is in Weston, VT and is full of stuff you would never find anyplace else.

We moved from Washington Terrace when I was 10 because by then, there were 7 of us kids plus my parents in a one level house which was about 18x24 feet - snug. We lived on Dan Street which was a short street west of Washington Blvd, just below the Industrial School (for unruly boys and a few girls). So that's how I got to know all of you who went to Lincoln Elementary and Mound Fort.

07/15/15 06:43 PM

#265

I was only in the Berthana a few times, because of my skating challenge. My older sister used to go there all the time, I thought she was a fantastic figure skater. She says "not so much". That is where she met her husband when she was just 16 years old, that was 60 years ago and they are still married.

Every year, when all the men and boys would go deer hunting, my mother would take us girls, out to eat at "Park-N-Snack on Washington Blvd. then to the movie at the Country Club theatre. We were so glad to see them go so we could go out and we also would go shopping down to Salt Lake. Of course we would go to Harmons in Salt Lake while we were there. Sometime I'll tell you about my little brother's first experience with deer hunting.

07/23/15 12:39 PM

#266

Dan: I bet you have it all figured out which way thr toilet paper comes off the roll as well.

07/23/15 07:25 PM

#267

Dan, I always thought that's how towls were supposed to be folded. I have always been acused of being a neat-freak, however, NO POINTED TP for me. In fact I never thought about the right or wrong way to have it unroll until my sister, when she was visiting out here about two years ago asked me which way I roll it. I told her I never thought about it before. Well as it turned out it is much better in one bathroom to roll it over and in the other bathroom, because it hangs so high to roll it under. NOW; I am paranoid about that too. Dishes and silver, since I went on a mission a few years ago , I have given away so much stuff that one could furnish a new Bed, Bath, and Beyond store. I don't miss any of it. I truly enjoy giving my surplus away to a loving home when ever I see a need. I really needed this light hearted chat.

07/26/15 07:15 PM

#268

Hi gang. My computer is dead, so I am having to use this iPad. What a pain...... The worst thing about it is I will have to get someone, like my daughter to hook up a new one after I decide what to get. Any suggestions? thank goodness I have most of my important stuff on flash drives. Maybe this old piece of junk will start up one more time so I can get the rest of my precious stuff saved. Also I will have to learn updated programs and operating systems too. Wa-wa-wa!

07/26/15 08:03 PM

#269

Joy: I had to purchased a new computer last year. Everything I looked at came with Windows 8. I hated it! I found out everyone else hates it too. I backdated to Windows 7 Pro. Much Better!!! Windows 10 will be released on 7/29. I've heard good things about it. There is a website: www.tigerdirect.com that has some pretty good deals and they sell you a new computer with Wndows 7 installed.

07/27/15 10:13 AM

#270

Thanks Tod, I will definitely look into. It. I have heard about windows 8 being difficult. I will wait until the 29th. I have also heard windows 10 is much more user friendly. Joy

07/27/15 11:07 AM

#271

Jopy,

I agreer with Tod. Windows 7 is far better. I have also heard good things about Windodws 10 but there wil be a big learning curve. If you can, wait until 10 is realeased to get the skinny on whether it is good or not.

Martie

07/27/15 07:59 PM

#272

Yes Dan, I want to hear all bout Cyprus. Also after four days of trying to turn on my computer, here I am one more time. The grand kids were here all day and they went home a couple of hours ago so I have been saving everything I want to keep, on a flash drive. So when this piece of junk poops outagain I will be OK! I am going to start my search on Wednesday. No (man, I've got two completely different subjects running together. What a mess. It's because I have spent the whole day with 13, 11, and 9 year old grand kids. It reminds me of a poem that I used to recite to the residents at my work when we had a Kids day. It goes:

I've seen the lights of Paris,

I've seen the lights of Roam,

I've seen the lights all over the world

But none are as beautiful as the tail lights of my Daughter's car

as she takes the grand-kids home.

And that's the whole truth.

JOY

07/28/15 10:30 AM

#273

Joy,

As you know I am still working in High Tech and use Wndows 7 pro. I use the Seagate Backup Slim Plus backup hard drive. I also have Just Cloud. For business I was advised to have two back up systems.

Martie

07/29/15 01:37 PM

#274

Dan, your experiences are fascinating to read about. It seems to me that it would have been very unsettling and exciting to be there during all of the turmoil. I am going to keep my comments short because I haven't even begun to shop for a new computer.

Last night I went for a ride with some real hotties... I felt great until about 7:00pm then My heart was pounding, short breathing, sweating profusely, tremors, and slightly nuts. The guys were EMTS and they took me in their ambulance to the ER. I had an EKG plus other tests. My blood sugar was extremely low. After several hours my BS was returning to normal. So today I am going to just lay low, and start my computer search tomorrow or the next day. I was so glad that my daughter and son-in-law came and gave me moral support and a ride home.

07/29/15 02:57 PM

#275

Joy,

I am so sorry to hear about your trip with EMT's. I am glad you are feeling better.

My tech guy said not to download Windows 10 until they get all the kinks out. Should take a couple or so weeks.

Looking forward to lunch next Wednesday.

Martie

07/29/15 03:21 PM

#276