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07/26/13 09:27 AM #111    

 

Stephen Leuchtman

Re: Kratz.  I once met Phil Coke, who is a very nice guy with a great sense of humor.  It is not for lack of effort or moral fiber that he struggles so hard to get opposing batters out.  It isn't Coke's fault that he isn't Max Scherzer.  I resented Kratz for many years; and I have only lately come to realize that it was mainly because he wasn't Bob Parks.  That said, though, there are still a couple of things that happended with him that stick in my craw.  But there is no need to share them here.  Jerry Kratz was an entertaining guy, sometimes intentionally.  He was a very good teacher, if not of track.  Jerry was at heart a politician, who rose in educational administration because he knew how to play the game.  When he died, he was a 69-year old rookie State Legislator.  That takes some energy and savvy.  And Bob is right about his  sense of humor.

Len, I remember well the incident with the gym divider wall.  I uncorked a throw three or four feet farther than I had ever thrown in practice.  Just as I was thinking Wow! the shot crashed into the divider, putting a big hole in it.  Gordie Young wasn't usually around that late in the afternoon when it wasn't football season, but he was that day, and he came out of the little office just inside the locker room.  I was indeed speechless for a while but finally came up with the phrase kids (usually younger than HS seniors) muster in similar situations: "I'll pay for it."  Young just smiled, shaking his head, and said, "Don't worry about it.  Done is done."  I said, "Well, I'm really sorry."  He said, "I know."  And that was that.  I always appreciated his understanding approach to my totally boneheaded act.


07/26/13 10:05 AM #112    

 

William Cox

Thanks Guys, for filling me in.

To Steve;  Thanks for the time line, I always thought Mr. Kratz was just filling in as track coach.  Mr. Parks must have been a hard act to follow.  Actually, Mr. Kratz, was a pretty good at abstract art.  Senior year, final project, he gives us two weeks to complete the final assignment,  I got serious [ a major issue, for me at the time]  finishrd the project in 1.5 days.  Got a great grade, then proceeded to be bored to death, & slightly disruptive, [ who could imagine]???  The next day he comes to class w/ a handful of brushes, & a 3'x5' mounted canvas.  As everybody was working on their projects, he takes me aside, OK CX, [ What he called me]?  let's see what you've got??? He hands me a list of paints & colors, & sends me off to the store....................during class,..... I remember walking past Mr. Blocks office waving my note as I proceeded on my mission.  Long story short, the following 1.5 wks. untill the end of school, we collaborated on a very large asbstract painting, my first...............which still hangs in my "ManCave" today.

To Len;  Thanks for your thoughts & insight,  It's been fun to reconnect & reflect.....................

To Bob S.;  A little personal insight, I was kinda quite about the fact that my father, Bill Sr. had passed away the winter of our junior year.  I was 15yrs. he was 42.  His passing broke my heart, & my spirit, for awhile.  I was the oldest male in the household of 5.  Throughout my intire adult life, I've embraced the concept of  "You are what you do".  I pledged an oath to myself, if I was ever so lucky to have a beautiful family like his, to the best of my ablity, that I would never leave them as he did,  So keeping myself in good physical condition has always been a priority.......................It seems the older I get, the harder this goal is to maintain, but I still joust at the windmill.................and besides, training for triathlons, requires that you have a great bike!!!!

Many thanks to all, for your input....................................


07/26/13 08:05 PM #113    

 

Leonard Capelli

Thanks Bill, I am enjoying this forum a lot. I wish more people joined in. Ask Bob to post a picture. It appears to be Bob, you, me and Carl Fox. We look to be freshmen at best. I am holding the one (1) smelt we caught. I remember the trip. What a great picture. 


07/26/13 11:58 PM #114    

 

Daniel Orlikowski

Steve, I noticed you've morphed from Nolte back to Leuchtman. What's up with that?


07/27/13 10:37 AM #115    

 

Stephen Leuchtman

I ususally use the Nolte pic when describing one of the many dumb, misguided, boneheaded---pick your adjective---things I did in HS.  Then I get tired of looking at it and switch back to the pic you now see.  I'm sure Nick will be back.  The problem is that if you switch the master photo, it affects all of your past posts.  I'd like to leave Nick on things like when I hit the guy in the Big Boy parking lot and Serious Steve when I'm talking about Parks or Knotts, but it doesn't work that way.


07/27/13 04:55 PM #116    

 

Robert Nakoneczny

Double Dog Dare you to click on the link below and remember all the simple things and good times!

 

http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/aceaxe11-1642850-nostalgia-double-dog-dare/

 

Enjoy!


07/29/13 08:33 AM #117    

 

Leonard Capelli

Good one Bob! Thanks for sharing. 


07/29/13 11:11 AM #118    

 

William Cox

To Bob Nak.

You never write, you never call, I would like to see the picts. you mentioned, when you get the time.  Great to here from you..................

 

To Steve, Every time I viewed your Nolte profile pict. made me chuckle.  I've got a closet full of those dumb ass flowered shirts.  I wear them all the time in the summer, much to my families dismay.  I even wear them to meetings on Fridays [ casual day ] Kinda become my signature statment.  It seems as I've matured, I find it easier to laugh at myself, & when I do, others laugh right along with me!!!   Great to hear from you guys,  Why do you think the women of our class are just reading, & not writing??????


07/30/13 12:23 PM #119    

 

Stephen Leuchtman

Bill, I have a bunch of those beauties also.  My wife likes one of them, the others not so much.  I used to wear them to Saturday partners' meetings when I was with a big firm.  Now that I'm self-employed, I wear 'em whenever I want.  Like you, I'm at a point in my life where I don't care much whether people are laughing with me or at me as long as I'm enjoying myself.

My wife, who came to Michigan from Kansas in her 40s, enjoys the posts on the Message Forum.  I asked her why she thought women are mostly spectating.  She thinks it's because we men are uninhibited about telling embarrassing stories on ourselves; and women, who are a more dignified species, are less inclined to do so.  Lord knows I've shared enough embarrassment so far, and there's probably more to come.

Bob N, not to be the Grinch, but my father had a great description of the nostalgic times people pine for:  The Good Ol' Days that Never Were.  I know you didn't write the nostalgia piece you sent, so this is not aimed at you personally.  But if you don't mind, I'll watch ballgames and 3-D movies with my grandkids on my 56" LG HD, and the nostalgia freaks can pine for the 21" B&W that had 4 channels, took 3 minutes to warm up, and cost as much compared to a week's earnings as my TV.  Ditto the World Book versus a smart phone you can give a verbal request to and have any information you want in a nanosecond.

But all of that is just Old Fart Steve complaining---and it pales in comparison to the thought expressed in the piece that in the 50s, the "race issue" consisted of nothing more than kids arguing about who could run faster.  Are you freakin' kidding me!?!  I'm one of the least politically correct guys I know; but that "remembrance" absolutely blew me away.  To paraphrase what Jim Wooll said in his Profile a couple months ago, maybe there was no race issue in the cocoon we lived in, but I guarandamntee you there was one two miles away in Detroit.  If you were ever in the locker room with the black Detroit guys in Brennan Pools on Plymouth Road in the Rouge complex, you could cut the tension with a knife---and I promise you the source of the discomfort wasn't about who could swim faster in a race.  But as Dennis Miller says, that's just my opinion.  I could be wrong.


07/30/13 05:59 PM #120    

 

Daniel Orlikowski

Glad to see Nolte is back Stephen...with a flowered shirt no less....only it's the cute Nolte this time. Not that the real Leuchtman isn't cute but I'm just sayin'....

And Bill C. , Why do people ridicule those Hawaiian shirts? I think everyone I know has them and yet they're treated like dirt!  Is it an "OLD" thing?  Maybe we should all wear them to the reunion. Hmmm.... maybe not.

And Bob and Steve, I guess every generation has it's good ol' days when life was slower and less complicated but we didn't think so back then did we? I know your Dad's Rambler wasn't slow was it Steve?  Always nice to reminisce though. That's what reunions are for.

I do think all this bantering back and forth is a lot of fun though and wish more folks would butt in among the few of us who are hogging all the space.


07/30/13 06:40 PM #121    

 

Stephen Leuchtman

Dan-O, I know my memory isn't what it used to be, but no one ever accused me of being cute, or that Rambler of being fast.  I'm just sayin'.  By the way, I have learned that you can deal with pretty much any verbal jam you get into by saying either "I'm just sayin'," or "There ya' go."

I looked back to the beginning of the Message Forum and saw that at first, the contributors were mainly women, but then we blowhards drowned 'em out.  I wish the women would come back.  If I thought I could keep the promise, I'd promise not to hog the Forum so much.  But there ya' go.


07/31/13 10:11 AM #122    

 

William Cox

To Steve;  What a darling grandson, you must be very proud.  He should go after his grandpa's shot put record............he looks like he's got the right attitude.   Sooo cute.

To Dan;  Not a bad shirt idea, I might bring one of mine along just incase we want to hang, maybe get a shirt group together???...........I get most of my  shirt grief from my family.  My son and daughter-inlaw are both left brained  engineers for Ford Mo. Co.  living in China.  Where everybody wears black, white, or shades of grey.  I make it a point to hall them out while they're here visiting.....................for the esthetic shock value........................


07/31/13 10:53 PM #123    

 

Daniel Orlikowski

Hey Bill, I think Steve answered your question on why the women aren't joinig in the forum. They can't get a word in edgewise with with all of us blowhards yapping away everyday. We're hogging the whole thing. This is fun you guys. But yes, we could use a little female input couldn't we?  I'm just sayin'...


08/01/13 11:19 AM #124    

 

Stephen Leuchtman

That kid is my heart, Bill.  Between me and my wife, we have 21 grandkids, but Donovan is the only one who lives within 180 miles.  He's 7, a great age; and he lives about 15 minutes from us in White Lake, so we get him for a lot of overnights and weekends.  His mom, Jessica, is Jac's youngest, and I'm especially close with her.  Jacque and I raised Jess and her two sisters together from the time she was 11, and I gave her away at her wedding.  About three years after Donovan was born, Jessica discovered during her next pregnancy that she had cervical cancer; so she lost the baby and the ability to have kids.  This made Donovan a permanent only child, a bond he and I share.  The kid is real smart, and funny as hell.  He does sometimes have that sorehead edge that would make him a great shotputter or wrestler.


08/07/13 02:10 PM #125    

 

Robert Stockton

It’s August, still summer, and already the radio and TV talking heads are trying to get us pumped about football.

As a kid, I was crazy about football. I can remember listening to U of M games on the radio before we had a television. This time of year all the neighborhood kids would switch from baseball to football and we would be out playing all day in a vacant lot. Much different today, whenever I happen to be in a suburban area, I hardly ever see kids out playing anything. It’s kind of sad and their loss.

My first taste of organized ball was in the eighth grade when Len Capelli and I played for our church CYO team. The team consisted of only twelve kids so we got to play a lot and it was a great experience.

I remember in August before Freshman year worrying about the upcoming week of two-a-day practices that started the preseason.  Would I be able to cut it? This was high school, the “Big Time.” I even had to get a physical and unlike CYO, I would be going up against older guys, seventeen, eighteen, almost grown men, kind of scary for a skinny thirteen year old with no idea what to expect..

In order to get to practice, Len and I had to walk. Over in the morning, back for lunch, over in the afternoon, and home after the second round of fun. For me, it was about a mile and a half each way, for Len closer to two miles. Each of those sessions that year was an ordeal I thought would never end.  But I wanted to play and was willing to try to pay the price. It was a time of shared misery. I met Bill Cox sometime that week, when we carried in a tackling dummy after a long day was over.  I knew Jerry Wiebeck from junior high, but Joe Halonen was new to me along with others that would become friends, cemented together, at least for a time, by the experience.

It was easier after that first year. I knew I could make it and my desire to play never diminished. By Junior year some of the guys had access to cars so I didn’t have to walk every day. Before Senior year, I was already a little saddened knowing a high school chapter was coming to an end, but I still dreaded the start of those two-a-days.

Something any guy that played those years will remember is wind sprints. Coach Young got the nick name “Goal Line Gordie” from his habit of standing on the goal line, blowing his whistle to start each sprint and he certainly earned that name. I’ve often wondered how many whistles he wore out. To make it through his longer sessions I tried to put my mind in a happier place and it usually worked, though I won’t share where I went. I tried counting, but on bad days, somewhere after forty it would all get blurry.

Coach Young had a gadget play designed for right after we received a kick-off. We tried it once each year and it never came close to working until our last chance. It was a pass play that resulted in about a seventy yard touchdown, first play from scrimmage. I don’t remember who we were playing. I am pretty sure we won the game.

We were never a championship team, not even close, though I think we won about as many as we lost. The thing is I do believe every player benefitted. While not every guy was a friend, and there were a few I flat out didn’t like, we were a team and we learned to work together, friends or not, a valuable trait to learn for the game of life.

One more comment and I’ll shut up.

I remember watching GAA basketball games, thinking it was unfair that the girls weren’t allowed varsity teams or that they couldn’t play by the same rules. Those half-court rules back then didn’t allow the girls to really play the game and I knew they could.

Fortunately that all changed by the time my daughters were in school. They both played. My older girl, Robin, played everything, basketball, volleyball, track, and softball. In basketball, she played with a reckless abandon and a “take-no-prisoners” attitude, just for the joy of the game, mixing it up every chance she got. Vicki, my youngest, was more ladylike, though she didn’t take any crap from an opponent either. I flatter myself thinking there’s a little of me in both of them.          

By the way, I’m still a football fan. The operative word being fan, I have finally out grown the urge to play.

 

 

  

 


08/07/13 09:06 PM #126    

 

Linda Garcia (Garcia-Shelton)

Well, I can tell you why I am quiet now—my stories of the past are not even close to being as interesting as yours.  … Like the senior class trip; I smoked my first, and only, 2 cigarettes on that trip.  I complained bitterly to my dear friend Barbara Sanderson about my bad luck getting a sore throat while in NYC.  She told me flat out I was being totally stupid, my throat was sore because I was smoking.  I, of course, told her she didn’t know what she was talking about, and I would show her by stopping the cigarettes immediately. Well…you know the end of the story; I got miraculously cured of my sore throat.  See? Not really very funny, and it is one of my better ones.

 


08/08/13 10:15 AM #127    

 

Leonard Capelli

Linda, good for you to jump in with a comment. I know other ladies from the class have humorous and interesting stories. I would like to hear the one about a dachshund and a blind dates trouser cuffs, for one. Or how about lifting the car off of the decorative split rails the next morning?  

I would like to talk about the alternate senior trip the Sportsmans club took, but what happens on the Ausable stays on the Ausable.  Gerry, was it really a bear or a hippo?

 


08/08/13 12:16 PM #128    

 

William Cox

To Leonard;  In the late 70's -early 80's we owned a beautiful cottage [ long story ] on Lake Huron, between East Tawas & Oscoda.  I often crossed & canoed in the Ausable River.  I would remember back to the Sportsman Club days, but could never figure out, or remember just how a bunch of guys from Redford, found their way to that area, I know it wasn't just draw of smelt dipping, ???? I can remember getting two in the net, once!!!!

To Linda;  Nice to hear from you.  I was looking through your Bio, & was thinking, what a wonderful career, then I read further about where you live, to my surprise!.  I spend time in Melborne Fl.  My grand daughter & great grand children live there. My grand daughter is in sales for the Lexus dealship, & we visit often........I have other family in Orlando, Clearwater & Key West...I read further, to see you also reside in Elk Rapids,  Up until a few years ago, we spent the 2nd week of every July at the White Birch Lodge, on the north west side at the rivers mouth, & know that area very well.  Who knows, we might have even crossed paths at Bill's pizza, or at the Thursday night street fairs????  I've had some of my most embarrassing sailing misadventures, on Elk Lake, and often made large contributions to the local economy at the art / gift shops on the north side of main street.  It truly is, a small world we live in........................

To Bob Stockton;   My old friend, what an amazing memory you have..................The summer two a-days, ugh! I remember the late summer humidity was about 200%.  The wind sprints, I alway prayed that "Mr. Goal LIne" would blow that pea,out of his wisthole, I was so green, I'd never been through anything like that, but determined to endure.  If you & Leonard could, so could I, truly a bonding experience.  I lived just east of Beech, north of Schoolcraft.  I'd ride my bike home at noon from practice.  I would collapse in the shade of a large apple tree we had in the backyard. My Grandmother would always have a large pitcher of ice tea waiting for me.  You'all must replace your water, she'd say. being a southern farmers wife that she was. I'd recover under that tree until time to go back, I was sooo tired................On the hottest days, she would sometimes drive me back to afternoon pracftice, which was great,  I can still remember thinking, but never voiced, when we left the practice field, late in the afternoon, while carring off the equipment, the irony of  "what a bunch of dummies, carring dummies" I'd smile to myself, & carry on..............Somehow, you always got the end w/ the handles, I remember that also, Mr. S............................................


08/08/13 03:51 PM #129    

 

Robert Stockton

Len - I wouldn’t mind you writing about our senior trip… as long as you stay away from the truth.

I sure would have liked to have heard Joe explaining to his parents how the moths ate his sleeping bag.

By the way, I thought it was a Rino not a Hippo..

Mr. Bill – I think your estimate of the humidity that first year is too low. Other than that, the rest of your comments are right on. Change a word here and there and it could be my memories. For example, I  remember during the lunch break eating a little, drinking  too much of anything cold, and then collapsing on the front room floor (no convenient apple tree), putting a towel over my head, and hoping it would all just go away.

About the tackling dummies, the end with the handles was lighter too.


08/08/13 04:44 PM #130    

 

William Cox

To Bob S.;  Wish we had spell check here, sorry about the "Whistle" I'm sure you got the point.  And you're right, the end w/ the handles was lighter,............I remember!   


08/09/13 08:35 PM #131    

 

Leonard Capelli

Not many of you will remember the Sportsmans club. It never had more than 20 members and usually about 15. The members liked to hunt, fish, and drink. We had more money our senior year than the junior class. In fact we cut a deal eith the Junior class our senior year. We put up most of the money for them to do the play Oklahoma, for a split of the profits. Another great money maker for us. We had extravagant parties with steaks, potatoe salad and all the pop we could drink. We had so much money we financed our own senior trip. We made over $1,000 at the junior class ca rival with an illegal, but fun gambling Game. Even Mr. block lost $5.00. The game was simple, chances were $0.25 or 5 for a buck. If you could catch a folded dollar, you got to keep it.  As I said, we made over $1,000 in one day and lost about 50 times. 

More to come later. 


08/10/13 07:38 AM #132    

 

Linda Garcia (Garcia-Shelton)

Len, I'm waiting for more.  This has to be one of the biggest stories ever told.

Bill, I've played tennis on the courts at the White Birch Lodge, and its quite likely we unknowingly were there (in greater ER) at the same time.  We first had a place in the ER area in 1992, about 12 miles north on the Bay--a great wild area.  We sold that and moved into town 4 or so years ago, when it was clear the single bear and the wild cats in the woods were not good for our tiny grandkids.  The fun on River Street is still going on, and we survived another Harbor Days carny a week ago.  Send me a message next time you're in Melbourne and we can meet for coffee.

Re: sports, my career as a player of any sport didn't begin until I met my husband, then a former player on the MSU tennis team.  While it was never said, I had the sense that if I was to be able to continue dating him I had better learn to play tennis. Fortunately, he was (and still is) a very patient and excellent tennis teacher and coach.  I played as much as seemed reasonable to me (never really enough for Harold or our 3 tennis-playing sons) but was pretty good at the net.  My most hilarious story was when we were in the finals for an East Lansing mixed doubles tourny, and I was about 6 1/2 months pregnant.  We were playing some good friends of ours who, while serious about winning--tennis wasn't really their game.  I was at the net, Chuck hit a smash near me, I went after it and missed with my racket but it hit me smack in the belly. The sound was like a large water mellon dropping from about roof high.  Chuck turned green; I was fine; we insisted on continuing the match; and the other side just played out the match like they weren't there. We still talk about it when we play against him.


08/11/13 09:20 PM #133    

 

Leonard Capelli

Thanks Linda, if kids today were allowed to go on an unchaperoned trip down the Ausable River for a week,experiencing storms, rapids, portaging, and making their own meals over camp fires and setting up their own tents each night, someone would lose their job. Life was simpler back then. But add in we had probably five cases of beer and several bottles of bourbon and vodka and looking back, someone probably should have lost their job. We took almost 800 dollars with us, over and above the canoe rental and deposit. There are truly some awesome stories and I will share a few .  No names though, unless they want to add to the stories. 

The night I remember best, we had a huge Bon fire and we all, well nearly all were drinking. It got pretty cold, and some of the guys were sleeping around the campfire while others like me opted for a good sleeping bag in the tent. After about an hour of the usual joking around and trash talk, it began to settle down. I heard the call of nature, and came out of the tent wearing bright red insulated underwater with a red Russian style hunting cap. With the sides up, but flopping down a little. 

One of the guys, who was more than half in the bag, saw me and yelled, "The devil is after me..  He jumped up and took off running, scattering hot embers on several of the guys around the fire. Pandemonium broke out. Sleeping bags were smoking, guys were waking from an alcohol induced sleep, a large guy was trying to hide from the devil. Sorry to say, I couldn't stop laughing and almost wet myself before going behind a bush. Nobody was hurt, no real damage was done, but we were lucky, it was only hangovers to nurse the next day. And that was not the most dangerous episode. 


08/16/13 07:38 PM #134    

 

Linda Garcia (Garcia-Shelton)

I want to hear more about the story of the hot air balloon and the school fair--not by a long shot are the best stories making it onto this forum.


08/18/13 07:37 PM #135    

 

Linda Garcia (Garcia-Shelton)

Ahhhh. Now I understand how the moths ate the sleeping bag. It took a closer reading of the text.  About how many of you were on this adventure?  This was, I take it, the alternate senior trip.


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