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10/03/08 02:24 PM #566    

Sean Bowyer

Did someone say lesbian?

Faye. Debate was pretty timid. Thought there would be some real fireworks. Thats the VP role and both came up short. Glad both touched on the quality of our childrens education and are willing to do something about it. So they say.
Next debate. I'd like to see one round of questions, followed by a round of bare knuckle fighting. My money's on Palin in that one.

10/03/08 02:39 PM #567    

 

Faye Sowers (Crute)

Sean yeah it may have been timid but I think Sarah made old Joe look like what he is an Old fart that does nothing but tell untrues and plays the washington game..........I am all about the scraping and after Sarah's performance maybe they will schedule another battle would be interestiing........and I sure would like an Ultimate fighting battle I think she can take him......:)

although for those who missed the debate let me just give you a little indication of how it went?

moderator: Candidate what would you say about the weather?

Both Candidates answered this way: Well I am glad you asked me about the weather.....let me tell you about my new car and how much I like it......

Moderator: Getting back to the weather

Candidates: Love to talk about the weather let me tell you now about my kids...........

get the drift same political bs just best way to avoid topics of dire neeed..........I think both sides told the candidates just avoid anything that is a hot button (AKA anything that truly matters to the average folks and that is us in the real world.....) I think I will handle that with my next rate quote. What is your rate for today? Well I am glad you asked let me get you so confused you forget what you asked.................does that work........:)

10/03/08 03:05 PM #568    

Laura Wolfe (Campbell)

Carla - Smack the intruders over the head with notebooks next time, but for heaven's sake don't let them read the contents!!! I can't believe you still have them. I must now take a moment to take a deep sigh in remembrance of many happy DD stories...............Ok, trip down memory lane done. And don't scare us like that anymore. I'm so glad you all are safe. Had to be a scary time. Brian still works nights and I've never been remotely worried about being home alone at night. I guess I like having the bed to myself a little too much. :-) But now I'm considering letting my killer basset hound sleep with me. I'm sure she would make any intruder belly rub her until they puked! She is the picture of ferocity - NOT!

Kelly - not only do I remember the disastrous Homecoming double date, I actually possess photographic evidence. I shudder to recall in vivid detail the hideous royal blue lace dress, with the matching (yes, matching) royal blue hose and shoes! UGH. Between that dress and the gleam off the braces, I think I blinded everyone in attendance that night. If the guys had been smart, they would have run screaming in the other direction. Don't worry though, I worked with Darin (at Advance Auto if you can believe it!) and he has fully recovered. Tim too, although he lives in Atlanta now!

Your first concert couldn't have been bad. I didn't make it to my first concert until I was 30! But it was a good one - Poison, Cinderella and someone else that I can't remember now. The proudest concerts though were the 3 Duran Duran concerts in one year! Those men just age so beautifully. ..........another deep sigh....

Kristen WB - my daughter is 13 and an 8th grader at Byrd. Girl, I could tell tell you stories. It has been a nightmare, especially last year. Girls are vicious towards each other anyway, but it seems like middle school is ten times worse than it was when we were there. The issues that we dealt with in high school, or at least what I didn't think I needed to worry about until she got to high school, hit last year. I'm hoping high school is a little better and things will mellow out some, but since Byrd has the highest teen pregnancy rate of any of the county high schools,I am already worried. Of course, she still thinks kissing is gross, so maybe we'll be okay!

If you got an easy girl - then you're lucky as girls go. Mine has been dramatic since the moment she was born. Even her delivery was dramatic. It has been all-about-her ever since. I love her to pieces, but every day is a challenge. And the mood-swings - between her and my menopausal mother, I could kill someone!!! With Briana though, any conversation the hubby and I have is interrupted by her saying "Remember the time when I....." We have joked that we are going to get her a t-shirt that says "I love me some me!" . My son, on the other hand, is a pure joy. So laid-back, happy-go-lucky, and always tries to make you laugh. They are so totally opposite that if they didn't look so much like my hubby and/or me I would swear someone was switched at birth. Feel free to email me. I can fill you in on more middle school stuff.

Sean B - is there a problem with crying at commercials? Hmm, I cry at commercials, hallmark cards, movies, tv, etc......the family finds it very entertaining that I get teary-eyed so easily. Oh, and I don't believe for one second that there were no girls at NHS that wanted to go out with you. Oh, gosh - I'm tearing up just thinking about it.... poor you!

10/03/08 04:49 PM #569    

Melissa Weaver (Lynskey)

Kristen...you are right...I am a ghost reader most of the time. But I think that I am one of the few that posts here that has a DAUGHTER in the 12th grade! A senior. I want to start by saying I have a son that is 11 and a daughter that is 17...LOVE THEM BOTH...but I have to say that I would have 10 Cody's to my 1 Brittney. In other words...girls are MUCH harder to raise then boys...at least in my opinion.

Laura...I want to say one thing to you...it doesn't get better when they get to high school.

Girls are ruthless with other girls...they are very vindictive. Wow...some of the things that we have had to deal with in Brittney's world would blow your mind. (Of course you do know that as far as Brittney is concerned, WE live in HER world and we should remember that it is all about her).

Middle School -- about 8th grade is where the boys became VERY interesting to her. She had boys she liked before that but they became a little more serious about liking someone in the 8th grade. But 9th grade is where it was all said and done with her...she starting hanging with 'older' kids from school and it was on from there. I never thought it was such a big deal for her to hang out with older kids but I have learned to regret allowing that to go on.

Brittney is smart, beautiful, wonderful child but we do not always see eye to eye...she calls me a hypocrite most days because she has heard WAY too many stories about my high school years. (I wasn't the best teenager and am paying for it today) I told her just the other day that just because I did it...doesn't make it right!

Kristen...as far as knowing when they have become 'intimate'...well...keep communication open...ask questions...ask questions...keep asking questions...there are things that I know about my daughter that I wish I did not know...but it is better to be aware and being able to give advice and let them know that they need to protect themselves physically and mentally...just try to talk as open as you can with your kids. My mom NEVER mentioned the word sex in my house...it was something we did not talk about at all...but I talk to her and actually talk to my 11 year old son pretty openly. He actually doesn't mind telling me things, he tells me more then he tells his father. I am trying real hard to be sure that Cody feels comfortable talking to me or his father so that he will ask questions too and hopefully he will make some better decisions. You learn with each child the mistakes that you have made and unfortunately the second child usually gets the brunt of any issue you may have had with your older child.

You know...I was thinking about this while talking to a friend yesterday...our kids grow up so quickly...you blink and they are grown and ready to leave. So don't sweat the small stuff...you have to let them be kids. I think our schools push kids too hard to grow up too fast and they are missing out on being a kid! I have to remind myself at times that she is not a 'kid' anymore and it will not be long and she will not live here anymore, that is a scary thought. Hug your kids while they let you! :-) Cody still hugs and kisses me in front of his friends...I am taking it while I can...it won't be long and that will change.

10/03/08 05:04 PM #570    

Melissa Weaver (Lynskey)

Sean...I am really sorry that you had so many girl 'friends' when we were in school...but I have to say you were one of my BEST friends, especially when we were younger! But I probably would have taken a chance on you. LOL!!

10/03/08 05:14 PM #571    

 

Kristen Witt (Bray)

Thanks to all of you who posted about my question. I just can't help but think that when my kids bring over their girlfriends or boyfriends, that I am going to be thinking "are they doing it?". And then locking the doors before they escape, and put Barney or Sesame Street on as a Friday night movie. I guess they won't go for that, huh? I made my fair share of mistakes, but I wasn't a bad kid. So, I guess if my kids followed in my footsteps, I guess that is not the worse that can happen. But, as a parent, I would like to protect them more. My parents never mentioned sex in my house either. So, for me to talk about it to my kids, may take some hard work. So, here is my next question: Are you completely honest with your kids? If they ask "have you ever done drugs", "when did you start drinking alcohol?", "what age were you when you lost your virginity?", ...how do you answer those questions? It would seem odd to ask your child to be honest without someway you being honest back. But, how much do you share about your previous life?

10/03/08 05:29 PM #572    

Ken Haines

Faye,

If you can get that old guy a 5.25 30 yr. fixed w/ no points than I need to be talking to you.

Kristin,

I know what you mean about being honest w/ your kids. I want them to be honest with me. At least on some of those questions it is pretty easy for me to answer truthfully since I was such a late bloomer (for instance I did not have my first girlfriend until I was in college). The alcohol and drug questions not so much.

Ken

10/03/08 06:10 PM #573    

 

Shannon Davis (Nuckolls)

Jolee-Have you heard the song "Start a Band" by Brad Paisley & Keith Urban? Fun song. Hope you get on the road soon.

Several of you are saying you did not have boyfriends/girlfriends from our school or at all. I thought I was the only one! Perhaps I was in Jr. High 25 yrs. too early. Last spring, a cute & nice 8th grade boy asked me how old I was & I said 37, then he smiles with a wink & says "You need to meet my dad." The boy beside him said "Dude, she can't go out with your dad. Her name is Mrs. Nuckolls not Miss Nuckolls." Maybe he thought I was a nice substitute & would be a nice stepmom too?

Faye-You've got 70 yr. old men asking you out but at least that is better then when your business card was returned with your picture as the devil. PS-Go McCain/Palin

10/03/08 06:21 PM #574    

Melissa Weaver (Lynskey)

Kristen...I have not answered ALL those questions for my daughter. The virginity question...she really hasn't asked and the drugs/alcohol...I am honest but not going to TELL ALL...you know what I mean? It is hard to talk to them but if you don't, they will learn it some other way. You know what I mean!

10/03/08 06:38 PM #575    

 

Faye Sowers (Crute)

Carla, glad all is safe. Once I had someone who either wanted to rob me or sell me drugs approach, I held up my hand said "ain't got not time for your crap today" and walked on by......needless to say I am probably the crazy person that most robbers or whatever would run from.........do you have a dog......they are nice security.

Ken, how would you answer the questions....you always looked so innocent in school did you participate in any recreational activies......remember I am miss naive' April shared with me someone in one of our classes made her buy a joint one day and I said "WAS HE A DRUG DEALER.....April said Faye Get a clue...." anyways so if and when Maggie starts sneaking or doing suspicious stuff my hubby will have to handle it because once someone in high school had some pot in the car when he was giving me a ride did I know what it was.....no....okay I am a control freak 1 wine cooler and I got a buzz going so doing anything where I am out of it..I could not handle it.......so if Maggie asks me any of those hard questions I will be okay to answer however I plan on her friends knowing me very well and knowing I do not embarrass and I have no shame so bring it on suckers and toe the line........I hope I don't have to pay for my husbands teenage indiscretions cause I will not like it.....I know you all want to say grow up Faye I can't help it I was working doing school no time for any nonsense but these kids these days..with their adultlike behavior oh mercy I mean some of the behavior of these teens.....I hope I can survive Missy has good advice don't sweat the small stuff but Missy my question is does that "don't sweat the small stuff" come in a prescription because i will have 3 if so.....:) its a wild friday night at the crute house i am cleaning so i hope you all are out having wonderful family time or chilling time have a great weekend..........this nerd is out.........I know I have confessed and now I am a bigger nerd than I was in high school its okay some things never change.......

10/03/08 09:51 PM #576    

 

Jolee Clarke (Preston)

The Preston's are in MB! Papa bear crumbled when I brought the circus whip out. Just kidding. We had a great ride down. If you ever want to hop on the back of a motorcycle and see what its like to experience the smells, sights, and sounds of the seasons let me know...I'll come get u!

Missy WL, you certainly have good advice on a teen girl and yes, ask questions...then demand answers. I too have found out more than I wanted to know but the worst arguments have brought us closer.

Sean, where does the line begin? I think every girl at NHS would have been in it.

Talk to you all soon...going to tame the bear...haha..

10/03/08 10:04 PM #577    

Trina Schossow (Folden)

Jolee...Nuttin' But Strings!! I too cried when those sweet boys got third!! I think America blew it with the Opera boy takin' the whole thing. I could have handled the 'piano man' as the winner...booooo. I do hope you are on the way to the beach.

Carla...girl, I'm glad you are okay. That is a real wake up call for me, we are VERY lazy when it comes to locking our doors. Not anymore!! Heading to Walmart in the morning for keys!!!

Kristen WB...I do hope you got at least a few hours away tonight.

Hope everyone has a good night/weekend. I had a hideous week out of town and leave again on Sunday (tho only for a couple of days), so I'm out. Off to sleepy land.


10/03/08 10:15 PM #578    

 

Kristen Witt (Bray)

Sean --- Steve and I thought that we knew what was causing me to keep getting pregnant. So, we went to a doctor who confirmed what we thought was true. But, he told us that he could fix that problem. So, Steve and the doctor spent some quality time together. After that, Steve and I looked at each other in the eyes again, and poof, here I am pregnant again. I guess the doctor really didn't know what causes women to get pregnant or they need to revoke his operation license!!!! Not only is Steve a stud, he can definitely make you laugh. He embarrasses me a lot, but I wouldn't want anybody else in my life. We fight like cats and dogs, but when it comes down to it, he is my life and I love him very much. Heck, anybody who can piss me off quicker than anything but make me laugh at the same time, must be someone special!!!! :) :)

I did get some time to myself tonight. Had a glass of wine and spent some time getting to know the people who live in our little community. It was nice. I think that Steve was waiting by the door for me to come home!

10/04/08 08:07 AM #579    

Laura Wolfe (Campbell)

Missy WL - Gee, thanks for bursting my one small bubble of hope! I still don't know how I survived my own high school years, so I don't know how I will survive my daughter's. It may very well be the death of me.....

10/04/08 09:04 AM #580    

 

Vicky Lakes (Fuller)

Melissa - Hey Girl, don't leave me hanging, I am right there with you...got the senior also...and after our round and round about why we wouldn't let her drive into Philadelphia on a Saturday night when she gets lost 10 minutes from our house I was ready to put her outside in a cardboard box last night... She'll get herself all worked up on the "what-ifs" (like what if there was a concert could she go here or there..) and my favorite is the part when we ask her why her friend can't drive into Philly and we get the "Her Parents Wont Let her"...ok....here' comes the cocked head confused look like well duh... oh and Jess' curfew is 11 (set by the PA Licensing rule not us, she can't drive past 11), but if she's with an older friend it's 12 on the weekends), 1030 on a school night, never mind most of her friends have a 9 or 10 school night curfew...so the whole wanting to hang out with her friends later scenario...what friends do you have that can stay out later??? It's a circle, round and round we go...she can't wait to move out, and some days I can't wait either. For the most part I am lucky that she runs with a pretty good crowd, however when I went to turn a light off in the hall and I overheard her say on the phone "sex with him" my mouth hit the floor as I was quietly pressing my ear to the door...turns out she was talking about a girl that had sex with her best friends boyfriend and that she was digging a deeper hole by lying about it...I had to listen for awhile to make sure there were no references regarding her...but she has a cousin that had 2 by 19 and didn't finish school and didn't have her license when the first child came at 16). She's already claimed she's not having kids until 30..RIGHT ON... oh, and having to drag around the "school project" baby for a weekend that cried every hour...oh yea, that's what I am talking about...best birth control ever...I wouldnt' babysit for her and so she had to take it to the football game, to the mall and to work...it was classic.

Ahhh the memories of colored tights and matching dyed shoes.... speaking of Homecoming, Jess is going out for her dress today, at last look she was trying to convince me that the "lingerie" she showed me was actually a dress..ok, when the description reads 33" from shoulder, how much a-- do you really think this is going to cover? Satin, spaghetti strap item that barely covers your butt number and the 3 inch heels....right...and you think you are walking out of this house in that?....what ever happened to the yards and yards of fabric we had in our clothes? If we dressed like this in high school the teen pregnancy rate would have sky rocketed. One can only hope they don't have her size...and she comes to her senses...this coming from our usually very modest dressing daughter that has at least 3 layers on covering every square inch of pastey white skin. Can you tell I'm still worked up from last night??

Sean, you are lucky you even have a cardboard box...John learned a long time ago, just nod yes dear, at least he would still have a warm place to sleep.

Jolee - Hope you made it to the beach..

Kristen - As for your 8 year old, yea, it gets worse...the clothing is just the beginning...and even with just one boy I will say they are FAR EASIER...once the girls hit that hormonal roller coaster it's a long ride....one you don't want to get back in line to ride again. I've been pretty honest with my kids when they have asked, I don't offer up information, but they know I didnt' do drugs or smoke, but that I did occassionally drink, but I didn't drink and drive, and we were smart enought to have a designated driver most nights if there was going to be drinking. I had the dad that bought the booze provided you stayed at home.. I've allowed her to taste beer and wine, and she turns her nose up at it, and she can't stand the smell of smoke...so there's hope..but as for guys and intimacy..haven't crossed that threshold as there hasnt' been a significant other in the picture, and she's pretty good about brining her friends male and female home to hang out. I'm not niave to think she hasn't messed around, but I'd like to think I know her enough to use good judgement..her downfall is that her Dad knows every body so the guys feel comfortable around him, but John doesn't have a problem walking downstairs at 1130 and opening the back door and announcing "Thanks for stopping by" to get them to leave.

And BURRR, it's not supposed to be this cold up here already, what's up with that.

Kelly - Sorry to hear about the progress report, you are right, it's the hardest thing to do..especially when they are that sweet....how'd you rate getting one that wants to fix dinner?

Carla - Hope you got that deadbolt for the basement door. John got home yesterday, poor Toby, back into the crate at night.


10/04/08 09:41 AM #581    

Melissa Weaver (Lynskey)

Vicky...sorry I didn't mean to leave you out. I knew there was at least two others with older daughters (Robyn Miller has older daughters too). I tell you what, my daughter and I have fought most of her life. She is so much like me in personality that we just can't seem to get along. She also tells me about everyday that she is moving out in 5 months and so many days...as soon as she turns 18. I say the same thing everytime. Go...and sometimes I tell her how many days it is till she turns 18. The curfew...I have the same curfew for her. 12 on the weekends and 10:30 during the week and she thinks I am a tyrant. I look at it this way Vicky...we have survived! I have taught her right from wrong and done all I can do for her and she has taught me a lot about myslef over the years. All I can do now is support her and hope that she makes the right decisions in life.

10/04/08 09:46 AM #582    

Ken Haines

I have a contrary experience on the whole boys vs. girls issue. My son has been a challenge but my daughters have been very easy. At least so far, the oldest is only 12, so maybe that will change but Ben was much more of a challenge even when he was much younger and he remains so.


10/04/08 10:52 AM #583    

Julie Wilborn (Johnson)

Hey All! I have been trying to catch up on all the post!! You guys are great and hilarious!

Saw Kristy K's post and thought I would die! GREAT TIMES!!!! I pray to God my children don't ever read this!

I went to see Kid Rock last night! He was playing in an amphitheater in St Augustine and he was really (surprisingly) good!! I love concerts so I go pretty much whenever I can. He rocked though!!! I love his new song All Summer Long... Reminds me of High School!

10/04/08 10:57 AM #584    

Julie Wilborn (Johnson)

Loving the boy verses girls conversation...I vote boys! They are way easier to raise! Boys are just physically exhausting and girls are emotional exhausting. My sweet little girl is only 2 and she can exhaust me with her drama!!

10/04/08 12:21 PM #585    

 

Faye Sowers (Crute)

oh Julie if there is drama at 2 you haven't seen the good stuff yet....just wait that why I keep hair color cream close by for all the gray coverage.........but thank heavens her big brothers can keep the boys away for you.......those big brother body guards can come in handy for moms..........:)

10/04/08 03:57 PM #586    

 

Kristen Witt (Bray)

Faye -- I had a big brother, and I think that he secretly "sold me" out for cash. Hee~hee. I'm just kidding. I had a brother who didn't care. On the other hand, my dad always made sure that I knew "mouth-to-snout" because he thought that all the guys I dated were just dirty dogs!

10/04/08 06:00 PM #587    

Stefanie Lugar

Kristen- We must have the same brother. My brother was the same way. He never was protective. I was more protective of him. What's up with that?! I think it is still like that too. He is more sensitive than I am so maybe that is why.

Kelly- Was your first concert Sha-na-na? I don't know if that is spelled correctly bc I lost my ticket stub to that one and didn't get a T-Shirt either. Dag-on-it! I went to that crazy concert with my parents. At the time it was soooo cool! Now that I look back, it had to be the worst concert ever. I don't even think it qualifies as a concert. No lighters, no bra's, underwear being thrown, etc....

Vicky- Girl, thank you for the pictures of Rick. I'm not sure if he has pants on or not in that photo. He better, he told me he only performs naked for me and only me! Did you get that off a porn site by chance? lol.

Sean- Leave your wife alone when she cries. Don't you know we can cry at anytime for any reason or without reason. Have you heard of estrogen??? That's all I need to say. Hey do you remember when a group of us piled into Jay Wimmers Jetta and we were driving through North Lakes really late at night and somehow we took out someone's mailbox and a couple flowers/bushes? Jay's car was ok for the most part but we just left the scene and went back to Jennifer Wobensmiths house. Another thing you parents have to worry about. Is Jay Wimmer out there? I know Laura C gave him the name of the website.

Sorry all you Republicans out there but I think S. Palin could have left out the wink during her debate. What the hell was that all about? Is she answering a question in the Ms. World Pageant or running for VP?

10/04/08 06:48 PM #588    

 

Kristen Witt (Bray)

Stef --- considering we lived so close together, I am sure that your brother and my brother probably had a plan regarding you and I. I also remember a time when I had a date (I won't name his name on the website) and I went outside to say goodbye to my brother right before my date was to arrive. My brother and Scott Fisher were playing basketball and Scott thought that it would be funny to douse me with water. He didn't know that I had a date! So, here I am ... drenched with water and my date was to arrive in 10 minutes. My, oh my, how quick I was to redo my outfit and hair in such a short time. And, then, Scott still had the nerve to walk out to the car and remind the boy that if he tried anything on me, that it would be his last date. My brother just stood back and laughed. So, Scott was more like my older brother than Brian was!!!!!!!

Sean --- I wanted to remind you of many court cases where women killed their husbands over little things because of our hormones. Just thought that I would throw that out there. Hee~hee. Steve gets real nervous when I start watching the program "Snapped". If you have never seen it, then let me tell you about it. It is a program where women "snap" and kill. Enough said! :)

10/04/08 08:56 PM #589    

 

Vicky Lakes (Fuller)

Hey Melissa- I know what you mean...you love them to death and don't want them to leave, and then you are counting the days til they do. Jess has always been a good kid, smart, but here lately I think she is just pushing my buttons...I know for a fact that we give her far more freedom than most of the parents around here do... we tell her she's the test subject because John and I are such young parents. Besides I know we both did stupid stuff, and she will too, but reality is she can't seem to get it in her head she's only been driving for 5 months and everything she does is within a 10 mile radius...I don't mind her driving further, just not to Philly when she's never been there, and certainly not alone...duh... Granted next year she will be going to Temple (GO OWLS) and living in the big city doing what she wants when she wants, but that's still 11 months out..so until then I guess she'll just have to put up with us.

Sorry Faye, haven't started covering the grays yet...bring it on...I'll be totally silver by the time Hannah makes it to HS.

Julie - I love that song too, I didn't realize he sung it until I saw a video of him on someshow...

Hey Greg, mr D.J. got some lyrics for us??

Stef - I think Beth talked to Jay Wimmer and he was going to be at the beach during the reunion, but when he got back he and Beth & Robert were supposed to go out. Haven't heard if they did or not. I'm sure he was told about the website.




10/05/08 01:19 AM #590    

Stefanie Lugar

Vicky- I guess your daughter is fearless like we were at that age. That place is buzzzzy!!! I was in Pa for 3 months for work and I stayed right outside downtown Philly (15 min.s away). I decided to drive into the city one evening and I ended up in New Jersey. That is so typical of me. I can't even drive to Salem w/o getting lost. I talked to Jay W. after Mike's service. We were at Shakers and we were talking about the class website. It was then we discovered we were on the wrong site, we were on Classmates.com. That would explain why we couldn't communicate via the forum nor see anyone's profile. I guess I am challenged in many ways come to think of it. That's when Laura C. gave us the correct website.

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