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09/27/22 01:41 PM #16216    

 

Susan Sarbacher (Pence)

How we miss these two lovable troublemakers. Please see In Memory for remembrances of Peggy and Dennis 


09/28/22 08:16 PM #16217    

 

Jay Shackford

What’s the Key to Understanding Donald J. Trump?  Start with Queens.

“Confidence Man,” Maggie Haberman’s biography of the former president, argues that it’s essential to grasp New York’s steamy, histrionic folkwaysl 

By Joe Klein/The New York Times

  • Sept. 28, 2022Updated 4:42 p.m. ET

CONFIDENCE MAN: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America, by Maggie Haberman


Donald Trump is too much with us. We are stalled, rubbernecking the endless carnage of his road rage. There have been far too many books about him, with far too many “revelations.” After a while, the revelations melt into an indistinguishable muck; his boorish narcissism, a bludgeon. And so it’s hard to assess the news value of “Confidence Man,” Maggie Haberman’s much anticipated biography of the president she followed more assiduously than any other journalist. No doubt, there are revelations aplenty here. But this is a book more notable for the quality of its observations about Trump’s character than for its newsbreaks. It will be a primary source about the most vexing president in American history for years to come.

Haberman is famously formidable. She is a native New Yorker, a competitive advantage given her subject. She has worked for the trifecta of local dailies — The Post, The Daily News and, most notably, The Times (plus a stint at Politico). She was awarded a well-deserved Pulitzer Prize for her work with The Times. The only other journalist who can match her access to a recent president is Lou Cannon, who spent much of a lifetime covering Ronald Reagan, a far less enervating task than Haberman’s. Trump has called her “a crooked H[illary] flunky” and “an unprofessional hack” while giving her endless interviews, including three for this book. She is an exemplar of her craft, relentless, judicious and even-keeled, giving credit, where due, to her colleagues and fellow biographers, while admitting and adjusting her occasional mistakes.

Haberman’s thesis is that you can’t really understand Donald Trump unless you’re familiar with the steamy, histrionic folkways of New York’s political and construction tribes. She devotes nearly half her book to his life before the presidency. “The dynamics that defined New York City in the 1980s stayed with Trump for decades,” Haberman writes. “He often seemed frozen in time there.”

Haberman’s Trump is very much a child of Queens, although of an exotic sort — a white Protestant. I, too, am a child of Queens, and Trump’s use of phrases like “the Blacks” and “the gays” brings back memories of my grandmother denigrating “the Irish” who lived next door. Outer-borough bigotry was endemic, but it tended to be casual, not profound. Ethnic street fights were followed by interethnic marriages; they still are. And always, for all of us — and even for a rich kid like Trump — there was the allure of Manhattan, a place far more glamorous than our humble turf. If we could make it there…

“I can invite anyone for dinner,” Trump said after his inauguration in 2017. But he remained an outer-borough brat, intimidated by elites. As president, he threw tantrums when he thought people were lecturing or talking down to him. In an infamous meeting with the Joint Chiefs at the Pentagon, “Trump knew that he was being told something he did not fully comprehend,” Haberman writes, “and instead of acknowledging that, he shouted down the teachers.”

Trump was schooled by media-obsessed bullies and assorted wiseguys like Roy Cohn, Rudy Giuliani, George Steinbrenner, various Cuomos and the irrepressible mayor Ed Koch. Cohn taught this lesson: “I bring out the worst in my enemies. That’s how I get them to defeat themselves.” Other lessons were learned the hard way: When Trump tried to threaten Richard Ravitch of New York’s Urban Development Corporation, telling him, “If you don’t give me the tax abatement, I’m gonna have you fired,” Ravitch ordered him to get “out of here before I count to three or I’m going to have you arrested.” And it’s not hard to discern Ed Koch’s influence on the future president’s later Twitter style: When Trump asked for another tax break, Koch replied, “Piggy, piggy, piggy.” Haberman notes, deftly, the similarities between Trump and the Rev. Al Sharpton, which went well beyond tonsorial excess. Indeed, Sharpton expressed admiration for Trump’s manner: “If Trump had been born Black, he would have been [the boxing promoter] Don King. … Because both of them — everything was transactional.” Trump learned from Sharpton, who backed the Black teenager Tawana Brawley even when evidence mounted that her story of a racist attack was a fabrication.

In a more profound sense, Trump was a creature of his times. He traversed the commercial arc of the past 40 years — moving from (failed) business mogul to celebrity to “brand,” just as American free enterprise moved from the production of steel, to casino games on Wall Street, to celebrity “influencers” on reality TV. He wasn’t a very good businessman, but he played one on “The Apprentice,” which was how most Americans met him. An Iowa man explained his reason for supporting Trump: “I watched him run his business.” In fact, there is a perverse truth to that. Trump found his true calling when he started selling his name to foreigners who wanted to put it on buildings. He peddled products like Trump wine and Trump Steaks, and scams like Trump University, to a gullible public seeking gilt by association. “His personal brand mattered more than what was on his balance sheet,” Haberman writes. It sure beat working.

The fantasy of decisiveness — his big line was “You’re fired!” — added to his political appeal, but that was phony, too. Haberman reports numerous occasions when Trump lacked the stomach to sack staffers face to face. At one point, he tried to lure Vice President Mike Pence’s top aide, Nick Ayres, to become his own chief of staff — but only if Ayres agreed to tell the incumbent, Gen. John Kelly, that Trump wanted him gone. Ayres refused to play. So Trump resorted to an old New York modus, backstabbing and rumor-mongering and humiliation, to get Kelly to resign. Trump “enjoyed the chaos of [his staff] fighting with one another,” Haberman writes.

There were two other significant New York lessons. One was that the press — especially the tabloids and TV news, and, later, social media — could be overwhelmed by brazen performance art. Trump managed to gin his divorce from his first wife, Ivana, into a war between competing gossip columnists, Liz Smith and Cindy Adams. He played the tabloids like a pipe organ: The divorce was on the front page of The Daily News for 12 straight days, “a car wreck where the victims repeatedly tried to hurt themselves more instead of accepting medical help,” Haberman writes. Trump eventually came to understand that he could use his own raw, outer-borough resentments to feed the public’s latent anger against the politically correct snootiness of the establishment media. When he cried, “Fake news,” they believed him. During the 2016 presidential campaign, I continually interviewed people who loved Trump because “he sounds like us.” And somehow, in a miracle of salesmanship, the way Trump’s supporters saw him became identical with the way he hoped to be seen.

He was amazed by this. He could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and they’d still support him, he said. But the relationship was symbiotic and subtle. One of the many services Haberman performs in “Confidence Man” is to set out the process by which Trump came to his outrageous positions — like the ugly notion that Barack Obama wasn’t born here, and the insinuation that most immigrants coming across the southern border were violent criminals. He didn’t just blurt out these thoughts; he was nudged into them by the reactions of his most extreme supporters. Even his desire to build a wall at the Mexican border came gradually: Only when he began to see it as a crowd-pleasing construction project — like his triumphant restoration of New York’s Wollman Rink — did the idea achieve pride of place in his campaign pitch. It becomes clear, as Haberman builds her case, that Trump wasn’t just a grotesque, a lucky nincompoop, but a genius — though not a particularly “stable” one — when it came to reading the terrain of the digital-age media.

The final New York lesson was, perhaps, the most significant: He learned how to stay one step ahead of the sheriff. This was, and remains, his greatest skill. There were numerous ways to do it. The most obvious was political influence. Trump made generous campaign donations to Giuliani and the old-money Manhattan district attorney Robert Morgenthau. They, in turn, never got around to investigating him despite a strong whiff of ordure emanating from his dealings with Mafia-controlled construction unions and casino thugs. (Later, Haberman writes, Trump accepted a $20 million Super PAC contribution from the billionaire Sheldon Adelson to move the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.)

Trump understood that the best defense was, at times, to be offensive. He threatened to out the publisher Malcolm Forbes, a closeted gay man, if he ran a negative story. He threatened lawsuits left and right. He lost occasionally: His corporations went bankrupt; he settled a fraud case with the Securities and Exchange Commission; he paid a variety of paltry fines. But he always managed to muddy the waters when he lost, claiming victory or threatening still more lawsuits.

Most important, he developed a very precise sense of what the traffic would bear. He knew he could stiff his lawyers and the small businesspeople who were his subcontractors. “Do you know how much publicity these people get for having me as a client?” And, for all the sloppiness in the rest of his life, he deployed words with a litigator’s precision — even if it sounded the opposite. Just think of his “perfect” phone call with the Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. It was, in fact, a master class in veiled intimidation: “The United States has been very, very good to Ukraine.” Just think of his instructions to the Proud Boys, a mixed “Stand back and stand by.” Just think of his speech on Jan. 6: He never said directly, “Go down to the Capitol and try to overthrow the government.” He always gave himself room to duck and cover.

We can hope that Trump is an aberration, not an avatar, but that would probably be delusional. He has created a brutish new standard for American politics, and put a terrible dent in our democracy. Maggie Haberman has been there for it all. The story she tells is unbearably painful because Trump’s success is a reflection of our national failure to take ourselves seriously. We will be very lucky, indeed, if he doesn’t prove our downfall.

 

CONFIDENCE MAN: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America | By Maggie Haberman | Illustrated | 597 pp. | Penguin Press | $32


Joe Klein is the author of seven books, including “Primary Colors,” “Woody Guthrie: A Life” and “Charlie Mike.”

 

 


09/29/22 08:55 PM #16218    

 

Jack Mallory

Another gorgeous early autumn day. Long Pond, in the foothills of the White Mountains. 

 

 



Deb rescues a drowning female butterfly. Who knows how to sex a monarch?
 

A Granite State fisherman who forgets his paddle at home does NOT give up his day fishing!

 


The photographer, photographed. 


09/30/22 05:35 AM #16219    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

I had to stop reading Joe Kline's review of Maggie Haberman's book because I will order it the day it's available and didn't want to spoil the ending! Can't wait to read it. She's such a good writer!


09/30/22 08:54 AM #16220    

 

Jay Shackford

Yeah Joan, Maggie is a hard-nosed reporter, superb writer and being a New Yorker herself understands Trump and where he comes from better than any other journalist covering the seemingly never-ending Old Bone Spurs beat.  Trump has a knack for out running the law, but this time it might be different.  My gut tells me The Donald has one foot in the grave, one behind bars and the other in Russia.  Stay tuned for a very messy ending.  The other recent book worth reading is "The Divider" by Peter Baker of the NYT and Susan Glasser of the New Yorker. 


09/30/22 08:54 AM #16221    

 

Jay Shackford

Yeah Joan, Maggie is a hard-nosed reporter, superb writer and being a New Yorker herself understands Trump and where he comes from better than any other journalist covering the seemingly never-ending Old Bone Spurs beat.  Trump has a knack for out running the law, but this time it might be different.  My gut tells me The Donald has one foot in the grave, one behind bars and the other in Russia.  Stay tuned for a very messy ending.  The other recent book worth reading is "The Divider" by Peter Baker of the NYT and Susan Glasser of the New Yorker. 


09/30/22 12:17 PM #16222    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Jack, I love those pictures in the foothills of the White Mountains...Love that area...we have been there many times for mountain climbs...not  for about 10 years though.

Jay, I agree that Trump is finally going to run out of his escape routes....For the life of me, I can't figure out why so many of the Republican party salute him even now. Love, Joanie


09/30/22 05:25 PM #16223    

 

Jack Mallory

​I've got The Divider queued up next on the iPad, will comment once I've read it, or at least in it a bit. I wish I were as confident as Jay that The Divider himself was truly politically and legally threatened, but I keep thinking of Weimar Germany. Never underestimate the fears and irrational responses of people who imagine themselves threatened by cultural, religious, or ethnic differences. I hear a couple of Texan "Americans" have just murdered one immigrant, shot another.


https://www.tpr.org/border-immigration/2022-09-29/texas-dps-fbi-investigating-two-separate-shootings-of-migrants-in-west-texas

Surprised?

*********

33 when I took Tasca out this morning. Colors are changing on the Contoocook, but the heron is still here. 


 


10/01/22 01:19 AM #16224    

 

Helen Lambie (Goldstein)


10/02/22 08:18 AM #16225    

 

Jack Mallory

The paddling, picture-taking pundit, Heather Cox Richardson offers this today:

https://substack.com/app-link/post?publication_id=20533&post_id=76030679&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&triggerShare=true&isFreemail=false&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjoxODEzMzUxMCwicG9zdF9pZCI6NzYwMzA2NzksImlhdCI6MTY2NDY3ODA4NCwiZXhwIjoxNjY3MjcwMDg0LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMjA1MzMiLCJzdWIiOiJwb3N0LXJlYWN0aW9uIn0.qKs6S8UutPbBslZ0v2Wbm4b_q2IuNciK0woqOIzCvTQ


10/02/22 10:29 AM #16226    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

Thanks for birthday wishes from several of you! I share a birthday with Jimmy Carter who was 98 yesterday!

Since I try to pretend my birthdays aren't happening, we took off for a two-day road trip in the Cevennes. It's a wild and beautiful part of France memorialized by Robert Louis Stevenson where he covered 126 miles with his donkey. There are pine-covered mountains for as far as you can see but fortunately, it's still fairly warm. 

On the drive today we listened to a podcast, The Bullwark where they interviewed Peter Baker and Susan Glasser the authors of The Divider. Sounds like a good read. 


10/03/22 10:18 AM #16227    

 

Jack Mallory

 

HELP! Does anybody know the “one sheep” story referenced here?

 

“'one-sheep Republicans.' Not sure if I need to explain —

“Gail: Oh, let yourself go.

“Bret: It’s a reference to an old joke about an old man whose lifetime of good deeds on behalf of his little village is undone on account of a single unfortunate moment of passion with a woolly companion.”



https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/03/opinion/trump-biden-desantis-pardon.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
 


10/03/22 01:50 PM #16228    

 

Jay Shackford

Happy birthday Joan! "The Divider" is the most comprehensive and insightful book on the Trump presidency to date.  It connects all the dots. My guess is that Maggie's book, The Confidence Man, will be equally good.  It comes out on Oct. 4.  


10/04/22 06:59 AM #16229    

 

Jack Mallory

​I think I'm far enough into The Divider: Trump in the White House 2017-2021 to be able to comment on content and quality.  

Although extremely well-written, it's a difficult book to read. That is, it reads like a lengthy piece of very high quality journalism: clear, detailed, and complete: 650 pages of text, not including copious notes. Those notes are thorough, and although not embedded links the ones I've checked on-line lead directly to the original sources. Content not based on secondary sources is derived from over 300 interviews done by the authors.

I'll quote Baker and Glasser's preface to let them tell you how they intend the book:

 

"This is a book about what happened in that presidency, about an unimaginable period in our history when the United States had a leader for the first time who neither knew nor subscribed to many of the fundamental tenets of the Constitution and even actively worked to undermine them. 

"This is not exclusively a work of history, however . . . The Trump era is not past; it is America’s present and maybe even its future . . . it is a report from an active crime scene. . . . Someday, whether soon or not, it will no longer be a subject of current events. And then, we hope, this book can play a different role, explaining for future disbelieving generations what it was like when a crude New York real estate mogul with an itchy Twitter finger, an outsize self-regard, and an extreme disdain for all who came before him ended up as the president of the United States."

 

The difficulty in reading The Divider is in its detail and thoroughness, as well-written as it is. It's aimed at the reader who is looking for a one volume account of that "unimaginable period." For me, and I suspect many others, to immerse oneself in this account is like suffering a neurological trauma that leaves you unable to remember anything for five years of your life, other than the fine details of that traumatic experience. Reading The Divider is like returning to the intensity of life under Trump, with the threat and actuality of damage and destruction to our democracy, and human decency itself. 

It would be easier on the reader to just put the book down, go for a walk or a paddle. And you occasionally must, in order to survive it with your sanity intact. But the ongoing nature of the Trumpist threat makes that escape only temporary. The book is required reading. For our democracy to survive the continuing assault on its fundamental tenets--our dedication to union, justice, domestic tranquility, common defense, and general welfare--we must remember in detail the threats that a Trump presidency created and could create again.

As Baker and Glasser note in their last chapter, referring to Trump's escaping impeachment conviction the second time, "with Donald Trump, it was never over." It's still not--read this book, as a reminder of the past and potentially future Trump. 
 


 


10/04/22 07:47 AM #16230    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Jack, that Preface is so powerful. Thank you for the information about the book. There is another book out lately about the impact of the Supreme Coiurt by Dahlia Lithwick. (not sure if I got the spelling right.) I haven't read it but I have heard her speaking and talking about her book....it is about the peril we are in because  the Supreme Court materialized that McConnell and Trump and right ideologues worked to bring to fruition. We are in big trouble as we know with the overturning of Roe. Precedent matters nothing to the matjority. ...Cases are coming up about gender rights, affirmative action, voter rights (what's left of them from the last gutting) including a case that would allow the Legislature to determine elections...of course there are election deniers in power who then would claim that their candidate won no matter what really happened. Take care friends.....Love, Joanie


10/04/22 10:56 AM #16231    

 

Jack Mallory

And this. Representative of the book in both the depiction of Trump's duplicity and lunacy, and the seriousness of the implications. 
 

CHAPTER 10

Russia, Russia, Russia

Helsinki was beautiful that July day in the summer of 2018. The sun glinted off the Gulf of Finland and onto the yellow neoclassical Presidential Palace where Trump met with Vladimir Putin. More than five hours after Trump arrived, forty minutes into the news conference that assured that Helsinki would become indelibly associated with his presidency, Trump was asked a question, the question, about his 2016 election and Russia.

Jonathan Lemire, Associated Press: "President Trump, you first. Just now President Putin denied having anything to do with the election interference in 2016. Every U.S. intelligence agency has concluded that Russia did. My first question for you, sir, is who do you believe? My second question is would you now, with the whole world watching, tell President Putin—would you denounce what happened in 2016 and would you warn him to never do it again?"

Trump: "So let me just say that we have two thoughts. You have groups that are wondering why the FBI never took the server. Why haven’t they taken the server? Why was the FBI told to leave the office of the Democratic National Committee? I’ve been wondering that. I’ve been asking that for months and months and I’ve been tweeting it out and calling it out on social media. Where is the server? I want to know, where is the server and what is the server saying? With that being said, all I can do is ask the question. My people came to me, Dan Coats came to me and some others and said they think it’s Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it’s not Russia. I will say this. I don’t see any reason why it would be, but I really do want to see the server. But I have confidence in both parties. I really believe that this will probably go on for a while, but I don’t think it can go on without finding out what happened to the server. What happened to the servers of the Pakistani gentleman that worked on the DNC? Where are those servers? They’re missing. Where are they? What happened to Hillary Clinton’s emails? Thirty-three thousand emails gone—just gone. I think in Russia they wouldn’t be gone so easily. I think it’s a disgrace that we can’t get Hillary Clinton’s 33,000 emails. So I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. And what he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators, with respect to the twelve people. I think that’s an incredible offer. Okay, thank you."[1]

Trump, it turned out, still had the power to shock. In one long, confusing answer mixing conspiracy theory, misdirection, and outright fiction, Trump acknowledged that he would accept the word of Putin over that of his own intelligence agencies. After years of controversy and while he was the subject of a special counsel investigation on this very subject, he praised the “extremely strong and powerful” denial of the Russian president about the 2016 election interference. And he welcomed Putin’s vague but “incredible offer” to supposedly cooperate with American investigators, an offer that his own aides on the sidelines of that disastrous news conference were frantically warning him was a trap.
 

Worse, if that was possible, Trump sounded flat-out unbalanced. The DNC server? Hillary Clinton’s emails? The “Pakistani gentleman”? What the hell was he talking about? Through it all, as Trump spoke, there was Putin standing to the side, smirking. When the Russian president left the hall, he turned to his press secretary, Dmitri Peskov, and shook his head. The news conference was “bullshit,” he said in Russian loudly enough to be overheard.[2] The debacle immediately raised more disturbing questions—never really answered—about what had gone on in the private two-hour session between the two leaders.

Back in the United States, dying of cancer, Senator John McCain, Trump’s fierce Republican critic, put out a statement that spoke for many in both parties. It was, he said, “one of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory.”[3]


10/04/22 12:57 PM #16232    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

It's okay Jack. I bought the book so you don't need to send us entire chapters. If anyone's interested, they can buy the book. 


10/04/22 02:59 PM #16233    

 

Jack Mallory

Not an entire chapter, by any means. 
 

But break up your reading with walks, for sanity sake. Just took 45 minutes, found the heron on the river and a Downy Woodpecker just off the back deck!


 


10/05/22 01:59 PM #16234    

 

Jack Mallory

Just got email claiming to be from Cynthia Rock. Kind of a vague question about using Amazon. Anybody else? Not answering until I can verify, suggest similar caution to anyone else.


10/05/22 06:15 PM #16235    

 

Stephen Hatchett

Re the book --- I got more than enough from NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC about its contents.  I'll stick to reading Heather Cox Richarson's "Letters from an American".  I need a walk after reading that.  That is OK these days because we've just adopted a new dog -- female, Australian cattle dog mis, 4 yrs old, has mistreatment issues, but is becoming a real love.   She needs long walks and so do I, for all kinds of reasons.

Jack, the email from "Cynthia" -- was it an email to your home email or was it a personal message on this forum's site?   I have not seen amything myself.  Yes, caution.

 


10/05/22 07:26 PM #16236    

 

Jack Mallory

It came to the home address, Steve. I responded with a test question to the address it came from, also sent a direct message through the forum asking if she had emailed. No answer yet to either. I'll keep you all informed, but don't respond if you get something from "Cynthia" until we can confirm it's legit. 
 

More color coming on. Looks like the season is running a little late, a little subdued because of the drought, maybe. 


 

Enjoy the new pup!
 


10/06/22 09:35 AM #16237    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Jack, thanks for the excerpts. I read the Washington Post daily but am not the best at reading these important books. I read Jamie Raskin's book awhile back. I guess others are already reading the book you mentioned. Thanks. Love Joanie ♥️

10/07/22 07:35 AM #16238    

 

Jack Mallory

Serendipity isn't totally random, it frequently involves at least a little bit of planning to be in the right place at the right time. 
 

 

But sometimes, the totally random occurs:

I had NO idea that leaf in the middle was in mid-air when I pulled the trigger. 
 


10/07/22 09:14 AM #16239    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Jack, thanks for sharing such great shots. It's fun to get a surprise one like that leaf falling. Love, Joanie

10/07/22 03:24 PM #16240    

 

Stephen Hatchett

Well you are also an artist, Joanie.  I'll sure bet there are some fun surprises in your creations -- things like an good, emotional reaction in one of your viewers.


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