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10/31/25 11:36 PM #18580    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Nori, I agree with Jack and Joan...you can't assume those in the Know Know...that is the problem, Trump has gotten rid of all the people who do oversight to check on what is being done...I think the problem is that you are always deciding that Trump is acting in good faith. He is not. He is having boats blown up and people are being murdered on these boats without even knowing in many cases who they are. Trump lies all the time so that is the problem when people believe the lies..These boats are in International waters and we are not at war with Venezuala so this is really horrible amd illegal. Love, Joanie. 


11/01/25 01:42 AM #18581    

 

Nora Skinker (Morton)

Suspicions surround the Democratic Party to the point that it has become a party solely of resistance. Every post drips with distain, distrust, disgust in Trump. When can we start seeing it as a party of results? Vision? Ideas? Who would you choose to help lead you to those results? Mamdani? AOC? Liz Warren? Newsom? On whom do you lean?

 

 

 


11/01/25 06:11 AM #18582    

 

Jack Mallory

"Can you tell me anything about any of this because I'm totally in the dark?"

If you know, you know, Joan. If you don't know, just trust. The government wouldn't lie to you! Would it? 


11/01/25 06:38 AM #18583    

 

Jack Mallory

Joanie, the dangers of IYKYK are not so much in the lack of competency in government but lack of democracy. Advocating IYKYK  takes knowledge and control of what the government is doing and puts it in the hands of an all-knowing, all-controlling elite--a class, a party, even an individual. This is clearly what King George, Stalin, Nixon, Xi, or Trump wanted/want. And what their supporters want.

This is why many of us regard totalitarians and their advocates with "distain, distrust, and disgust." Their values are worthy of such regard. 
 


11/01/25 07:26 AM #18584    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

I agree Jack...the biggest threat caused by Trump and his cohorts is that they are ruling as autocrats and its a direct threat to Democracy...

Nori, its obvious you are not reading the poliico link I sent you that explains that Trump does not want to help even people who are in danger of starvation, those on SNAP...He refused to give funds to cover those folks when there is money alloted in just a case like this for Emergencies, such as a government shutdown. Instead of releasing funds for the needy, he wants to bail out Argentina to the tune of 20 billion dollars. Its probably not helpful to debate things if you don't check and keep an open mind about the harms of Trump. Many Americans are wising up to the dangers of Trump. That is why his approval ratings are around 37%. Only the hard core MAGAs are sticking with him. Republicans like Democrats are paying more in the grocery store. Republicans are in danger of their rural hospitals closing. People in both parties are going to pay hugely more money to try to get health care. Many won't be able to afford it and many will die. The majority of people in this country don't like the demolition of the East Wing, filled with history to build a lavish glittery ballroom bigger even then the whole White House. Love, Joanie


11/01/25 08:18 AM #18585    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Jack, re your good comment that it's Democracy that is at stake, my mentioning Trump getting rid of the experts and oversight and putting in his sycophants is a move among many Trump does  to  dismantle Democracy.  Love, Joanie


11/01/25 09:32 AM #18586    

 

Jack Mallory

"If you don't know you don't know" can also be useful, to those making the decisions, those pulling the triggers, and those buying the explosives and paying the salaries--the tax paying citizens like all of us. If you don't know about the innocents who may also be on those boats, it isn't a problem. For you. 
 


https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/30/dod-military-strikes-drug-smugglers-00630267
 

I guess that's one reason so many people go along with totalitarian systems. It's easier to just shrug your shoulders, just let those in the know make the decisions; easier to just shrug your shoulders, be able to say you didn't know when their decisions are horrific. 


11/01/25 12:34 PM #18587    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Yes Nori, I know the Dems can vote to reopen the government but the reason they haven't is because they want to negotiate with the republicans to extend health care coverage under Obamacare that is ending and reduce the high cost of health care going up right away for so many, making health care unaffordable for millions of folks, and death on the horizon for some of the people not covered.  The Republucans can reopen the government just by negotiating with Democrats, but instead they are not even in session so they can refuse to seat the newly elected Rep from Arizona. Her vote would be the critical vote needed to force the release of the Epstein files and Trump and his Congress cronies don't want to do that.  So you should delve a little more into what is really going on then Trumps talking points. Love, Joanie


11/01/25 04:16 PM #18588    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

I asked Nori a bunch of questions but she just changed the subject. Classic.

Do you suppose there is a reason that every post about the felon "drips with distain [sic], distrust, disgust" ?  I for one, am glad that my disdain, distrust and disgust are being clearly understood! In fact I have much worse to say about the felon but this being a family publication, I hold my tongue. 


11/03/25 09:22 AM #18589    

 

Jack Mallory

Masha Gessen grew up in Russia and has had a career as a journalist there and in the U.S. This piece speaks quite directly to the responsibility of citizens NOT to just shrug their shoulders and put knowledge and decisions in the hands of rulers--either in America, Russia, or Israel, which this article focuses on. 

The article begins:

"When your country pursues abhorrent policies, when the face it turns to the world is the face of a monster, what does that say about you? In my experience, it is strikingly easy to shrug off one’s responsibility for the country where one pays taxes, contributes to the public conversation and, at least nominally, has the right to vote, if that country is the United States. It seems one can just say “Not in my name” and continue to enjoy the wealth and the freedom of movement one’s citizenship confers. But as this country builds more cages for immigrants, deploys military force against civilians in city after city, regularly commits murder in the high seas and systematically destroys its own democratic institutions, that may change. It should change. What does one do then? How can one be a good citizen of a bad state?" 

I think I would rephrase that as "a good citizen of a state that does bad things" (somewhere in teacher training, chiding to characterize the behavior, not the student) but the article continues here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/03/opinion/israel-dissidents.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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Looking for a picture of a man who's never used a shovel holding a shovel that's never been used?

Bill Gates


11/04/25 03:23 PM #18590    

 

Nora Skinker (Morton)

     SOOO, nobody here DOES know the status of every person running drugs onto our shores. And, unless our Intelligence personnel does its job & shares info with our elected officials and the public, we will never know. (Of course, when the public knew from Colin Powell about Intelligence sharing info re WMDs, both parties voted to take on Iraq. Bad move! But, I digress.) So, let's talk about what we DO know today: narco-terrorists are not on the seas as before, & Americans aren't dying at the previous rate because this administration is acting to put a stop to it.  As I alluded to in a recent post, cocaine manufacturing plants are thriving in Venezuela due to America's drug demands. Yes, Joan, Mexico runs fentanyl to us (under China's manufacturing sponsorship) but Mexico's President is cooperating with our war on the cartels. Venezuela, under Maduro, is not. All of that said, what would you do? Obviously, our Coasties sniffing out drugs on drug boats has not worked. At this point, after the loss of tens of thousands of Americans,  "fighting fire with fire" sure as heck works for me. I know it's hard to digest, but the enemy is NOT Trump. I blame the suppliers of drugs into our country who have gone unchecked for too long. 
     As for the shutdown. I stick to my original premise: it's 100% politics at it's worst. A stand-off of egos. Plenty of finger pointing does not feed the hungry or keep planes in the air. Anything any of us say about it, is pure conjecture. JMO. 
     Nobody likes the idea of Mamdani running NYC? Kinda surprising, since you're a Bernie guy, right, Jack? 


 


11/04/25 03:59 PM #18591    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Your guy Trump doesn't want to feed the needy Nori. Billions of dollars are in reserve for the people on SNAP in case of a govt shutdown and Trump refused to release the funds but now he has a court order to do that. He is more interested in giving 20 or 40 billion to Argentina so he can get paybacks or in building a 35O million dollar glitzy ballroom while people are starving.  You don't check the links we send you..The problem is it's not conclusive who is on those boats being blown out of the water in Internatiinal waters. .  We are not at war with Venezuela so again Trump murders people without congressional oversight. He fires all the people who do oversight and just goes ahead with unchecked executive orders and unchecked power.  Love, Joanie


11/04/25 05:49 PM #18592    

 

Jack Mallory

Quite sure I've never expressed an opinion about Mamdani governing NYC, Nori, pro or con. Because I don't have one--you must be having some kind of Trumpian fantasy. I'm not a New Yorker, don't profess to know their issues or Mamdani's qualifications well enough to take a side. 

I'm certainly an admirer of Bernie, beats admiring a guy that orders the killing of the innocent. Or don't you believe that people are innocent until proven guilty, Nori? Should a head of state be able to order the execution of people from other countries in international waters, just by asserting their guilt? Should Putin, or Xi, or the British Prime Minister be able to order the death of Americans simply by claiming they were responsible for the deaths of Russians, or Chinese, or British? Yes, or no, Nori.

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Oh, WTF. As long as you're answering questions, whaddya think about a war with Venezuela? Kick ass like we've done in all those little "shithole countries," as our Commander in Chief calls them, like Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan? Pushovers, right? Let's Make Amerik--oops, AmeriCa--Great Again by going to â€‹WARAnd with Comandante Espuelas de Hueso in the lead, what could go wrong!?!? 


11/05/25 06:03 AM #18593    

 

Jack Mallory

In case your copy didn't get delivered this morning, Nori . . . 



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Mamdani victory speech:

"Thank you, my friends. The sun may have set over our city this evening, but as Eugene Debs once said, 'I can see the dawn of a better day for humanity.'

"For as long as we can remember, the working people of New York have been told by the wealthy and the well-connected that power does not belong in their hands.

"Fingers bruised from lifting boxes on the warehouse floor, palms calloused from delivery bike handlebars, knuckles scarred with kitchen burns: These are not hands that have been allowed to hold power. And yet, over the last 12 months, you have dared to reach for something greater.

"Tonight, against all odds, we have grasped it. The future is in our hands. My friends, we have toppled a political dynasty . . . "
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/05/nyregion/mamdani-speech-transcript.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


As a long-time lefty and history buff, love a guy who gets Debs into the intro to his victory speech. And a slap in the chops for the Christian Nationalists! Thank you NYC.

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And:

“'It’s basically been every race. Governors. Mayors. Long-held [Republican] dog-catchers. School boards. Water boards. Flipped a dungeon master in a rural Iowa D&D club. State senators. State reps. A janitor in Duluth. State justices. Three [Republican] Uber drivers. Just everything.'"

https://open.substack.com/pub/heathercoxrichardson/p/november-4-2025-tuesday?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

 

Can't wait to hear what kind of Monster Raving Loony Party rant Boney goes into today! 


11/05/25 02:12 PM #18594    

 

Nora Skinker (Morton)

 

   Yikes! Jack, am so sorry to rile you up. Just thought you might like to share some Mamdani observations since Bernie Sanders endorsed him. But hey, no prob. 
   Meant to address Joan re the two survivors of the US boat bombing awhile back. It's my understanding that they were sent to their respective home countries (Columbia & Ecuador) to be prosecuted for drug trafficking & related crimes (which are illegal in both countries). Is there some other option you would have preferred? 
   

 


11/05/25 04:30 PM #18595    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

Yes, Nori, there are some other options I would have preferred. I would have preferred that those we capture had first entered our National waters, not been blown out of International waters, which is a crime. I would have preferred to have them tried in the US, where we would find out if they were indeed drug smugglers or even where they were heading. Could they have been heading to Trinidad, where the drug trade to Europe lives? We'll never know because the felon needs some explosions to brighten his day. I guess to some, it doesn't matter if we as a country are murdering innocent people or dangerous drug smugglers. Blow up first. Ask questions later.....except we're not even asking questions later.

Not in my name!

If the "Coasties" (I bet they love being called Nori's cutesy names) aren't doing their job, maybe we should find out why. If the real danger is the drug suppliers to our country, why don't we find and prosecute them? How useful is blowing up one tiny boat after another? Where is this stuff coming from? Oh, I forgot, the felon loves to brighten his day with explosions. Rooting out drug lords isn't as sexy for him. 

Furloughed workers not guaranteed back pay after shutdown, OMB claims

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/10/07/federal-workers-not-entitled-back-pay-after-shutdown-budget-office-says/

The White House says a 2019 law doesn’t guarantee retroactive pay, yet this law was created by Congress for the very purpose of ensuring that government workers would not be punished by "100% politics at it's [sic] worst." (Nori's words)

 


11/05/25 05:32 PM #18596    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

I agree with Joan. Nori the problem is you are believing Trumps lies. We don't know if the people on the boat are drug smugglers and  it's illegal to murder them as we are not at war with Venezuela  and they are in International waters.  I sent you links about the money allotted for the SNAP program that Trump refused to release.  You don't look at the link and just keep acting like we are trashing Trump. I can't support someone who is willing to let 40 million people go hungry including 16 million children.  Trump is ready to spend 20 billion instead got Argentina so he can get some payback. Take a look Nori on what is really going on. Love Joanie 


11/05/25 06:17 PM #18597    

 

Jack Mallory

Nori, I don't give enough of a flying foxtrot about your thinking to get riled up. But I think all Americans should get riled up about innocence until proven guilty, and about war. Clearly these are topics that do not  rile you up enough to answer my questions. Disappointing. 


11/06/25 05:22 AM #18598    

 

Jack Mallory

Give yourselves a treat! An HCR column, but containing much of the rest of the Mamdani victory speech. No way to know how his term as mayor will go, but it will at least be far more eloquent, inspirational, and unifying than anything ever to come out of Trump's mouth! 

 


11/07/25 12:18 PM #18599    

 

Nora Skinker (Morton)

    I usually interpret WTF and the use of exclamations as coming from one who may be riled up. My bad. The use of "foxtrot" is adorable, btw. For the record, I wish the young, inexperienced Mamdani the very best. 
    Joan, thanks for taking time to delve into the drug boat thing. I am getting the vibe that you want the handling of drug traffickers to be handled the way it was when there was a fraction of the numbers (of cartel members, victims, drugs, boats) & in a perfect world, Nancy Reagan once proclaimed "just say no", too. Obviously the band-aid flew off that wound long ago. Looking at the rising numbers, there comes a time when action must be such that it works as a deterrent. Trump has decided to take action in this WAR on drugs. Nobody here wants innocents to die. But drug lords do. China wants innocent Americans to die. Osama Bin Laden (though Saudi) wanted innocent Americans to die. Are you suggesting we should not have trusted our Intelligencia enough to take Bin Laden out? Should we only execute combatants when there is a declared war with China? Saudi Arabia? Venezuela? Or do we provide a deterrent with the hope that the numbers can be somewhat more manageable? Whether it's an illegal immigration which is too large to be manageable or a too-large illegal drug trade on our shores, providing a deterrent is key. I don't have as much a problem with these boat bombs as I do with the worry of another Bay of Pigs.  Btw, my two Coast Guard friends refer to themselves as "Coasties". Sorry if that little handle offended anyone. 
Oh, I thought rooting out drug lords (& other criminals) is exactly what ICE is doing. Sexy, isn't it? You can thank the previous administrations for that. 


11/07/25 01:33 PM #18600    

 

Jack Mallory

Ahhh, Nori, the euphemization of "deterrent." Such a bland, inoffensive, masking of reality. So easy to roll from the lips or fly off the fingers of those who have never seen deterrence in action. 

 

The deterrence Nori is referring to means paying people to kill people that other people claim are doing us harm. Killing them with high explosives, which blow them to pieces, large and small. They may die immediately, they may bleed out more slowly; perhaps they drown before they bleed to death. Nonetheless, it's so much easier to think of them as deterred rather than fragmented. Especially when there has been no, none, zero evidence proferred to justify those deaths. Oh, excuse me, except being told that those in the know, know. 
 

Nori paid me and countless others to deter communists in Vietnam. We deterred them with small arms fire, mortar fire, artillery, napalm, Agent Orange . . . They died in a nearly infinite variety of ways, with various portions of their anatomy blown off, brains terminally concussed, their lungs seared by flames, sometimes far more slowly through various AO related cancers, leukemia, diabetes . . . But just think deterrence, deterrence, deterrence; don't let the details concern you. Worked for years in Vietnam. And now Trump, Nori, and others who have never seen deterrence in action, never personally counted the bodies, or pieces of bodies, again use the euphemism.
 

Riled up? Yeah, you bet. Getting riled up because it's our government, our money, our moral responsibility. But WTF, if you don't know, you don't know; so you can sleep well at night. 

I'm thankful I get riled up. It reassures me my morals are still functioning. 
 


 

 


 


11/07/25 01:42 PM #18601    

 

Nora Skinker (Morton)

Perhaps the many...far too many...families who have lost loved ones to illegal drugs wish there were more deterrents? Hmm. 
Ok,  so now you ARE riled up? Nevermind, I can't keep up. 


11/07/25 02:18 PM #18602    

 

Jack Mallory

Nori, I wouldn't put words in the mouths of my family members or the multitude of others who have lost loved-ones to drugs. I will only speak for myself. Although I have lost a nephew to years of amphetamine addiction and ultimate overdose, I oppose killing people without evidence or any other form of due process. 

You are welcome to favor such killing, if those are your moral values. I wish there a way you could see that killing up closely enough to appreciate it in detail.


11/07/25 06:39 PM #18603    

 

Jack Mallory

Drugs and little or no due process create strange bedfellows: Trump, Islamic fundamentalists, and BCC grads!


 

"The number of executions in Saudi Arabia has soared as officials wage what they are calling a far-reaching “war on drugs . . . 

"The Saudi government has disclosed at least 320 executions so far this year . . . Saudi officials have argued that drug smugglers deserve harsh punishment because the crime is akin to a violent attack on their conservative Islamic society.

". . . low-income foreigners . . are disproportionately represented on death row."

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/07/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-executions-war-on-drugs.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


11/07/25 08:12 PM #18604    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Nori, again you are not checking the links we are sending you...Here is one from factcheck.org rated the highest in factual reporting and the least biased. Its about obliterating the boats in Venezuala...Please read this link. Also, you keep assuming that Trump and his crew are doing the right things. They are not.as if Trump was, he would have released the money allotted for the SNAP in the event of a government shutdown so people who get very little money for food, 10.00/day could get that. How can you think Trump is doing good when he would deny 40 million people payments during a shutdoown including 16 million children..Also as for the immigration policy Nori. they scoop up people most of which have no criminal records and separate them from their families...the ICE agents have thrown people to the ground even US citizens. They are taking away immigrants working hard for farmers and inductrial plants, etc. This is a very cruel regime. I would think if you checked these things out you would be outraged.  Love Joanie  Maybve you don't hear about this going on.   You don't realize that Trump is running a dictatorship, a fascist style government. Love, joanie

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/10/assessing-the-facts-and-legal-questions-about-the-u-s-strikes-on-alleged-drug-boats/


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