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Okay I'm only going to talk about this once because I get very upset...
Yes Jenny our justice system sucks the big one.
This is very personal and I don't like talking about it. Over 3 yrs ago on the news was my maiden name Kasprzak. My niece Krystal got involved with a bad group. She had argued with the father of her baby and took some bars because she was so upset (no excuse). She ended up robbing some people with the bad group. She didn't do the actual robbery, but she was there. The people that heard the media did not care they had her hung before she even went to court. What makes me mad is how several stations will give different info. They were not there. They don't know the full story. My 21yr old niece is in prison now away from her children. She missed her daughters 1st b-day and all the ones after and her sons. She got 9 yrs. I think she has been punished enough. I know of murderers and rapists who had less time. I'm not condoning her involvement. She should have a punishment. I just feel like her children are being punished by not having their mommy. I love my niece dearly she screwed up and deserves a second chance.

10/30/08 08:37 PM	#1511
Jenny Davis (Renault) How do harden criminals get out so early and people who commit white collar crimes crucified. I am really fed up with our news media. All I could say to this womens son( he is one of my escorts for the drill team) is if they could do that to your mother they can do it to anyone. To all my friends watch your backside.

10/30/08 08:56 PM

#1512

The media just wants a story no matter who it hurts. I hate the way they ask people how they are doing after a family member has been killed. I want to yell back "How the hell do you think they are doing?" I know this is a reporters job and they keep us informed on so many things but I just wish they would be a little more considerate.
Jenny, I'm sorry that happened. They are lucky to have you on their side.

10/30/08 08:57 PM	#1513
Jenny Davis (Renault) thanks. I just needed to vent. I already went of on channel 13 comment board. I'll probably get flack from that

10/30/08 10:08 PM

#1514

Man I lay across my bed and smooth passed out. I wake up to find complete turmoil. Since I don't see Houston news here, I'm going from the post that were made, and situations that I am aware of purtaining to the same type of subject matter.

The old saying is, "you are innocent until proven quilty" but the truth is you are, "guily until proven innocent". I've seen the same thing happen to people in the military. Things are taken out of context and you have people on trial for doing things in a war zone. Then of course you have the people here who are seeing just bits and peices and draw their own conclusion, before they have all the information. Let's take this back to a time and place we are all familiar with...HS! There are plenty of us who have done the exact same things that are are getting upset for others doing now, I'll explain. Granted what example I'm getting ready to use is totally different that the people were not being accused of murder or anything, but I think my point will get across.

We have all had situations where we have dealt with so and so had seen your boyfriend/girlfriend with someone else. How many times did we jump to the conclusion that they must have been fooling around with this person so automatically the girl they were with was quickly labeled a slut and everyone who was friends with you wanted to beat the girl's butt. The guy was pounded with 20 thousand questions as to why is was with this person and for whatever reason you took the side of the boyfriend. The girl was all of a sudden a slut and you hated her. There have also been situations were you may have dated several guys in the matter of a months time, but someone else does it and again they are labeled a whore, but the truth is you doing the exact same thing.

Our society has done the exact same thing for years, you are just now realizing it. Maybe some of us came to this reality sooner than other. I started dealing with the legal system at a very early age. I sperated from my first husband when I was only 23, and went into legal school when I was 24. By the time my divorce was finalized I was working in the legal system and saw some of this stuff happening years ago. Sometimes it really hard to stand back and be completely objective. Our nature causes us to choose sides quickly. You child and thier boyfriend/girlfriend break up, how quickly do you jump to take the side of your child, it is natural to do this,it's out protective nature to side with them. If you had the whole story it may be your child's fault, but would you side with the now ex? I've been put in the same situations regarding my girls and certain teachers. Sometimes it's hard to be objective and look at both sides before we make that decision. There is something to be said about the saying, "walk a mile in a man's shoes before you cast judgement" Jenny and Brenda, I know it might be hard to do this, but let's look at the other side of the coin. Jenny, if you didn't know the party involved with the drug charge, wouldn't you make the judgement that the last person who lived there was most likely guilty of the crime? In regards to the woman is there something on the records that if you didn't know the woman you might believe that she was trying to cover it up? Brenda, you said your niece should have been punished, but you are concerned about the kids that they are without their mom. If this was not your neice you might still feel compassion for the kids, but there are kids who do have to deal with the decisions of their parents everyday. Like the children who are without their parents because they chose to go out and hurt someone else and now that parent is in jail for that crime. I've seen cases where people have killed their spouse then ask the judge to be leanant because their children would be losing both parents. Are you kidding me? You got pissed off killed your husband then we are just suppose to let you walk free cause your children are now going to be without a mom and a dad? You are the one that took their dad away now you are the one who is also the reason they are losing their mom. We might get upset because the justice system is charging them with a crime we think they are innocent of, but if they didn't do anything then we would be pissed off cause they didn't do anything. There is also a saying "Damned if you do, and damned if you don't" I'm probably pissing a lot of people off by saying this, but I really do believe that we are not naturally objective and sometimes we lose sight of this.

10/30/08 11:18 PM

#1515

Look I'm gonna have a little note in my private life moment which some of you who truly know me already know but my father is a prisoner in TDCJ in Ellis for crimes against children. It took years to put him there and he received a 40 yr sentence which personally could never be long enough. I do love my dad I mean you can't change who your parents are. However he should have been locked up many years before he was. It is sad how People can do the things they do and then get such little time. My father has been in for 18 years now and has been eligble to be paroled for about 6 yrs now, I am not sure how often they get a parole reveiw but he asked my siblings and some family to write letters to the parole board in his favor in hopes he wuld get paroled. I actually wrote one begging them to keep him. The world is a safer place with him where he is and even as his daughter I realize this. I am only sharing this because I don't wanna give the idea: oh send them all to jail. Just to make a point some poeple are guilty and should be there and some people are innocent and get screwed. My dad....he needs to be there...it's a good place for him! It's unfortunate the injustices that Jenny's friends are going thru...and how do you rebuild your life after something like that????
I do believe some people are falsy accused these days because it is so easy to jump to the wrong conclusion but it's because of people like my father who are guilty and plead their innocence that make it harder for those that are wrongly accused. I think if you killed you spouse and it's obvious you did it....save our money. I am a bitch when it comes to justice. I belive in the death penalty and I don't think we use it enough!!! I don't care how much it cost to use it, if you are sentenced to death, which you must meet certain criteria to receive the death penalty, they don't sentence just anyone to death in the state of Texas, but dont spend 10 yrs worth of the tax payers money to house them. I know it may seem cruel but really you have to commit a really violent murder and pretty much there is no doubt in your guilt. Hell some people admit to it...I say set them up for the next day.... Well Like V I I hope that didn't piss to many people off. I just hope for the sake of Jenny's friends that justice is served and they find the truth. It's unfortunate the lengths that people and media will go to, to ruin a persons life...how do you even get a fair trial after that. And ya know my kids told me that a teacher at their school was dismissed as well as arrested for having a sexual relationship with a 17 yr old student. Ya know I would have never known had my children not told me. It's crazy!!!
And if any of you that don't believe in the death penalty wonder how I possibly can. Just ask yourself what you would expect to happen to a person if they harmed your child, your mother or anyone in your family and no punishment would be enough, and forgiveness, well it's good to have but there's never enough.
Good luck Jenny...you are a good friend to have!!! I will pray for your friends:) heck I can go complain on 13's website if ya want....maybe we all can:)

10/30/08 11:43 PM

#1516

Look I'm not mad. I understand what you said and its true but there are some innocent people behind bars and they are put through t total hell. My niece did a crime and she is paying for it dearly as she should be. All I stated was I think she has done enough for the crime that was committed. She is a good mother. She was always there for her kids. She just did a stupid thing which I'm sure we all have one time or another. If she committed murder or did some other kind of horrible crime I would still love her but I would say she is where she belongs. This is just how I feel.

10/31/08 12:28 AM

#1517

Brenda I agree there are people who are in jail who are innocent. They have been convicted on circumstantial evidence. Circumstantial evidence that might pertain to any number of individuals. Sometimes it does come down to just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I wasn't implying that she wasn't a good mother or person, I was just bring up the point that objectivity is a hard thing to have at times. I think there are some corrupt police officers out there that need to be behind bars as well, but they are allowed to remain because no one wants to face the truth of the matter. I also think that there is so much pressure on them as well to solve crimes or in justices in the world that just aren't easily done. As victims, we want someone to pay for the crime and we want it done now. The crime was committed by a person with blonde hair, blue eyes who used a .45 caliber pistol....well this person has blonde hair, blue eyes and owns a .45 caliber pistol so they must be the guilty party put them behind bars. That is why I say it's a "Damned if you do, and damned if you don't" situation. Not everyone is going to be pleased with the outcome. If you have someone convicted of a crime the family of the victim is happy because someone is paying for the crime (even if that person isn't the correct one). The family of the convicted isn't happy because their loved one is now going to jail. If the person who is being charged is found not guilty then that family is happy and the victim's family is upset, because no one is paying for the crime committed againist them. It's a never ending cycle. Our justice system has never been perfect. I don't care there is no such thing as "blind justice" There is no such thing as "innocent until proven guilty" otherwise if that was the case people would not be in jail until their trial. When someone is a suspect they are arrest on suspicion of whatever and they stay there until whatever time they determine no they are not the right person. However, in some cases if they don't do that then there is that chance that person will flee. I do not think there will ever be a perfect justice system. To many people in a hurry to see someone pay for crimes, no matter who it is. Like becky said there are too many people out there who have gotten away with crimes to the point that the ones who truly are innocent pay the consequence.

10/31/08 12:36 AM

#1518

Ok on a side note........

Rachel- we really do change subjects quick don't we? We will change subjects in a flash and get just as emotionally involved with the new one as we did the last one. I guess the important part is as long as we continue to view each subject matter as a diplomatic discussion of ideas and not take this person's or that person's comments as personal blows it's all good right? I really do hope that we can all do that. I think each person has their own valid points and well we are old now, we are suppose to have heart felt open discussions right? As long as we don't bring up politics! Sorry, but I was always told, you never discuss politics, religion or money.....LOL. Never fails discuss those subjects and someone is going to walk away pissed off and bloody....LOL.

10/31/08 12:52 AM

#1519

You are so right on that Bren...I wasn't trying to direct that to you at all. I totally get the "I'm gonna make you the example" situation. I was just throwing my 2 cents in...not to offend anyone or insinuate that your niece should be in there longer or anything. But just to say that every case is handle differently and you never know when you'll be the person that gets screwed. I only used my dad as an example to show a point where a hefty sentence was necessary and the system did provide that. What I should of included was that there was a situation that the system failed a child and then finally he received a hefty sentece on the last charge, but only because they were able to reference to the first instance. That would have equally showed both sides of the system and I left it out....sometimes I just ramble on and what's in my head doesn't always make it out to the message.

10/31/08 12:55 AM

#1520

So V...who'd you say you were voting for?????

Ok so I couldn't help myself:)LOL you know I love ya!!!!!

Plus now your guaranteed to call me back...which by the way sorry I missed your call...tonight is Junior High football, 2 games and I had to go pick kids up and then drive the extras home and Walmart for Taelyn's halloween party...all the good mom and aunt stuff:) but hey I am home now:)

10/31/08 07:31 AM	#1521
Deana Sampson (Jenkins) Ugh...I was gonna weigh in this moringin, but I have to take Shelby to school (you gotta see her costume she made with Beau) and I have to take Beau to take a test to get Hazmat endorsements and by a house that he has some work to do on. I'll catch up afterwhile. Love you guys...

10/31/08 09:01 AM

#1522

So freaking tired...baby up all night long...I swear sometimes I think the kid hates me:) School bus late this morning whcih only makes me yell at the bus barn lady when she tells me ya they are runnig late (the have a sub driver) but they were 2 sreets over from you 15 minutes ago and that my kids must have missed it. Finally when the bus came on my street I am like look the bus is just now here you could here the bus backing up in the cul de sac, thanks nevermind, whatever..... then the lady goes on to continue to tell me I am wrong about the bus and where it is. I was like can you not hear it????? Then they kick my neighbors son off because he has a skate board on the bus and he might beat someone up with it....there are several kids in this neighborhood that get on the bus with boards cause they skate afterschool at the church in town....she asks the original driver if he lets them take them, cause ya know that's not policy....and of course he says in the back ground, oh never...I am soooooooo very pissed. So I told the lady what I thought of her because I am cranky and over tired:( and then hung up and called the admin office and filed a complaint. I am sure my neighbors will do the same as we have the crappiest bus service there is.
It just aggravates me cause these boys that skate aren't causing problems or getting into trouble, they are skating at the church after school for crying out loud. Then the school wonders why after they have taken everything away from these kids why they get in to trouble????? GRRRRRRRR
Ok so now I am done venting for the day.....I am going back to bed:) and sleeping off my negativity:) Then I am gonna wake up and be happy:) Sounds good to me!!!

10/31/08 09:09 AM	#1523
Andrea C. Nieto Morning all ... Sheryl, thanks for asking, yes my kiddos' halloween birthday party went great ~ here are some pics :) ...

10/31/08 10:30 AM

#1524

Hello All!!!
Vicki- I'm not mad at you or Becky. I understand everything you said and I agree. Everyone is just giving their opinions. Freedom Of Speech. I'm not implying that either of you think Krystal is a bad mother. Those that don't know her don't know. V. you know her. Remember I only have 1 sibling. You hung out and drank coffee with her mom. I'm just telling what I saw and not because I'm her Aunt. Krystal actually took in a child not biologically hers. We consider him our family. He has been with us since he was a new born. He belonged to Krystal's friend who is no longer a friend. She never calls to check on him at all. He is now 6yr old. Krystal was 16yr old almost 17 when she got him. She didn't have to take on that responsibility but she did and he is now ours. My brother and sister-in-law are raising the kids now along with Krystal's mother-in-law and other family members. I'm just letting all of you know that in MY eyes Krystal is a very loving person who screwed up.
Bottom line is that I don't get mad at people that give their opinions.
Okay V... Who are ya voting for??? JJ. LOL.

10/31/08 10:32 AM	#1525
Brenda Kasprzak (Schelski) Andrea... Cool party. Love the pics and your little goblins are so cute. You did a great job on the party. Very creative.

10/31/08 11:19 AM	#1526
Brenda Kasprzak (Schelski) EVERYONE HAVE A HAPPY AND SAFE HALLOWEEN!!! Free Comments and Graphics

10/31/08 12:50 PM	#1527
Rebecca Atchison (Welch) Hope you all have a happy and safe Halloween. Andrea I love the pics!!! And Bren...much love and smiles to ya:)

10/31/08 01:12 PM

#1528

It's all good Bren, and OMG that krystal? Well on that note you have to bear with me, cause in my brain she still is not old enough to have kids! The last time I saw her she was still in Elementary school....never mind it was about 15 years ago. Kids are not suppose to grow up when you aren't looking.

Andrea-girl you have way to much time on your hands...LOL. Nice job though it looked great.

10/31/08 01:42 PM

#1529

Thanks Becky and V. Back at ya.
Yes V she is not a little girl anymore. I remember when she was little. I worked at Mervyn's in Greenspoint Mall. I would buy her the cutest outfits with my discount. She had that beautiful long wavy auburn hair and big brown eyes with long eyelashes that just made me melt. I'm tearing up just thinking about her. She is still just as beautiful now. I miss her so much.
Tears for my beautiful Krystal.

10/31/08 02:10 PM	#1530
Andrea C. Nieto Nope Vicki, I call it being a ~ And speaking of supermoms, Becky & Brenda, glad to hear your parties went great too and happy you liked my pics! And now tonight, a mini haunted walk thru for our little trick-or-treaters :)

10/31/08 02:33 PM

#1531

Deana Sampson (Jenkins)

I think our justice system is bad as well. Coming from a situation as a child being abused for years and noone helping me, I don't have much faith in it whatsoever. He is allowed to have children and do whatever he wants. Who knows if he is abusing his own children as well. THings like that, murder, victimizing...I draw the line at. I know there are people who mess up, make the wrong choices, with the wrong crowd and go down for someone worse than someone murdering someone. My brother hung out with a tough crowd...his friend picked him up to go to a party in a stolen car. My brother didn't know it was, and even if he did, who knows if that would have made a difference. They had beer in the car, were underage (he was 17 I think) and he went to jail for the stolen car, underage activity, etc..for 5 years..prison..Huntsville, I remember visiting him there. Right or wrong, fine give him his sentence, but educate him, rehabilitate him heavily..(I say him, but that's the only example of severe sentence that I have) but don't lock him away solid and forget him until it's time to turn him lose. We as people, as humans I think should do what we can to help each other find that right path. I do know also there are some you just can't help, but there are some you can. Don't get me started on the innocent being convicted...That makes me furious when people are tried in the press. Proof is proof, if guilty, it will be shown. Ya know? I get angry about the media reporting the way they do.

I feel for those who make mistakes, especially if they don't physically, purposely or accidentally hurt another human being. I believe our system does injustice to those who are guilty of non-violent type things as well. I saw a documentary of a foreign country just the other day where those jailed and serving time for things such as Krystal, are rehabilitated in a way where they hold jobs outside of the jail, but they report back there at the end of their rehabilitation/job time. I swear I think things like this should be tried because there are people who just make mistakes. I of course mean non violent things, you guys know what I mean by that...
I 'm sure we could all weigh in the same on that, or near it. I just think things aren't black and white in life, but our judicial system treats everything as so, unless you buy your innocence and freeedom. Let me do the things Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie, or Lindsay Lohan did..I certainly would still be in the slammer.

I feel for those who make the wrong choices, who are in the wrong place at the wrong time, those who given the second chance would honestly make better choices to live it differently, or not do it again. But when tried in the media..proven guilty though innocent..locked up, what else is there? Who of us wouldn't be broken after that? Who of us could handle knowing our mistakes have no way to restitute or learn from or do better by?
I think any of these things on even the worst of days, could happen to us easier than we think.

10/31/08 02:41 PM

#1532