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09/13/20 10:23 AM #444    

 

Michael Fagan

wtf i just read that George Von Pless has passed!!!!!   He will be missed by all !!!


09/13/20 04:05 PM #445    

 

Margaret Hewitt (Phinney)

George N. Von Pless September 4, 2020 George N. Von Pless, 68, of Kirkville, passed away Friday, September 4 at St. Joseph's Hospital. Born in Syracuse, he graduated from North Syracuse High School in 1970, received an AAS from SUNY Morrisville and a BS from the University of Georgia. He was the Multi-Family Housing Program Director for the USDA Rural Development for 31 years, retiring in 2008. A dedicated public servant, George sought to bring communities together and enrich rural communities. A larger than life person and avid sportsman, George was always in motion. He lettered in football and wrestling while in school. Later he joined the Syracuse Parks & Recreation Broomball League where he played for 30+ years. He also enjoyed playing hockey with the Gray Wolves, Mixed Doubles Bowling League and coed softball. He was also a member of the CNY Umpire Association where he was an umpire for several years. An outdoorsman, he also enjoyed fishing, hunting, bicycling and harness racing. George was a member of Clown Around Clowns and played a great Santa. He especially loved to share the joys of being a grandparent. He was predeceased by his parents, James and Mae Von Pless; and brother, Douglas Von Pless. He is survived by his wife of 13 years, Beverly (Bradish) Von Pless; daughter, Jody Von Pless of Syracuse; son, Nicholas Von Pless (Alana Harris) of Portland, OR; step-daughter, Desirae Goodspeed (Eric) of Massena; step-son, Trevor White (Rebekah) of Tega Cay, SC; brother, David Von Pless (Doreen) of Fairview Park, OH; nine grandchildren, Sophia, Delaney, Logan, Rory, Ava, Cheyenne, Milton, Emilee and Mason; several nieces, nephews and cousins; and grand-dog, Nooshi. Family and friends may call from 1:00 to 3:00 pm on Saturday, September 19 at R.H. Schepp & Son Minoa Chapel, 6530 Schepps Corners Rd., Minoa. A private service will follow the calling hours at 3:00 pm and may be viewed live at https://www.facebook.com/ScheppFamilyFuneralHomes In lieu of flowers, contributions may be made to the Eye Tumor Research Foundation, PO Box 832, Philadelphia, PA 19105 (www.etrf.org) or in support of Dr. Sato's research at Jefferson's Sidney Kimmel Cancer Center. Please make checks payable to Jefferson and include "in memory of George N. Von Pless" in the memo and mail to Jefferson Office of Institutional Advancement, 125 S. 9th St., Suite 600, Philadelphia, PA 19107 or online contributions at Jefferson.edu/Sato. For guest book, please visit: www.SCHEPPFAMILY.com


09/13/20 04:30 PM #446    

 

John Vincent

Truly a tough loss! RIP George.


09/14/20 08:17 AM #447    

 

Rod Henry

I remember George from Bessie B. Riordan elementary, sandlot football, baseball, you name it.  I'll see if I can dig out some of those older pictures later.

An all-around good guy.

R.I.P., George!


09/15/20 02:10 PM #448    

Bill LaRonde

Can't believe George has passed. I remember one time,( not sure of the dates) George and I went deer hunting in the north country, north of Utica with a couple other guys. I picked him up early in the am and off we went. Well when we got there George realized he had forgotten his boots. (snow on the ground)Not to be detered he wrapped some rags I had in the van around his feet and tapped them, looked like he was in Washington's Army at the Delaware. He hunted most of the day, but on the way back to the van we came to a stream that was several yards wide, which he couldn't get across. It wasnt but a couple inches deep so I had no problems with my boots. I was chosen to ferry him across on my back. Big mistake. George had to make some comment and bounced around as I carried him. I slipped and fell face first into the icy water. George was far more nimble then his size would lead you to believe. He pushed me further into the water and used me as a spring board to the other side. He was able to make it  with little water damage. Me not so lucky. As I defrosted in the truck, anger turned into laughter for the ride home.


09/16/20 03:30 PM #449    

Bill LaRonde

Lastly George was the type of person who would help you at anytime if he could. I had caught up with George for a quick meeting thanks to Mike Hancock, at I think  the Fayetteville Wegmans when I was in Syracuse one time. George gave me his phone number. A short time later my daughter was buying a home in NC financing it through a Federal Rual Mortgage program. I called George for information and HELP and he got right on it, explained everything to her and me. It was such a help. He went above and beyond and the transaction went very smoothly because of his assistence.  

RIP George!


09/18/20 10:56 AM #450    

 

Sam Anderson

We all hope not as well.😎

09/26/20 11:00 AM #451    

 

David Lukasiewicz

So sorry to hear about George. My early memories of him were from the Roxboro Jr. High marching band and gym classes. George was usually making jokes or pulling pranks and he always had my back on the travel bus and on the playground.
During the last class reunion I immediately recognized George's voice coming from Borio's patio area. As my wife & I walked towards the bar he looked over and without hesitation greeted me with a "Luke, how ya been doin'?".
It's sad that George has left us in such a short time span since then. And unfortunately I can personally relate to that terrible scenario as my wife Barbara also passed away this past June after courageously battling cancer the last 3 years.
I fully agree that 2020, and cancer, definately suck. Let's all hope like that old West Side Story song says: "Something's coming, something good. Something's coming, I don't know what it is, but it's gonna be great!
Stay safe & healthy everyone.


10/13/20 06:06 PM #452    

 

John Vincent

Let's hope that during our lifetime, great advances can be made in cancer treatment. It has touched us all!

Hope everyone is able to stay healthy and enjoy their lives.

Hang in there.....2021 is coming soon!


10/30/20 10:41 AM #453    

 

John Vincent

Three of my favorite singer songwriters have passed recently. 
RIP John Prine, Billy Joe Shaver and Jerry Jeff Walker!

I love their story telling and take on life. Lives well lived!

Hope everyone is staying healthy and enjoying life!

Fins up and buckle up! Only 10.5 months until 50 plus one Reunion!


10/30/20 10:43 AM #454    

 

John Vincent

Any good Halloween stories out there?


10/31/20 12:00 PM #455    

 

Jim Phillips

I lived in a Haunted Farm House while attending Community College in 1970. Does that count as a Halloween story?

I wrote about it on one of my web pages. It's 6 pages long if anyone is interested.

I can't find a way to post my PDF file or a link to my web page. I guess if you are interested, I'll need to send it to you.

Looks like I finally found a way to include a link....

https://surprise.forumotion.com/t10-cold-dark-night

 


10/31/20 01:33 PM #456    

 

Glenn Gartland

Good story Jim!!  Where did you go to Community College?  I attended Our Comedy College (OCC) until the military draft tapped me on the shoulder in 1971.....I think that may have been a similar calling for you.  BTW, who was Mike (your friend in high school - Cicero, I presume)/

Hope you and yours are staying well through the pandemic.


11/01/20 08:57 AM #457    

 

Rod Henry

That is a good one, Jim!


11/01/20 10:01 AM #458    

 

Jim Phillips

Hi Glenn. I don't know if you remember, but I was kind of a "one day at a time" guy. It was Mike Perkis that noticed I was rudderless. He persauded me to go to college. He got us both accepted to Thompkins Cortland Community College. It's now a nice campus in Cortland, but at the time it was an old high school building in Groton.

Being a small farming community, there wasn't much for housing. Somehow Mike managed to find an old farmer that was leaving to spend the winter with his son up north in Canton. Mike and I rented a huge farmhouse bedroom from him. Another bedroom was also rented out to Joe from a small town near by. The three of us had this whole farm to ourselves.

After the first couple of semesters, I decided that I didn't do well in a school enviroment. I needed adventure! Peacoats and Bell Bottom pants were very much in fashion, so I enlisted in the Navy to see the world. Part of that world was Subic Bay and Shit River....HaHaHa. I was there in 1972 and again in 1975. We may have both been there at the same time.

Mike and I got back in touch again a couple years after my discharge. We kept in touch, even after I returned to California. I stayed with him one night last year as I did my Jeep Trip cross country. (I'm still chasing those Adventures). We talk on the phone frequently these days. I guess it's our way of hanging onto our youth and fond memories.

You and Mike and Jim Tatura are the only people I remember from Cicero High. (and of course Nancy Schwartz). I'm surprised I even graduated. School sports and school in general, were just not my thing.

Eventually I ended up at Honeywell and spent a rewarding 29 years with them before they shipped my job to India. Consequently I was able to take an early retirement...WhaHoo...Adventure Time. The rest, like they say, is History.

My high school sweetheart, Paula, whom I met at my brief time at Corcoran High, still stands by my side with my heart in her hand, and encourages me to continue exploring. Aside from having to wear a mask in public, the pandemic hasn't had any adverse effects on us here in Surprise Arizona.

I hope all is well with you and yours Glenn. As always, if you ever get out this way, make our home your destination. I may even let you beat me at a game of chess.


11/02/20 12:44 PM #459    

 

Glenn Gartland

I remember Mike Perkis very well.  We didn't run around together much but he was a good guy.  As to your military service (thank you), I was a Clark Air Base from December, 1971 to April, 1974 so, we "crossed paths" sort of.  I actually played football on the base team and we did travel to other bases in the Far East (including Subic) so, I'm sure you saw us play (LOL).  The PI was a very big awakening for me.  The people were wonderful, especially when you travelled away from the influence of the bases.  I am still connected to my former roommate there who became a very good friend and lives in Jacksonville, FL now.  As to high school, for some reason I thought you lived in Hiller Heights, no?  In any case, I had to you connected in a small degree with Fred Snyder, who I ran with along with a shady crew including Tom Francis, Rick Visconti, Gary Rancier and a few others.

BTW, congratulations to you and Paula on your many years of marriage.  I married my wife about 1.5 years after my return to Wright Patterson AFB from the Philippines.

Anyway, thanks again for the story and your service.  You volunteered during a very intense time. I had to be nudged by my concern over possibly receiving a letter from Richard Nixon so, wa was more "voluntold".

Take care


11/02/20 04:25 PM #460    

 

John Vincent

Great story Jim! 
I think many of us started college to avoid the war. Thank you to both Glenn and you for your service!

I had no real intention on going to college right away but was blessed with a lottery number of 3! I went to two draft physicals and was asked to report back in one week or present a school deferment. I ended up going to Hudson Valley in Troy, NY for two years. Sometimes I almost wish I had enlisted. At the time I could not imagine  being sent to Southeast Asia. Great respect here for you guys that did!

I remember Halloween when we were kids! The neighborhood streets would be full of kids and all kinds of shenanigans! Eggs, toilet paper, firecrackers, smoke bombs and pillow cases full of candy! Not many parents were out and we all survived! 


11/03/20 09:26 AM #461    

 

Jim Phillips

Hi John.

Don't be too hard on yourself for not going into the service. Although it's a great way to find out "What you're made of", coming home back then I found my old buddies doing well in management positions in the local businesses and, having served in Vietnam, I was feared and rejected for any positions I applied for.. What's now known as PTSD, was at the time referred to as Shell Shock. It was believed that anyone that served in Vietnam would be triggered to Flashback episodes of violence at the sound of helicopters or loud bangs. It took me nine months to find a job. A furniture delivery truck driver.

It was 25 years later when someone at an Elk's Lodge thanked me for my service. I wanted so badly to be a war hero like so many of my uncles were that fought during WWll. Instead I had to be cautious about mentioning I served in Vietnam. Even to this day, when someone thanks me, I'm overcome with gratitude and I struggle to hold back tears.

I'm telling you this only to make you and our classmates aware. Combat Veterans of all our scirmishes carry wounds. Some wounds don't show. A simple Thank You can be healing. I appreciate a forum that allows me to bring attention to our Veterans.

John, you've done a great job with this Forum. Although I was late coming to Cicero High, I have some great memories of the days I didn't skip school..hahaha. I love reading the posts even though I don't remember most of the classmates from back then. I'm proud to be a 1970 Charter Class Graduate of Cicero high.


11/03/20 09:36 AM #462    

 

Jim Phillips

Hey Glenn,

I did live in Hiller Heights. Great memory my friend !!

Although Mike took me under his wing and became a lasting friend, Fred Snyder also lived in Hiller Heights and He had a CAR..!!! Fred was a lot of fun. He took me to some interesting parties...some of which I drank a little too much.

I remember the name Gary Rancier. I'm guessing he was one of the ZEUS guys. I remember hanging with the Zeus guys. I can't remember any of those guys I didn't like. I just wasn't a "Joiner" type of guy.

Keep in touch Glenn.


11/03/20 03:01 PM #463    

 

Sam Anderson

Hey Jim - Having been fortunate enough to have joined the service after college, I entered in the mid-70s when Nam was winding down.  Although it's not part of my dossier, I served with many for whom it was.  A fact that soon became obvious was that those ladies & gentlemen whose in-country actions spawned haunting, lifelong PTSD episodes were, through those actions, both heroes and subsequent victims of affiliated, enduring, mind torturing fallout.  This is why "Thank you for your service!" means so much more when spoken to those of you who saw action.  Thank you Jim!  Semper Fi - Regardless of the uniform, we are all one.


11/04/20 09:03 AM #464    

 

Jim Phillips

Thank you Sam Anderson, and thank you for your service. Thanks also to all the families of our Veterans. They also sacrificed.


11/04/20 10:21 AM #465    

Bill LaRonde

John I went to college several times ( couldnt seem to get it right) to avoid the draft. My luck ran out and Uncle Sam was about to call when I decided to take premptory action. I went down to every recruiter and placed my name on every reserve enlistment list I could find including the Coast Guard. How many even knew the Coast Guard had a reserve component. One week later as time was running out and I had decided to enlist in either the Navy or Air Force I got a call from the Coast Gurad recuriter telling me they had a reserve opening  and was I interested. I said yup. Then he tells me I had to leave in two days.(already had had a physical). By the end of the week I was in Cape May NJ. How I got that billet is beyond me, no bribes no connections devine intervention I think.. I have a hard time considering myself a veteran, besides being away from home for 179 days it wasnt much od a sacrifice. and I often think I should have gone active duty rather then trying to avoid SE Asia. 

 


11/05/20 11:06 PM #466    

 

Sam Anderson

Like now, It was a confusing time for our society, a ridiculous war effort from many perspectives and we were KIDS, thrown into the adult world, who did what we thought was best.  Guilt is the weight of learned tools we carry about to make the present days better.  No worries!


11/06/20 10:56 AM #467    

 

Donna Crump

In response to the several conversations about enrolling in college & serving in the armed forces I thank all of you that served. Reading them reminds me of what I was doing at the same time. One of our classmates Cindy Askew a very  good friend of mine asked me to go to the Air Force & Army or it may have been the Navy (so many years ago I can't remember) enlistment offices. Enlist together so I did but I knew before we went that I would be rejected. I won't pass the physical I told Cindy, I was automatically classified as a "handicap". Her response was "Lets try" . Well as you know I was right & neither of us enlisted. I don't think Cindy would have passed the physical either as she had really bad eyesight. Later on she was prescribed contact lenses. Guys don't be hard on yourselves for the decisions you made. 
I also worked at Upstate Medical Center for a couple years 1976 - 1978. Several of the Residents 1st year & 2nd year had gone to college & medical school for defernment from going in the service or being drafted. Several of the ones I worked with  agreed after they graduated completing their residencies to serve in the armed forces. I don't know what happened to them if they made a career in the service as a doctor or made it home safely but some of them came back to Syracuse to practice. 

Have a good day stay healthy

 

 


11/06/20 02:52 PM #468    

 

Rocky Capozzi

I haven't added much to this forum over the years but the current thread about service in the armed forces stirs a lot of different emotions in me.  I've spent most of my adult life thinking about these things. So, this is likely to be long and rambling.

First, it was absolutely reprehensible the way our returning Vietnam era veterans were treated by so many who should have known better.  Thank god today's citizenry generally honors all those who serve.  Of course, it's much easier to be kind when there is no draft and the scale of our conflicts are so much smaller.  So, as Sam said, it was a very confused country that heaped scorn on its warriors (kind of like blaming the victims - no?) rather than limiting it to our political leadership.

I was in a "different place" during the Vietnam era having reported to the Air Force Academy 7 days after NS graduation.  So too, did Ralph Terpolili and John Pennock from Cicero.  Anyhow, as first year cadets, we were required to wear our uniforms all the time -- even when we were traveling on leave or in town on a "pass."  The confused public even confronted cadets -- face to face and in other ways.  Like when they would come and disrupt our church services at the Academy chapel.  It made for good high visibility press.

Hmm the press. Part of the reason the public treated our veterans so badly was the narrative of the unhinged veteran created by the press and Hollywood.  So the public mind was manipulated in some sense by a slanted perspective.  The public was receptive because they were sick of a long war that seemed to be going nowhere. Still, that was no reason to treat our veterans badly.  

Sam pointed out that we were kids thrust into an adult world.  I would point out that it's never been different.  And I mean never.  It's always teenagers and 20 somethings that bear the brunt of war.  You all know the old saw, "Young men fight the wars that old men start."  I encourage anybody who has never done so, to walk through a military cemetary and read the dates on the tombstones.  

Sam also pointed out that the burdens of war aren't evenly shared.  Some small percentage of the participants come face to face with the horror of war and carry life long scars -- physical and emotional.  It's never been different.  Certainly, thanking those who've born that burden means a lot to them but it's also meaningful to those who simply interrupted their life for a few years to do their part.   Last summer, I delivered the eulogy for my 96 year old father-in-law.  He was drafted at 18 and retired 32 years later in 1974 having served during WWII, Korea and Vietnam.  Despite being an infantry officer, he never found himself in firefight.  Just the way things worked out.  Nevertheless, he certainly delighted in being thanked for his service.  I certainly respected him.

I know someone mentioned the sacrifice the families bear.  I couldn't agree more.  Although, they don't face physical danger the emotional wear and tear is real.  I never really understood what kind of emotional toll my line of work might have had on my family and parents and siblings.  I flew fighters for a good part of my career and also was required to jump out of perfectly good airplanes when I was attached to the 82nd Airborne as a forward air controller/battalion Air Liaison Officer for a brief (18 month) period.  Anyway, over the years,12 of my squadron mates died in training accidents (crashes).  That line of work caused me less anxiety than when my sons, son-in-law and daughter-in-law were being deployed to combat zones over the last 20 years.  At one point I had 3 of them deployed at the same time.  Both my sons have served 20 year careers and our country has been at war for all of those years.  My second oldest was deployed 5 times, Bosnia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq.  I'm relieved to say he'll be retiring in January.  

Anyhow, I'm not sure where all of this is going.  How about some personal opinions I've formed after having thought about this stuff deeply for many years?

1) There are many people in this world who do not share our values.  You can't change their value set through military action.

2)  The military is designed to fight and win wars.  When the fighting ends,  military forces aren't particularly effective at building civil societies.  They shouldn't be asked to.

3) You should never invade a country with the object of installing a democratic government where none existed before.  (see #1 above)

4) You should never kick in the door if you aren't willing to stay at least 50 years (see #3 above).  If you aren't willing to stay 50 years maybe the issues at stake don't justify an invasion and occupation.

5) The best way to avoid war is to be well prepared for war.  It's sad but it's true.

This has probably gone on long enough.  Veterans day is around the corner and to all you veterans out there, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.  Peace and love to you all.

 

 

 


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