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Gary Acker

Daniel Hutchinson

Gary, Ferron; this was from Jefferson: 

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

"Jefferson’s support of the French Revolution is emblematic of his attitude toward democracy. As we should remember from U.S. History class (or maybe from the musical Hamilton), Jefferson was born to wealthy parents but had great trust in the common man, whereas Alexander Hamilton was born a commoner but thought the common man foolish and untrustworthy. Therefore, Jefferson worried more of corruption among elites than of uprising and mob rule, and tended to support expanding the people’s role in government.

He expressed this view strongly in a 1787 letter to a diplomatic official in London:

[The motives of Shays’ Rebellion] were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed… What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is its natural manure. "

Jefferson very much wanted people to live by the rule of law and not anarchy.  But he also was very strong with his disdain for the government becoming tyranical.  

We had so many brilliant men who founded our country, it doesn't do the subject justice in such a few words.  My intent, is for all of us to go take a look at what these great men did, said and wrote about how our country should be governed - amazing stuff.  The original idea and ideals have been peverted to the point where we've become something unintended by them.

Karen Peterson (Belliston)

Dan, I would like to have your banana bread recipe; want to see if it's much different than mine. Please!

Daniel Hutchinson

Hi Karen -- albeit brief, it is nice to see you are here.

As for my Banana Nut Bread:  I don't use any secret recipe for it, I actually use the one from the Good House Keeping cook book.  I'm including here just for the heck of it.  What makes it special is the fact that "I MAKE IT"!  So often it's just easier to pick something up at the grocery store.  Most have excellent bakery departments.  I quite often am drawn to the 'diet' doughnut section.

I had to add the English to my recipe, since my cook book was all in Spanish -- of course most of you could figure it out anyway. I am usually generous with the nuts, I like lots nuts in most anything calling for them.  One thing I left off, was to cook it at 350 degs or 180 C.  (varies with ovens, but generally takes about 45 to 50 minutes) - just use a tooth pick or cake tester to make sure it's done in the center.

The Better Homes Cook Book calls for margarine, but I haven't used margarine for many years, since the formulation is only one molecule off from being plastic.  Butter is much nicer and more healthy.  If you want to test it, put some outside where you might find some ants,  the ants won't touch the margarine but will eat the butter -- that says something -- if it ain't good enough for the ants it ain't good enough for me.

P.S.  A couple hours later my wife corrected me; it wasn.t/isn't the Better Homes, rather it is the recipe out of the Betty Crocker Cook Book.  I have used both many times, and almost always add a tweek here and there, with ol' Dan's flare.

Thom Hurlburt

Dan, I don't remember seeing the radar dome you mentioned in the Fijiian Islands but I imagine it would have been on the largest island of Viti Levu where the capitol city of suva is located.  Fiji consists of an archipelago of more than 330 islands—of which about 110 are permanently inhabited—and more than 500 islets,  I spent most of my time near Nandi and Lautoka on Viti Levu and at the small island of Malolo Lai-Lai.  I also visited the Yasawa group and the Lau group both are beautifully primitive groups of islands in the Fiji archipelago.

Steve, the Shupe addition west of Wall Ave.  I lived on Ray street, I believe you did also.  We moved there in 1953  and the first kid to peddal up and introduce himself was David Spinden.

Farron, I think you lived there also and didn't yu have a brother named Asel?  I also remember Ken Frew, Dale Boswell, Geraldine Gladwell, The Folker kids, the Tibbets (I think they had about 10 kids, the only one I can recall is Betty)  and many others.  I recall Steve had a model A we used to take turns driving up and down West 7th street which was a dirt road in those days.

Ferron Wimmer

Thom , I didn't live in the shupe add. that was couzin. I lived on fifth st. By the way what took to Fiji ? I would love to dive there . I undrstand it's the graetest.

Karen Peterson (Belliston)

Thanks for the recipe, Dan. It's about the same as mine. I too like lots of nuts. See, I'd write more on this message forum if you'd talk about recipes more often, or what kind of sewing machine you have to make masks with.

Daniel Hutchinson

Good deal Karen, Let's start a cooking dialogue, perhaps we can attract more to participate.  I was goingto say 'ladies' to participate, but that would not only be sexist, but what would that say about me enjoying cooking, or some of the other guys who enjoy cooking.  I'll have to share sometime my excellent way of fixing home fries, which are a big hit for breakfast/brunch.

Gary Acker

Daniel Hutchinson

Well, Gary, if you're not burning the toast, you've got a good start!

Gary Acker

Ferron Wimmer

Gary , I have a really great recipe for meatloaf . I will send it later.  Yes I think we should trade recipes .I have a great one for chocolate oatmeal cookies I will share if anyone is intrested . I love to cook my favorits are New Mexican ,Cajon , and Some Spanish. It's great to hear from you all.

Gary Acker

Thom Hurlburt

Farron:  I posted an earlier note about sailing to FIji.  I spent several months there and unfortunately I was not a SCUBA diver then.  I did do a lot of snorkeling and it was spectacular.  Years after my South Pacific sailing adventure I became a PADI certified diver while vacationing in Belize.  I missed some great diving opportunities while sailing.  

I, too, am a golfer but I suck at it.  Doesn't matter, I really enjoy golf.  In fact I'm playing today.  I should have explained earlier that I'm in Arizona.  My wife and I have become "snowbirds" in our retirement or as we are referred to locally "Winter Visitors".  We spend our summers in Washington and our winters in Arizona.

Karen Peterson (Belliston)

Just so you know I'm still reading about you guys and your colorful lives (there was so much I didn't know about as to the parking lot activities at BLHS), I'm making banana bread today, using Dan's exact recipe. I'll let you know how it turns out. You are all so funny! And you've had some interesting experiences through the years! KB

Mary Mittelstaedt (Mittelstaedt)

Hey guys...I really get a kick of your adventures, your past accomplisments, and everything.....so good to know I really had a GREAT class...jani

Daniel Hutchinson

The list is growing, which makes me exceedingly glad.  It is so nice to see posts now from Mary (super Mary thank you for this), Karen (let us know how the banana nut bread turns out), Thom, Ferron, Gary, Steve -- now for the rest of you, don't be bashful (as Pete said when he opened this 'Forum' page 5-6 years ago).  If I recall Pete was able to open this communal message port, when I made a comment to the effect, wouldn't it be nice for all of us to post in one place and not just the individual profile pages.  Pete effected that change toot-sweet.  Pete you and Karen have always been so supportive with this site. Again, I want to thank all of you, it really adds some icing to the cake for this old guy.  Please keep telling us about yourselves, lets get to know one another.  May God bless each and every one of you.

Gary Acker

Ferron Wimmer

OK everyone I forgot to write down everyeones E-mail. Please give it to me again and that means you too Karen.Thank you all

Gary Acker

Gary Acker

Daniel Hutchinson

dhutch12337@yahoo.com

( the 12337 was my post office box in La Paz)

Karen Peterson (Belliston)

Hi Guys, Dan's banana bread recipe is great! We really liked it. I didn't have yogurt so substituted sour cream, and it worked deliciously. Will use that recipe again. Keep giving that bread to your neighbors, Dan, and you'll have lots of friends!

You want a little more conversation? Well, fortunately we haven't been affected by the Covid 19 stuff. We still winter in St. George and summer in Saratoga Springs, our main home. Pete likes to go boating and fishing on Utah Lake. He also likes to golf and just putter around, fixing things. We are going to Lake Powell next week. I like to sew masks (ha) --and other things, mainly quilts for grandkids. We go camping in our little camper van, and we like to go 4-wheeling. Sometimes Pete rides a 4-wheeler, and sometimes his motorcycle, but I always stick to the 4-wheeler. Fun to go exploring on all the trails in Utah's mountains!

I hope someone will put a 2022 class reunion together. 60 years and we're still kickin'! Anyway, I hope I'm still around then. Have fun, y'all. KB

Daniel Hutchinson

Thanks Karen, I'm glad you like the banana nut bread.  Jane and I bought house number 18 in this new development, and for the first 30 it was easy to give everyone the banana nut bread.  We're up to about 100 houses now, if I still had my bakery it would be a snap making bread in that volume, but as the neighbors have gotten further away, the bread has slowed down.

Hearing about what you guys are doing, enjoying, hobbies and excursions on the recreational vehicles is just the thing which makes this enjoyable.  I can imagine being with you and Pete on a four wheeler, enjoying the country side.  I had an ATV in Cochabamba, and loved it.  

When we were in Bangladesh, Jane along with several of the ladies in our Branch/Church group made beautiful baby quilts, to give to the poor families.  They were advised to sell the quilts at a good price, use the money to buy the poor the more traditional wool blankets they were accustomed to; otherwise they would take the nice baby quilt, sell it, use the money and leave the babies with nothing.  The ladies did that and provided a lot of woolen blankets to the poor.

We were given permission to pick out a family or families to provide a month's worth of food to, in lieu of paying a Fast Offering to the Church.  For those not members of the LDS Church, we are asked to fast, going without meals for about 24 hours (once a month), then donate the money it would have cost for the meals, in the form of a Fast Offering.  This is given to the Church officials to allocate in areas of most need.  When in Bangladesh, we would identify a family or two, buy enough rice, beans, bananas, milk and other staples to feed a family for a month.  We made these food donations through our house boy, to avoid being identified; otherwise we would have had 10,000 people at the door looking for a hand out.  A country like Bangladesh has so many poor, we soon found we couldn't give to everyone.  The poverty is really heart breaking to witness.

Daniel Hutchinson

A couple of quarantine funnies.

I thought you ladies would like this one?

OK, I'll leave you alone now!