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01/03/24 02:58 PM #16759    

 

Glen Hirose

A Special post for Jerry:

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Jerry will be missed. I hope he will see this.

Thank you Tom


01/03/24 03:03 PM #16760    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

SO sorry to hear about Jerry's death! It was only a couple weeks ago that he posted here! He will be missed. He was a thoughtful gentle commentator.


01/04/24 10:18 AM #16761    

 

Jay Shackford

(Sorry to hear about Jerry's passing. Below is a story that explains the growth of the national debt.). 

 

Donald Trump Build a National Debt so Big (even before the Pandemic) that it’ll weight down the Economy for years

The “King of Debt” promised to reduce the national debt — then his tax cuts made it surge, add in the pandemic, and he oversaw the third-biggest increase ($7.8 trillion) of any President

By ProPublica/ Jan. 14, 2021

(ProPublica is a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive our biggest stories as soon as they’re published.)

This story was co-published with The Washington Post.

One of President Donald Trump’s lesser known but profoundly damaging legacies will be the explosive rise in the national debt that occurred on his watch. The financial burden that he’s inflicted on our government will wreak havoc for decades, saddling our kids and grandkids with debt.

The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump’s time in office. That’s nearly twice as much as what Americans owe on student loans, car loans, credit cards and every other type of debt other than mortgages, combined, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It amounts to about $23,500 in new federal debt for every person in the country. 

 

 

The National Debt Increased Under Trump Despite His Promise to Reduce It

Daily total national debt from 2009 to present.

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Source: U.S. Treasury (Lena V. Groeger/ProPublica)

 

The growth in the annual deficit under Trump ranks as the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any U.S. presidential administration, according to a calculation by a leading Washington budget maven, Eugene Steuerle, co-founder of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. And unlike George W. Bush and Abraham Lincoln, who oversaw the larger relative increases in deficits, Trump did not launch two foreign conflicts or have to pay for a civil war.

Economists agree that we needed massive deficit spending during the COVID-19 crisis to ward off an economic cataclysm, but federal finances under Trump had become dire even before the pandemic. That happened even though the economy was booming and unemployment was at historically low levels. By the Trump administration’s own description, the pre-pandemic national debt level was already a “crisis” and a “grave threat.”

 

 

The combination of Trump’s 2017 tax cut and the lack of any serious spending restraint helped both the deficit and the debt soar. So when the once-in-a-lifetime viral disaster slammed our country and we threw more than $3 trillion into COVID-19-related stimulus, there was no longer any margin for error.

Our national debt has reached immense levels relative to our economy, nearly as high as it was at the end of World War II. But unlike 75 years ago, the massive financial overhang from Medicare and Social Security will make it dramatically more difficult to dig ourselves out of the debt ditch.

The Debt to GDP Ratio Is the Highest It's Been Since World War II

Federal debt held by the public as a percentage of gross domestic product since 1900.

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Source: Congressional Budget Office (Lena V. Groeger/ProPublica)

Falling deeper into the red is the opposite of what Trump, the self-styled “King of Debt,” said would happen if he became president. In a March 31, 2016, interview with Bob Woodward and Robert Costa of The Washington Post, Trump said he could pay down the national debt, then about $19 trillion, “over a period of eight years” by renegotiating trade deals and spurring economic growth.

After he took office, Trump predicted that economic growth created by the 2017 tax cut, combined with the proceeds from the tariffs he imposed on a wide range of goods from numerous countries, would help eliminate the budget deficit and let the U.S. begin to pay down its debt. On July 27, 2018, he told Sean Hannity of Fox News: “We have $21 trillion in debt. When this [the 2017 tax cut] really kicks in, we’ll start paying off that debt like it’s water.”

Nine days later, he tweeted, “Because of Tariffs we will be able to start paying down large amounts of the $21 trillion in debt that has been accumulated, much by the Obama Administration.”

That’s not how it played out. When Trump took office in January 2017, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office was projecting that federal budget deficits would be 2% to 3% of our gross domestic product during Trump’s term. Instead, the deficit reached nearly 4% of gross domestic product in 2018 and 4.6% in 2019.

There were multiple culprits. Trump’s tax cuts, especially the sharp reduction in the corporate tax rate to 21% from 35%, took a big bite out of federal revenue. The CBO estimated in 2018 that the tax cut would increase deficits by about $1.9 trillion over 11 years

Meanwhile, Trump’s claim that increased revenue from the tariffs would help eliminate (or at least reduce) our national debt hasn’t panned out. In 2018, Trump’s administration began hiking tariffs on aluminum, steel and many other products, launching what became a global trade war with China, the European Union and other countries.

The tariffs did bring in additional revenue. In fiscal 2019, they netted about $71 billion, up about $36 billion from President Barack Obama’s last year in office. But although $36 billion is a lot of money, it’s less than 1/750th of the national debt. That $36 billion could have covered a bit more than three weeks of interest on the national debt — that is, had Trump not unilaterally decided to send a chunk of the tariff revenue to farmers affected by his trade wars. Businesses that struggled as a result of the tariffs also paid fewer taxes, offsetting some of the increased tariff revenue.

By early 2019, the national debt had climbed to $22 trillion. Trump’s budget proposal for 2020 called it a “grave threat to our economic and societal prosperity” and asserted that the U.S. was experiencing a “national debt crisis.” However, that same budget proposal included substantial growth in the national debt.

By the end of 2019, the debt had risen to $23.2 trillion and more federal officials were sounding the alarm. “Not since World War II has the country seen deficits during times of low unemployment that are as large as those that we project — nor, in the past century, has it experienced large deficits for as long as we project,” Phillip Swagel, director of the CBO, said in January 2020.

Weeks later, COVID-19 erupted and made the financial situation far worse. As of Dec. 31, 2020, the national debt had jumped to $27.75 trillion, up 39% from $19.95 trillion when Trump was sworn in. The government ended its 2020 fiscal year with the portion of the national debt owed to investors, the metric favored by the CBO, at around 100% of GDP. The CBO had predicted less than a year earlier that it would take until 2030 to reach that approximate level of debt. Including the trillions owed to various governmental trust funds, the total debt is now about 130% of GDP.

Normally, this is where we’d give you Trump’s version of events. But we couldn’t get anyone to give us Trump’s side. Judd Deere, a White House spokesman, referred us to the Office of Management and Budget, which is a branch of the White House.

OMB didn’t respond to our requests. The Treasury directed us to comments made by OMB director Russell Vought in October, in which he predicted that as the pandemic eases and economic growth rebounds, the “fiscal picture” will improve. The OMB blamed legislators for deficits when Trump submitted his proposed 2021 budget: “Unfortunately, the Congress continues to reject any efforts to restrain spending. Instead, they have greatly contributed to the continued ballooning of Federal debt and deficits, putting the Nation’s fiscal future at risk.”

Still, the deficit growth under Trump has been historic. Steuerle, of the Tax Policy Center, has done a comparison of every American president using a metric called the “primary deficit.” It’s defined as the deficit minus interest costs, because interest is the only budget expense that presidents and Congress can’t control unless they want to do the unthinkable and default on the debt. Steuerle examined the records of 45 presidents to see how the primary deficit had shrunk or grown relative to the size of the economy between the first and final years of each president’s administration.

Trump had the third-biggest primary deficit growth, 5.2% of GDP, behind only George W. Bush (11.7%) and Abraham Lincoln (9.4%). Bush, of course, not only passed a big tax cut, as Trump has, but also launched two wars, which greatly inflated the defense budget. Lincoln had to pay for the Civil War. By contrast, Trump’s wars have been almost entirely of the political variety.

Our national debt is now at its highest level relative to our economy since the end of World War II. After the war ended, the extraordinary military expenses disappeared, a postwar recovery began and the debt began to fall rapidly relative to the size of the economy.

But that’s not going to happen this time. When World War II ended 75 years ago, Social Security was in its infancy and Medicare didn’t exist. Today, many of our biggest and most rapidly growing expenses, especially Social Security and Medicare, are baked into the budget because of our nation’s aging population. These outlays are slated to rise sharply. Steuerle recently calculated that Social Security, health care and interest costs are projected to absorb 122% of the total growth in federal revenues from 2019 to 2030.

What’s more, our investment in the future — things like research and development, education, infrastructure, workforce training and such — is declining as a proportion of the budget. OMB data shows that in 1970, mandatory spending (such as Social Security and Medicare, but not including interest on the debt) and investment each made up around 30% of total federal spending. But as of 2019, the most recent available year, mandatory spending had doubled to around 61% of total federal spending while investment fell by more than half, to around 12.5%.

Mandatory Spending Outstrips Investment in the Future

Mandatory and investment spending as a percentage of total U.S. government spending from 1970 to 2019. Mandatory (also known as nondiscretionary) spending includes programs such as Social Security and Medicare, while investment includes infrastructure, research and development, education and training.

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Source: Office of Management and Budget (Lena V. Groeger/ProPublica)

 

Spending more and more on past promises and shrinking the proportion of spending for the future doesn’t bode well for our kids and grandkids. Had Trump done what he said he’d do and paid off part of the national debt before COVID-19 struck rather than adding significantly to the debt, the situation would be considerably less dire. And had Trump done a better job of coping with COVID-19, the economic and human costs would’ve been greatly reduced.

In addition to forcing us to reduce the proportion of the budget spent on the future to help pay for the past, there’s a second reason that huge and growing budget deficits matter: interest costs.

Bigger debt ultimately means bigger interest costs, even in an era when the Federal Reserve has forced down Treasury rates to ultralow levels. The government’s interest cost (including interest paid to government trust funds) was around $523 billion in the 2020 fiscal year. That outstrips all spending on education, employment training, research and social services, Treasury data shows.

Interest costs are way below where they’d be if the Fed hadn’t forced rates down to try to stimulate the economy and mitigate the impact of the pandemic. One-year Treasury securities cost taxpayers a minuscule 0.10% in interest at year-end, down from 1.59% at the end of 2019. The 10-year Treasury rate was 0.93%, down from 1.92%.

In late December, the Fed reported boosting its Treasury holdings by more than $2 trillion from a year earlier. The increase is primarily in longer-term securities. That has kept the federal government from having to raise trillions of dollars in the capital markets, and therefore has kept longer-term interest rates way below where they would otherwise be.

But unless something changes, even the Fed’s promise to keep interest rates near current levels for several years won’t fend off future problems. Most of the government’s borrowing to fund pandemic relief has been shorter-term borrowing that will have to be refinanced in the coming years. If rates rise, so will the government’s interest expense.

Even with rates where they are, interest on the debt is already going to be the fastest-growing budget category this decade, according to the Peter G. Peterson Foundation, which tracks the issue. Annual net interest costs are projected to double in 10 years and grow so large beyond 2030 that interest will become a driving factor in annual deficit growth, according to Peterson estimates.

Listen to what CBO Director Swagel had to say on the subject in a report to congressional Republicans in December: “Although the current low interest rates indicate that the debt is manageable for now and that the United States is not facing an immediate fiscal crisis, in which interest rates abruptly escalated or other disruptions occurred, the risk and potential budgetary consequences of such a crisis become greater over time.”

Trump was asked about this risk during a virtual discussion with the Economic Club of New York last October. “If we have another stimulus bill out of Congress, are you worried that the entire amount of federal debt will be too large for us to pay off in a sensible way?” asked David Rubenstein, a private equity executive.

Trump answered by falsely claiming that the U.S. was starting to pay off the national debt before the pandemic, and he claimed that future economic growth would let it do so. “I think you’re going to see tremendous growth, David, and the growth is going to get it done,” Trump said.

Two months later, when Congress finally approved $900 billion of economic stimulus that is being financed with debt, Trump challenged Congress to spend — and borrow — even more. Then he went golfing.


01/04/24 04:02 PM #16762    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Glen, thanks for the yummy posts in honor of Jerry. He would love those. Love, Joanie

01/04/24 05:22 PM #16763    

 

Jack Mallory

Thanks, Jay, for the far more detailed follow-up to my follow-up to John's attack on the debt accumulated under Biden. I don't recall his attack on Trump's far greater increase, do you?

I am looking forward to his explanation of the connection between the national debt and socialism.

As I said the other day, most economists are skeptical about presidential control over the debt. But if someone wants to assign blame for debt increase, it's clear here that the debt has gone up a tad bit more under Republican administrations. 


https://kimgriest.medium.com/us-national-debt-republicans-vs-democrats-44ef6c7c0ec

The author of the article does a little arithmetic, demonstrates that the debt has gone up since 1960 by 9.7% under Republican presidents, 5.9% under Democrats. Not, actually, much difference. But if John needs to find creeping socialists in the White House, somehow more associated with a rising debt, looks like it's those pinkos in the GOP!

What say, John? Should we beware the rosey-red Republicans?

 


01/08/24 04:24 PM #16764    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

I got an editorial into the Washington Post today and thought you might want to read it. I hope that everyone is doing well. Love, Joanie

 

I really was turned off by Ruy Teixeira’s Jan. 4 op-ed, “Somehow we are stuck with Biden and Trump again.”We would be lucky to get President Biden again. He is the experienced president we desperately need for these difficult times. He got us through the worst of the pandemic and has us on a path to cleaner energy. He organized NATO to support Ukraine’s war with Russia and found a way for some student loan forgiveness

.Unemployment under Mr. Biden is the lowest in ages, and the economy is rebounding. He is supporting women’s reproductive rights and so much more. Mr. Teixeira criticizes Mr. Biden for moving to the left, but these policies don’t need a name, since they are just good for the country and our battle to preserve democracy. Yes, I agree that we will most likely be stuck with Donald Trump again as the GOP candidate. I’m sorry the Republicans are loyal to someone who wants retribution against his perceived enemies and tells how he will gut democracy by declaring he will be a dictator and hire only loyalists if he should win. He will drill, drill, drill and continue the fearmongering and cruel treatment of immigrants. This is the most important election of our lifetime. I’m so glad for Mr. Biden.

 
 

Joanie Grosfeld, Kensington


01/08/24 10:27 PM #16765    

 

Jay Shackford

Well done, Joanie.!t's not easy to get a letter-to-the-editor published in the Washington Post.


01/09/24 03:36 PM #16766    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

Bravo Joanie! not just for the content of your letter but also for the feat of getting it published, which as Jay says is no easy task!


01/09/24 03:45 PM #16767    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Thanks Jay and Joan for your nice thoughts that I got in. Love, Joanie


01/09/24 04:37 PM #16768    

 

Jack Mallory

Yes, congratulations Joanie--writing for the WaPo! You'll be one of the first arrested under the new regime!

 

Here's a shot of Tasca, after her New Year's Day polar plunge. January 1, no ice on the Contoocook; first day after the hottest year ever recorded.


 


01/09/24 06:29 PM #16769    

 

Robert Hall

Congratulations Joanie for getting your thoughts out to an even wider audience than the B-CC Forum!

01/09/24 09:56 PM #16770    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Thanks Jack and Ron and others who already congratulated me. Wow, seeing Trump with that dramatic kick could be directed at me now. Help...all my BCC friends will have to rescue me!!!   Love to everyone. Joanie
 


01/10/24 11:32 AM #16771    

 

Jack Mallory

Actually, the likelihood of Trump being able to deliver a kick like that is just about 0! Kind of like imagining him in a kayak. 


01/10/24 04:31 PM #16772    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

You are right Jack. I don't think Trump could do that high kick or even a low kick. It would be nice to imagine him on a kayak that is heading for Russia. Love, Joanie


01/10/24 05:56 PM #16773    

 

Glen Hirose

    Congratulations Joanie!

        Know Your GBBS History: Tart Week | Telly Visions

    You are officially the only person I know that has had a WaPo published editorial.

              Shall we have a slice of fruit tart to celebrate?

 

 


01/10/24 07:46 PM #16774    

 

Jay Shackford

Jan. 10, 2024/7:30 pm EST

 

Fit or Unfit

 

If I were producing tonight’s debate on CNN, the first question for both candidates would be:

 

“Chris Christy dropped out of the race earlier this evening, repeating, among other things, that Donald Trump was unfit and unworthy to serve as President and that any GOP presidential candidate who thought otherwise was ‘unfit’ as well. My question is this: Do you believe that Donald Trump — with all his legal troubles, including the indictments from the January 6th insurrection at the U.S. Capitol — is fit to serve as President of the United States?”

 

Both candidates, of course, will dodge the question.  Gov. Ron DeSantis will say that that was a decision for the American people — not him — to make.  Nikki Haley will argue that it is time for a “new generation” of leadership and that she was “fitter” than Trump to win the GOP nomination and beat Joe Biden in the general election. 


01/10/24 09:18 PM #16775    

 

Janet Lowry (Deal)

Joanie, I just wish that I had been casually reading the Post, happened upon your letter, seen your name at the bottom and realized WOW! I'm proud to know that lady! I've known for years that she has strong opinions and expresses them well, so glad to still be here and see her words put to such a wide audience! Well done!

01/11/24 07:35 AM #16776    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Oh my Glen you are so kind to post that wonderful congratulatory tart with such yummy looking fruit that I got into the Post...thank you. Loved your congrats and those of all my wonderful BCC friends including Janet's post today. Janet, thank you for your kind words about my article and about me too. Love you all, Joanie


01/14/24 12:59 PM #16777    

 

Jack Mallory


01/15/24 03:54 PM #16778    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Jack, this post really makes the point, so Trumpian. It seems the MAGAS like the most outrageous things he does and since everything he does is outrageous, they adore him. I heard him say last night that Iowans need to go out in the sub zero weather to vote for him. It's so important he said and then they can PASS AWAY . Love, Joanie

01/16/24 05:16 PM #16779    

 

Jay Shackford

 

Get the Numbers Straight/What Does Haley Have to Lose

By Dead-Center Shacks

 

Before we get carried away or scared shitless by Donald Trump’s victory in the GOP Iowa Caucus last night, let’s put the vote totals in perspective.

 

Trump won 51% of the 108,000 Republican votes cast, which was the lowest voter turnout in decades, according to the Wall Street Journal. Trump’s 51% victory represents 14.4% of the 752,000 registered Republicans in the Hawkeye State. To put it another way, Trump came in first, winning 14.4% of the state’s registered Republicans. In my view, that sounds more like a snowball rolling down a hill than an avalanche on a ski slope.     

 

In contrast, 187,000 Republicans voted in the 2016 GOP Iowa Caucus. In 2008 and 2012 general elections, Barack Obama swept Iowa with wins over John McCain and Mitt Romney, respectively, which appears to clash with the notion that Iowa is strictly a conservative Republican state. 

 

Besides that, who is more likely and crazy enough to go out in subzero temperatures where your spit freezes before it hits the ground.  (My son, Nick, told me that “spit story” from his days coaching junior hockey in Alaska where his Kenai River Brown Bears played a Fairbanks team a couple of times every year in -30 degree weather.)

 

Just the true believers who braved the killer cold.  That’s who voted for Trump — the hardliners, the guys and gals who feel guilty for missing the January 6th insurrection, the GOP voters who believe they’ve been left behind and displaced by illegal immigrants and that only Donald Trump can save America from ruin. Forget the fact that Iowa needs migrant labor to tend and harvest the state’s bumper crops year after year.   

 

So you take all those other polls coming out of Iowa and, as they say in the back woods of America, shove them where the light don’t shine. For example, nearly two thirds of the Iowa voters still believe that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump. That’s really two thirds of the 14.4% of 752,000 registered Republicans in the state.  Or the poll showing that the majority of Iowa Republicans would still vote for Trump even if he were convicted on one or more of the 91 felony counts he’s facing.  That poll is BS too.  

 

Honestly, I was a little disappointed with Nikki Haley’s showing. Not that I’ve jumped shipped and gone over to the other side, but I still believe in the two party system and the indisputable fact that Haley is much more of a traditional conservative Republican who believes in a strong national defense, lower taxes and a generally smaller government.  Compare her stand on supporting Ukraine with military aid in its war against Putin to Ron DeSantis, who appears to be an isolationist and a “Trump light” character with a good crop of hair who happens to be a dumb ass as well.  

 

Despite her shortcomings, I’m still rooting for Haley in New Hampshire. Remember, in the 2008, 2012 and 2016 Iowa caucuses, the GOP winners were long gone before or shortly after Super Tuesday.   Trump actually finished second in the Iowa caucus in 2016,  

 

Haley could win New Hampshire and do well enough in her home state of South Carolina to give Trump a competitive race.  But to do that she needs to take on Trump on the question of “character” and whether he is “fit” to serve again as President of the United States.  What does she have to lose?  That is the question.  

 

 

 

 


01/16/24 07:03 PM #16780    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Jay, your post was very interesting. I understand too your thinking on Haley. It's that we have so little choices for the Republican party to have some semblance of its old self that at least Haley is strong on defense and wouldn't coddle Putin. I just find her a big disappointment anyway as she is willing to sell her soul to get votes...the slavery comment was ridiculous asking the questioner...so what do you want to say about slavery? Then he said, you already answered my question...she was one who also raised her hand to say that if Trump were the nominee she would vote for him even if he was convicted. I think she also said she would consider pardoning him. Oh well, I guess if we set the bar kind of low, she is at least better then Desantis and Trump. She sounds mean on immigration too so I just hope so much that Biden will beat whoever it is but the most dangerous one to beat would be Trump who we know would gut democracy and be seeking retribution as one of his main goals. Love, Joanie


01/16/24 08:32 PM #16781    

 

Jack Mallory

Thanks for clarifying the stats, Jay. That's a very valuable perspective. 
 

Deb and I had actually both, separately, considered a quick registration change so we could vote Haley in the NH primary. But I'm concerned that a weak Biden showing in the primary, where he's not entered because of the silly hissy-fit around NH's loss of its traditional first in the nation primary, will hurt his chances in the general election. To vote for Biden you have to write him in, and I fear the turn-out will be weak. 

***********

As we get deeper into a potentially grim election year, I'll try and post the occasional diverting, apolitical pic. 
 

Today on my woods walk, as the snow fell, I met this cutie. 
 

 

We need a third dog like we need a president Trump, but if he'd been available I'd a brought him home in a heartbeat!
 


01/16/24 09:52 PM #16782    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Jack, that's a really cute dog. I can see why you would want to take that dog home.  My daughter has a boston terrier who is such a love bug. I feel less stress around him. Love, Joanie


01/17/24 01:31 AM #16783    

 

Stephen Hatchett

Oh, man, I love that dog pic, Jack.  The dog's expression: "Hah, I'm warm and you're not.", or, "Get that camera out of my face.", or, most likely, something a mere human cannot imagine. 


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