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06/29/24 03:02 PM #17161    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

We are discussing Trump because he is the other candidate running. The American people have a choice to make and I'll cast my lot with Biden any day over Trump. Nori if the discussion is about cognitive ability, why aren't you discussing Trump's rambling comments saying if he is in a boat and had to choose between electrocution and sharks and he would pick electrocution. Love, Joanie

06/29/24 03:28 PM #17162    

 

Nora Skinker (Morton)

I am not speaking of Trump, Joanie,  because my point was that Joe Biden displayed to the world that his cognitive abilities are not where they need to be in order to be Leader of the Free World.  Mr. Friedman pointed that out in his thoughtful piece and I was affirming it.  For Biden to retain his legacy/dignity, he should step down from a harrowing presidential campaign and be replaced, while there is time.  My agreement with the article had nothing to do with my policy views, period. I would feel duped, regardless of who the candidate was or is. Apparently a vegetable is better than Trump, according to Jack.  I disagree. Two healthy, albeit disagreeing, candidates should be what we all want. And what we all deserve.


06/29/24 04:32 PM #17163    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Ok we just see things differently Nori. I'm not worried about Biden being President. He has great policies and has done great things for this country including bipartisan legislation. for infrastructure and the chips act . If something were to happen to him, Kamala is competent and can step in. I'm terrified of a Trump presidency.. Sounds like you don't want to discuss the dangers of Trump Nori. . Love, Joanie

06/29/24 04:33 PM #17164    

 

Jack Mallory

A vegetable that wants to preserve, protect  and defend the Constitution, or Bone Spurs?

 

THE VEGETABLE, FER CRISSAKE!

A tapeworm that wants to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, or Trump?

A barnacle?

A liverwort?

A slime mold?

 

ANY LIVING BEING THAT VALUES THE CONSTITUTION RATHER THAN TRUMP!

 


06/29/24 05:14 PM #17165    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Biden is not a vegetable. He will prove you all wrong.
Love, Joanie

06/29/24 06:07 PM #17166    

 

Jay Shackford

As I noted more than a year ago, nobody over the age of 65 should run for President. That would disqualify both Biden and Trump.

Nori, Trump is not only old but he's also Hitler-like evil. Biden, on the other hand, is a good guy and, all things considered, has an impressive record running the country as president. But I'm happy to see you posting again -- adding a fresh perspective to an otherwise boring chorus of views that all sound the same. 


06/29/24 09:13 PM #17167    

 

Stephen Hatchett

Trump has simply said, several times and in several ways, that if elected, after he takes the oath of office, "to preserve, protect, and defend the Consitution of the United States", he won't; he will nullify it.  Then what.


06/29/24 10:30 PM #17168    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Yes, that is why we are bringing up Trump. Its because he will do everything to destroy Democracy. He is a clear and present danger. Love, Joanie


06/30/24 10:22 AM #17169    

 

Jack Mallory

In November we may have two choices: one will probably be a convicted felon and rapist, a man who who threatens to "terminate" the Constitution and who lies quickly and often. The other may be a lifelong public servant who is reasonably accurate and honest in what he says, although he may say it haltingly and I sometimes deeply disagree with his policies. 

Not for the first time in my life, I'll vote for a candidate who despite his flaws doesn't threaten the Constitution and who seems far more honest than his opponent. 
 

Eddie, or Edith, the eagle sez, "How about you, Nori?"


06/30/24 11:33 AM #17170    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

I second it Jack. The choice is clear. It's hard to understand why so many support a convicted felon and pathological liar. Well, that's the problem, they believe the lies. I pray Biden will win. He is the one who will continue our democratic way of life. Love, Joanie

06/30/24 02:04 PM #17171    

 

Jay Shackford

This Isn’t All Joe Biden’s Fault

By Ezra Klein

Opinion Columnist/The New York Times

June 30,2024

 

On Thursday night, after the first presidential debate, MSNBC’s Alex Wagner interviewed Gov. Gavin Newsom of California. “You were out there getting a chorus of questions about whether Biden should step down,” she said. “There is a panic that has set in.”

Newsom’s reply was dismissive. “We gotta have the back of this president,” he said. “You don’t turn your back because of one performance. What kind of party does that?”

Perhaps a party that wants to win? Or a party that wants to nominate a candidate that the American people believe is up to the job? Maybe the better question is: What kind of party would do nothing right now?

In February, I argued that President Biden should step aside in the 2024 election and Democrats should do what political parties did in presidential elections until the 1970s: choose a ticket at their convention. In public, the backlash I got from top Democrats was fierce. I was a bed-wetter living in an Aaron Sorkin fantasyland.

 

In private, the feedback was more thoughtful and frightened. No one tried to convince me that Biden was a strong candidate. They argued instead that he couldn’t be persuaded to step aside, that even if he could, Vice President Kamala Harris would lose the election and that if a convention didn’t choose Harris, passing her over would fracture the party. They argued not that Biden was strong but that the Democratic Party was weak.

I think Democrats should give themselves a little bit more credit. Biden’s presidency is proof of the Democratic Party’s ability to act strategically. He didn’t win the Democratic nomination in 2020 because he set the hearts of party activists aflame. Support for him always lacked the passion of support for Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren or even Andrew Yang. Biden won because the party made a cold decision to unite around the candidate it thought was best suited to beating Donald Trump. Biden won because Democrats did what they had to do, not what they wanted to do.

And it wasn’t just Biden. While the Republican Party collapsed into its MAGA era, repeatedly choosing wannabe Trumps who lost winnable elections, Democrats kept choosing candidates who could win tough races in challenging states: Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan, Tony Evers in Wisconsin, Josh Shapiro and John Fetterman in Pennsylvania, Mark Kelly and Katie Hobbs in Arizona, Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock in Georgia. Since 2018, Democrats have been on a winning streak because they have acted strategically while Republicans have acted impulsively. But the same Democrats had no confidence that they could rise to the moment if Biden stepped aside.

I sometimes asked the Democrats I was talking to what they thought would happen if, in a terrible turn of events, Biden received health news that forced him to end his campaign. Would the Democratic Party collapse into a fetal position and accept Trump’s ascension? Of course not, they said. Then Democrats would have no choice but to build a ticket at the convention. I always found that answer revealing.

There is no lack of talent or capacity in the Democratic Party. But there is a lack of coherence and confidence. What is the party for? Newsom’s comments on Thursday implied that the party’s function was to support Biden. “We gotta have the back of this president.” Newsom said that the criticism of Biden was not unfounded, just “unhelpful.” A more astonishing statement came from Tim Walz, the governor of Minnesota. “I think we could learn something from Republicans,” he told Fox News. “Republicans will not abandon Donald Trump through indictments, through whatever it may be.”

 

Do Democrats really want to follow the model of the Trump-era Republican Party? Republicans lost in 2018 and 2020 and badly underperformed in 2022. In March, Lara Trump was elected co-chair of the Republican National Committee. She is, from the traditional party perspective, completely unqualified for the job.

 

But if you view the committee as a vehicle for the ambitions and whims of Donald Trump, her father-in-law, then she is wholly qualified. She is loyal to nothing and no one in the party except Donald Trump, and she is clear on the role the committee should play. She said, “Every single penny will go to the No. 1, and the only job of the R.N.C. — that is electing Donald J. Trump as president of the United States and saving this country.”

This is a corruption of the concept of a political party. In “The Hollow Parties: The Many Pasts and Disordered Present of American Party Politics,” Sam Rosenfeld and Daniel Schlozman tell the history of how the strong parties of yesterday have become the hollowed-out vehicles for presidential ambition we see today. The ethos of the early American political parties was that they were a bulwark against politics becoming about one person. “The idea,” Rosenfeld told me, was “that parties subsume individual ambition, that you commit to the party and to the cause, never to the man.”

Parties lived up to this imperfectly, but at key moments, they did live up to it. Famously, it was a delegation of Republican members of Congress who persuaded President Richard Nixon to resign. There was more to the Republican Party than Nixon’s ambitions. There is not more to the Republican Party today than Trump’s ambitions. I would have told you that the Democratic Party was different, that it was not just a vehicle for Biden’s ambitions. Now I’m not so sure.

The best case against replacing Biden is that doing so at this late hour would be riskier than keeping him. But that is a choice the Democratic Party made.

 

It was a choice to support Biden in running for re-election, despite poll after poll showing supermajorities of the American people thought he was too old to serve a second term.

It was a choice, if an understandable one, for zero major Democrats to run against him in the primaries, even as polls showed majorities of Democratic voters didn’t want Biden to run again.

It was a choice, if top Democrats and the White House believed Harris too weak to run or govern in Biden’s place, to do nothing about it.

Democrats have spent all this time choosing to do nothing to solve the most obvious problems they faced in 2024, and now the argument is that there is nothing they can do; it’s too late. Now to even admit these problems is “unhelpful.”

Even if top Democrats believe Biden should be replaced, they face a collective action problem. Imagine you’re Newsom. You want to run in 2028. If Biden drops out, you want to be considered in 2024. Is the best strategy for you to try to push Biden out of the race publicly? Or is it to be the most loyal of loyal soldiers so that if Biden leaves or loses, you have a strong bond with his donors, his team and his supporters? And who wants to be the member of Biden’s inner circle who goes to him and says: You’re not up to this anymore. What happens to your role in the White House the day after? It doesn’t serve any individual Democrat’s interest to oppose Biden.

 

The argument Democrats have made is that Biden has lost a step on the campaign trail but his capacity to govern is unaffected, that the problem is superficial. This is Biden’s line. “I know I’m not a young man,” he said on Friday. “I don’t walk as easily as I used to. I don’t speak as smoothly as I used to. I don’t debate as well as I used to. But I know what I do know. I know how to tell the truth. I know right from wrong. And I know how to do this job. I know how to get things done.”

Biden’s speech calmed some Democratic nerves. He was louder, clearer, feistier. Closer to the Biden of the State of the Union than the Biden of the debate. Democrats asked: Where was this guy? Come on. It is easier to read off a teleprompter than to manage the chaotic, unexpected demands of a debate. You cannot say that the Biden of the teleprompter is a true reflection of the man but that the Biden of this debate answer is not:

For example, we have a thousand trillionaires in America — I mean, billionaires in America. And what’s happening? They’re in a situation where they, in fact, pay 8.2 percent in taxes. If they just paid 24 percent or 25 percent, either one of those numbers, they’d raised 500 million dollars — billion dollars, I should say — in a 10-year period. We’d be able to wipe out his debt. We’d be able to help make sure that all those things we need to do — child care, elder care, making sure that we continue to strengthen our health care system, making sure that we’re able to make every single, solitary person eligible for what I’ve been able to do with the — with, with, with the Covid. Excuse me, with dealing with everything we have to do with — look, if — we finally beat Medicare.

 

You don’t have to believe Biden is senile to believe he is diminished by age, as we all will be. I worry about the fact that his worst moments come when he is unscripted, like in the debate, or when he stopped to answer questions after his news conference rebutting the special counsel’s report and mixed up Mexico and Egypt. I worry that people around Biden tell me they were unsurprised by his performance, that they have seen him like that many times. This is not the president I want in a pressured, high-stakes dialogue with Benjamin Netanyahu or Xi Jinping.

Biden’s campaign could show us these are flukes, that the president is fast and convincing on his feet. There is no end of adversarial podcasts and TV shows and interviews they could have him do. In polls, he is losing badly among voters who get their news from social media and YouTube. Why not sit for a long interview with Lex Fridman or Joe Rogan or Charlamagne tha God? Why didn’t Biden do the Super Bowl interview? Biden sits for fewer interviews than any other recent president. He gives fewer news conferences than any other recent president. The idea that this is all just coincidence, that none of it reflects capacity, isn’t plausible. Not anymore.

I have heard some Democrats point to Fetterman, who suffered a debilitating stroke during his Senate campaign, as a kind of grim model. He also turned in a bad debate performance, but he won his seat anyway. But he was recovering from a stroke. It was reasonable to expect his capacities to return, as indeed they have. Biden will not age in reverse.

What do political parties do? One thing they do — perhaps the most important thing they do — is nominate candidates. We have a two-party system. Voters will have two viable options in November. The Democratic Party is responsible for one of those options. It needs to make that choice responsibly. What is its job if not that?

 

But rather than act as a check on Biden’s decisions and ambitions, the party has become an enabler of them. An enforcer of them. It is giving the American people an option they do not want and then threatening them with the end of democracy if they do not take it. Democrats like to say that democracy is on the ballot. But it isn’t. Biden is on the ballot. There are plenty of voters who might want to vote for democracy but do not want to vote for Biden. That’s why we see Democratic Senate candidates running well ahead of him in key states.

Biden likes to say: “Don’t compare me to the Almighty. Compare me to the alternative.” And yes, Biden is preferable to Trump, one of the most dangerous men to ever occupy the White House. But the alternatives to Biden, right now, are Harris and Whitmer and Newsom and Warnock and Shapiro and Jared Polis and Cory Booker and Amy Klobuchar and Pete Buttigieg and Gina Raimondo and Chris Murphy and on and on. How does Biden compare with them, really?

Biden says not to look at the man; look at the record. Look at the unemployment rate, the Inflation Reduction Act. He has been a good president. But he did not write the Inflation Reduction Act by hand with a fountain pen. It and every other bill passed under his tenure was written and passed by members of Congress. Those votes were organized by Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and Hakeem Jeffries. Biden’s White House staff — his policy advisers and his foreign policy team — they’re Democrats. The cabinet members carrying out those bills are Democrats, and some of them are potential presidential candidates. The president is important, but he is not alone. He is part of a party.

I’m not going to end this by pretending that there is some easy path forward for Democrats. No path now is without risk. An open convention would be a risk. Nominating Harris would be a risk. To run an 81-year-old with a 38 percent approval rating who just got trounced in the first debate would be a risk. Biden was headed for a loss before the debate, and he is likelier to lose after it. To the extent his team has articulated a theory of what was supposed to turn the race around, this was the theory: the unusually early debate, in which the American people would see Biden and Trump on the stage and be reminded of why they backed Biden in 2020. That theory failed. Biden couldn’t pull it off.

Politically, I am more optimistic about a convention than some. It carries risk but also possibility — the possibility of a ticket that re-energizes the Democratic Party, that excites voters who currently feel they have no good choices. But it could go badly, too, just as Biden’s campaign is going badly now. And so what tips me is not really the politics. It’s that I don’t actually believe Biden should be president for another four years. I don’t believe he would be better than the alternatives.

I realize there is no magic mechanism, no unitary actor called the party that can persuade him to step aside. But there are many people in the party with influence over him. There is the support he senses he has from the rest of the party. The Democratic Party may not end up with another choice — it may truly be too late — but it should be trying to make one possible. Because there is not a plausible way for Democrats to convince voters that the man they saw on Thursday’s stage should be president three or four years from now.

So to go back to Newsom’s question: What kind of party would be trying to make a change after Thursday night? A party that was doing its job.


06/30/24 05:26 PM #17172    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

I don't agree with Ezra Klein's conclusion that a brokered conference has a better chance with someone else heading the ticket then Joe Biden. I think it would be very disruptive and many of the possible choices are not that well known. I think Biden is physically exhausted from all the trips but he makes sure to do what's needed for the American people. Kamala Harris, his VP, is the insurance if something were to happen to him. I agree with Nancy Pelosi that we should rally around the Joe Biden/Kamala Harris ticket. I think Joe still has the judgement needed to make major decisions for the American people. Love Joanie

06/30/24 07:27 PM #17173    

 

Nora Skinker (Morton)

Oh. Okay.  Was under the impression that Friedman's position was held by you and other Dems, Jack. All that dignity/legacy/putting country ahead of self, etc., was not applicable after all!!  I had not realized that Biden is perceived to be the only Democrat in the country able to beat Trump, and apparently that is reason alone to keep Biden right where he is. Cool. Meanwhile, maybe we'll get lucky and no bad actors will take advantage of his weakened state of mind and do us harm.  Perhaps the medical field will make new inroads in repairing cognitive deterioration. Perhaps he can lay low when he has bad days and the public will buy whatever excuse is offered up to the public. Perhaps he has a staff and personal advisers who will make amazing decisions when he is having a tough day. Better yet, perhaps Mr. Biden will surprise everyone and succeed in November and hand the reins over to the very brilliant Kamala Harris.  Sounds solid to me!

Btw, IF I were some MAGA zealot, I would definitely love that Biden is staying in. Trouble is, he is president for ALL of us and Thursday night he revealed alarming mental impairment, which we all know at our age, will only decline further with time. Four years? Really, folks?

 

 


06/30/24 10:08 PM #17174    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Nori, I think if you can go into your feelings that Biden is incompetent, its fair game for me to ask you how you can think Trump is competent to be President. Afterall he trails off about preferring electrocution to shark attacks and also he lies and lies and lies. The fact checkers have noted that the economy was the worst under him and babies are NOT executed after they are born...so I know you are not happy with Biden but its fair game to let us know if you are happy with Trump as a possible President?. Love, Joanie 


07/01/24 05:36 AM #17175    

 

Jack Mallory

I post this every year in my neighborhood and on FB. Pass it on, please. 
 

It's that time of year again. Please let your neighbors know if you’re planning fireworks. Not everyone, no matter how patriotic, enjoys unexpected explosions!

 


07/01/24 11:27 AM #17176    

 

Jack Mallory

For the 4th of July, but completely apolitical. Just read this in the new New Yorker. A short story, just a few pages long, that captures war, some veteran's reactions, and society's attitudes towards both. A subtle but solid impact. 
 


 

This story was written in the mid-nineteen-fifties, after E. L. Doctorow, then in his twenties, had completed his military service in Germany. It was found by the biographer Bruce Weber with Doctorow’s papers at the Fales Library and Special Collections, at New York University.

In our town, as in most, we celebrated the Fourth of July with a parade around the square and a few speeches from the steps of City Hall. An indispensable part of the ceremony, of course, was the Civil War veteran, and at the time I’m telling about we still had one—a Confederate, naturally, an old man of bone and leather named John Sewetti. John had been a drummer boy with T. J. Jackson and was thought to have seen most of what happened in the Shenandoah Valley. But he never spoke about his experiences, and he must have been a hundred and two years old before he finally agreed to lead an Independence Day parade.

The year he accepted the invitation, the Parade Committee, which had offered it to him by custom, nearly swallowed its collective cigar. John usually turned callers from his door, and, by his own custom, he had refused for decades to have anything to do with the holiday. The fact is, he wasn’t an easy subject for town pride: in the first place, when, on each birthday, he was asked to what he attributed his long life, he always said his genes; in the second, he was known to hate children; and, in the third, he was so old that his wrinkles had smoothed out again and he had the face of a beautiful, toothless girl.

Or maybe it was his clouded, angry eyes or his small head, tucked in the shadow of a humped shoulder, that made him inaccessible. The only person to whom he ever talked willingly was his daughter, a seventy-year-old maiden, who cared for him in a peeling wooden house near the center of town. In the early mornings, she used to sit him on the brown front porch, hung with a broken trellis and edged with weeds and wildflowers, so he could watch the sun the first half of the day; at noon, after his nap, she’d walk him around to the back and sit him down there. He’d wait for the sun to come over the roof, and then follow it down past the railroad yard and the ball-bearing factory until, finally, it disappeared. No one could tell the clock by him; no one could quote an epigram of his; no one could ever remember his being a friend of their daddy—or even their granddaddy.

I don’t know whether you’d remember the Civil War veterans in your own parades. They usually rode in an open car, didn’t they, gazing blankly from behind their hats and medals, like monkeys dressed up to look cute? I guess the old man knew the impression he wanted to make: he agreed to the parade only on the condition that he could walk, and only if he didn’t have to wear his uniform. There was some objection, of course—Lindsay Grayson, the head of our American Legion, swore he doubted that the old man was a veteran after all, since what veteran wouldn’t wear his uniform? There was even talk of importing someone from the other end of Caldwell County—a man was said to live there who had really fought, not just drummed, and who had a letter of commendation signed by Longstreet. But the talk died soon—we are a people sunk in propriety, however we struggle—and when the Fourth came around it was John Sewetti who led the parade. I’ll never forget the sight.

John was almost too old to stand up, let alone march. And his maiden daughter had to hold his elbow while he stepped slowly up the middle of the street, followed by the mayor, the Firemen’s Band, the Daughters of the Confederacy, and the rest. Nobody could march at that pace, and pretty soon the band couldn’t keep its beat while it shuffled so, so it stopped playing then, and before long the whole parade squashed together and became an embarrassed, overdressed clump of people herding along behind this old man, like disciples following a Greek philosopher. Lindsay Grayson was fit to be tied.

But old John had the parade, and the whole town, for that matter; he wouldn’t give it up even when he finally reached the City Hall steps. He didn’t climb the whitewashed speakers’ platform but stood off to the side and turned around, facing the embarrassed confusion in back of him. By then, things were so out of their arrangement that everyone just stopped; and with him looking, half-blind but stalwart, straight ahead of him, there was nothing for anyone to do but scuff a bit and grow quiet. The tuba player slipped his big bell off his shoulder and the honor guard leaned on their flagstaffs. In the back of the crowd, there were still some boys and girls laughing and skittish, but John began to talk, that way old people talk, without dreaming that anybody might not be prepared to listen.

I have often told the story of what happened that day, and each time, in the telling, I see John Sewetti standing in the middle of that trapped, crumpled parade of people, as if he should have been wearing a sheet and sandals, the way those walking saints of India do, or holding a staff and carrying two stone tablets under his arm. He didn’t belong in our town that hot morning—or, rather, he didn’t seem to belong there. It was almost a noon sun above us, and there was just a shiver of a breeze—not enough to stir the big flags on the empty speakers’ platform, just enough to flap the little Confederate flags attached to the fenders of cars parked around the square. Every store was closed but for the Walgreen’s next to Mayor Cole’s Buick agency, and, across the green, spectators were stooping under the wooden cordons and scurrying over to mingle with the marchers. John piped out his words on the breaths he took between phrases. I doubt if more than the first few in the crowd could hear John, or understand him, toothless as he was, but the whole town listened.

“At Manassas,” he said, “we waited reserve for six hours . . . and then we got called up to the line . . . and, marching up, we passed the field surgery. I drummed by a hill of arms and legs . . . cut off and piled higher than I was.”

Next to John, his daughter stood shyly, holding his elbow. She looked more like his mother than his daughter, slack-bosomed in a black dress and smiling apologetically at no one in particular—as if she had heard these words a thousand times in the dim damp must of their house and felt foolish about his bringing them out into the sun.

“Close on that,” he went on, “Zekial Shuford to the left of me spin and fall with a ball in his neck. . . . He blooded at the mouth . . . and I tried to close the hole with my hand or to pluck at the ball . . . but he died first. Right then I went down to a creek . . . and took my sticks and broke them and threw them in the creek . . . and I stepped in my drum and threw it in . . . and then I washed my hands of the blood. And then I walked on home. . . . Now, Jeb Stuart was a fool. . . . He believed we were in glory. Now, Mr. Lee . . . he didn’t make that mistake Jeb Stuart made, you all make. . . . He knew a man had to fight sometimes . . . but he knew it weren’t nothing to drum about.”

John smacked his lips a few times and looked as if he had more to say. But he lurched forward suddenly and his smiling, squinting daughter took a firmer hold on his arm and they moved into the crowd. Everyone fell back, and only when he passed them did people look at one another and begin to speak; and he was already at the sparse edge of the crowd before Lindsay Grayson, who was Parade Chairman, and the mayor conferred quickly and tried to save the day for tradition. A minute later, a police car pulled out from across the square and drove around alongside John. Ed Rainey, the police chief, tipped his hat and offered to drive the old man to his house; John shook his head but his daughter nodded, thinking probably her father looked flushed and overtired. So Ed and one of his patrolmen picked John up and put him in the car, and helped the daughter in. The doors closed and a moment later John Sewetti was gone from the square.

After that, Lindsay Grayson and the mayor and the high-school principal and Mrs. Cox, the head of the local United Daughters, got up on the speakers’ platform and the band fell in and the ceremonies got going. Things weren’t right, though: the microphone was troublesome and kicked back a hum; the sun was hot; and after the band played the anthem and “Dixie” a lot of cars pulled out of the square and kids wandered off down the streets. The counter boy at the Walgreen’s had to stop watching things, because people were already coming into the store for a cherry smash.

The afternoons of most holidays are depressing, and that July Fourth afternoon was as disquieting as any. The square was hot and littered and empty, and people stayed in their houses after the mealtime, napping or fanning themselves. Everyone in town must have heard one version or another of John Sewetti’s speech by lunchtime, but if there was any consensus of opinion it was slow forming. Only after six o’clock, when the sun’s edge had worn off and Joe Holler was able to open up his tavern by special county dispensation, were the town’s regulars able to get together gracefully and ask one another what their opinion should be.

By eight o’clock, the square was coming to life again; men taking their families out for a ride on the highway stopped in front of Joe’s, left their engines idling and their doors open, and went in for a quick beer to hear what was being said. By nine o’clock, a majority opinion had crystallized, and, by midnight, when Fred Warren, the freight dispatcher, went on shift down at the depot, he carried the opinion with him for the ear of any trainman who would pass through. Considering old John’s silence and solitude for so many decades, considering that he’d never given anyone much chance to make of him a parade doll, I suppose there was a certain appeal to the idea that his speech in the morning had been a confession of an eighty-year-old desertion.

Of course, not everybody got as self-righteous about it as Lindsay Grayson; beefy and red with beer, Lindsay harangued well into July 5th about how it was a long-standing mystery cleared up—why the old man never talked of the War Between the States or wore his grays. He even cornered me at my office late in the evening and told me to do an editorial on “The Shame of Our Town”—I got away from him only when Mrs. Grayson marched in and took him home. But if not everybody was as militant as Lindsay they still pretty well agreed with him: Reverend Harper, the Methodist preacher, spoke in church the next Sunday about charity and forgiveness and why we shouldn’t always judge a boy by a man’s standards.

I did what I could for what I thought was right; I printed John Sewetti’s speech just as I took it down when he made it. And, in the same issue, I ran an editorial on what I believed it signified. But if one man agreed with me he never let me know. I suppose I have yet to learn how to make my points in this county where I was born.

John himself never read a newspaper. And if he was aware at all of how he shifted a few sands under us that day, he never let on. Every morning through the summer, he came out on that small shade porch of his, and every noon, after his nap, he went around in back. Then, in October, he died, and that was the end of our drummer boy. A great-grandson of his came up from Charlotte and handled the details and then took John’s old daughter back with him to Charlotte. (There was nobody at the cemetery but the three of us, though I doubt that the old man would have cared.) The following July Fourth, the Parade Committee came up with that veteran from Caldwell County and they rode him, uniformed, in an open car with the mayor and Lindsay Grayson. I covered the parade, of course—I always like to report on Independence Day in our town. ♦︎

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/07/08/the-drummer-boy-on-independence-day-fiction-e-l-doctorow
 


 


07/01/24 12:14 PM #17177    

 

Stephen Hatchett

Thanks!!!! Jack.  I'm sure glad that story was found, and found a publisher.

"There was nobody at the cemetery but the three of us, though I doubt that the old man would have cared."

"three" I got it.   I would love to read Doctorow's editorial, though I can imagine the paper did not archive it.

 


07/01/24 01:13 PM #17178    

 

Nora Skinker (Morton)

Not sure about the details of Trump making death choices but I would definitely choose electrocution over a shark any day. Not crazy about blood in the water, unless it belongs to a fresh caught Tuna.  Halibut's good too. Or Mahi Mahi.

Seriously, Joanie, I just don't think it's too much to ask that there be minimally two sharp, strong, vital, unconfused American human beings running for president. Too much to ask?


07/01/24 01:50 PM #17179    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Nori, I understand that you and many others feel Biden isn't competent to serve as President. All i'm trying ask one more time is do you think Trump is competent to serve? Love, Joanie

07/01/24 01:52 PM #17180    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

You're so right Nori! Can you recommend "two sharp, strong, vital, unconfused American human beings running for president?"

We need your input!!


07/01/24 05:34 PM #17181    

 

Jack Mallory

“The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. One should, for example, be able to see that things are hopeless yet be determined to make them otherwise.”

-F. Scott Fitzgerald 

 

Like acknowledging on the one hand that President Biden may be a less than stellar presidential candidate and I wish someone else were running instead, and acknowledging on the other hand that the First Felon is a clear and present danger to our Constitutional democracy.

 


 

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That short story I posted earlier was so well written that it made me wish I'd read it in Miss Casey's class, with discussion of plot, characters, literary style, etc. Why is the focus on a "drummer boy" rather than a soldier? Why is he likened to a Greek philosopher, a walking saint, holding a staff and carrying tablets? Why does Doctorow have him taken from the scene in a police car? 

I didn't teach the Civil War, it was covered (supposedly) in the middle school curriculum. In my U.S. History class I taught post-Civil War through yesterday. I did include an extra-credit option of a book report on an historical fiction novel from anywhere in that period. I would have used "The Drummer Boy on Independence Day" as a lead-in to talking about literature and history!
 


07/01/24 07:31 PM #17182    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Jack I like that F Scott Fitzgerald quote and some other points in your post.

What a sad day today for democracy and the rule of law with the Supreme Court decision to give King like immunity to the President and to think it precedes the honoring of the Declaration of Independence in a few days. Love, Joanie

07/02/24 07:24 AM #17183    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/06/30/

 

My position is that we will have the best chance with Biden...Alan Lichtman has correctly predicted 10 out of 11 elections of the past. He didn't predict this one yet but he gives reasons why dumping Biden would cause us to lose. Love, Joanie


07/02/24 08:26 AM #17184    

 

Jack Mallory

From SCOTUS in TRUMP v. UNITED STATES: "Trump moved to dismiss the indictment based on Presidential immunity, arguing that a President has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution for actions performed within the outer perimeter of his official responsibilities, and that the indictment’s allegations fell within the core of his official duties."
 

Today's lessons, dearly beloved, come from the ball player Yogi Berra and the philosopher Georg Hegel. And, I suppose, from another disgraced Republican President, Richard Nixon:

"It's like deja vu all over again," said Yogi.

"The one thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history," said Georg. 

"Well, when the president does it ... that means that it is not illegal," said Tricky Dick. 

(Who also, in the same interview, said: "Because as president of the United States ... ah ... I had to make a decision, as has faced most presidents, in fact, all of them, ah ... in which, ah ... the national security in terms of a threat from abroad, ah ... and the security of the individual ... individual violence at home had to be put first.​" Proving that Joe Biden can claim no prize for most inarticulate Chief Executive. And Nixon was only 64 when he garbled that!)

So, nearly 50 years after the worst, most dangerous (second worst, second most dangerous?) President in our history claimed to be above the law, his competitor for those firsts makes the same claim, and six of the nine justices provide support. Thank you, Yogi and danke, Georg. No thanks to the six men in black. 
 

Maybe the scariest part of all this, in terms of understanding our democracy, is that there are undoubtedly voters, perhaps even here on the Forum, who voted for Tricky Dick--perhaps twice?--and also voted for the First Felon once, and perhaps will again. There is no way to Constitutionally protect democracy from what John might call "idiots."
 

 

 


 


07/02/24 09:05 AM #17185    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

This is a very dark time. I am thinking ahead to hoping so much Biden wins and that down the road there will be new members of the court to restore some of the core values that the court should stand up for but is now destroying. With two new court nominees that would give a 5-4 majority of the liberals on the court and perhaps a case can be brought back to them to reverse this horrible decision about Presidential immunity. We are in rough waters now for sure. Nori refuses so far to comment on Trump but just wants us to discuss Biden alone. Trump is the other candidate in this race and he would love to be President so he can trample over the Constitution and round up his perceived enemies. He now has the Court supporting him to do that. Love, Joanie


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