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10/21/24 11:37 AM #17591    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

Can somebody convince me that this man isn't losing it?

Trump kicks off a Pennsylvania rally by talking about Arnold Palmer’s genitalia

https://apnews.com/article/trump-arnold-palmer-closing-arguments-latrobe-pennsylvania-2bea9620c523e531a55259200215284e


10/21/24 01:54 PM #17592    

 

Jack Mallory

From an immigrant who defended our Capitol on January 6th:


"Before I begin, I need to acknowledge the sacrifices that five officers on January 6 made on that day.

"It is with honor, and a heavy heart, that I come before you to tell you my story, from painful, firsthand experience, of what happened that terrible day at the Capitol.

"Even though there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary, there is a continuous and shocking attempt to ignore or try to destroy the truth of what truly happened that day, and to whitewash the facts into something other than what they unmistakably reveal: an attack on our democracy by violent domestic extremists and a stain on our history and our moral standing here at home and abroad.

"When I joined the army and Capitol Police, I took an oath to defend the Constitution. I did so with duty in my soul, and I still feel it. 

"To Donald Trump, I ask: Why don’t you?

"On January 6, 2021, I fulfilled my oath to defend the United States Capitol and members of Congress carrying out their constitutional duties to certify the results of the November 2020 presidential election.

"To be honest, I did not recognize my fellow citizens who stormed the Capitol on January 6 or the United States they claimed to represent. When I was twenty-five, and then a sergeant in the army, I had deployed to Iraq for Operation Iraqi Freedom. But on January 6, for the first time, I was more afraid working at the Capitol than during my entire army deployment to Iraq. In Iraq, we expected armed violence, because we were in a war zone. But nothing, nothing prepared me for January 6.

"The verbal assaults and disrespect we endured from the rioters were bad enough. I was falsely accused of betraying my “oath” and of choosing my “paycheck” over my loyalty to the US Constitution—even as I defended the very democratic process that protected everyone in that hostile crowd. The rioters called me a “traitor,” a “disgrace,” and shouted that I (an army veteran and police officer) should be “executed.” Some of the rioters had the audacity to tell me that it was “nothing personal,” that they would “go through” us to achieve their goals. Others used more menacing language: “If you shoot us, we all have weapons, and we will shoot back,” or “We will get our guns.” “We outnumber you. Join us,” they said.

"But the physical violence we experienced was horrific and devastating. My fellow officers and I were punched, pushed, kicked, shoved, sprayed with chemical irritants, and even blinded with eye-damaging lasers by a violent mob who apparently saw us law enforcement officers, dedicated, ironically, to protecting them as US citizens, as an impediment in their attempted insurrection. The mob brought hammers, rebars, knives, batons, as well as bear spray and pepper spray, to try to accomplish their insurrectionist objectives. The rioters also forcibly took our batons and shields and used them against us. I was particularly shocked at seeing the insurrectionists violently attack us with the very American flag they claimed they sought to protect.

"The rioters were vicious and relentless. We found ourselves in a violent battle in a desperate attempt to prevent a breach of the Capitol Building. When I tried to help an MPD officer, I fell on top of some police shields on the ground that were slippery because of the pepper and bear spray. Rioters started to pull me by my leg, by my shield, and by my gear straps on my left shoulder. My survival instincts kicked in, and I started kicking and punching. I was finally able to hit a rioter who was grabbing me with my baton and then stand. I then continued to fend off new attackers as they kept rotating after attacking us.

"What we were subjected to that day was like something from a medieval battlefield. It was a prolonged and desperate struggle. I vividly heard officers screaming in agony and pain just an arms-length from me. I, too, was being crushed by the rioters. I could feel myself losing oxygen and recall thinking to myself, “This is how I’m going to die, trampled defending this entrance.”

"After order finally had been restored at the Capitol and after many exhausting hours, I arrived home at nearly 4:00 a.m. on January 7. I had to push away my wife from hugging me because of all the chemicals that covered my body. I couldn’t sleep because the chemicals reactivated after I took a shower, and my skin was still burning. I finally fell asleep two hours later, completely physically and mentally exhausted. Yet by 8:00 a.m. that day, I was already on my way back to the Capitol.

"Many of my fellow Capitol Police officers, as well as MPD officers, suffered terrible physical injuries from the violence inflicted on us on January 6. I sustained injuries to both of my hands, my left shoulder, my left calf, and my right foot. I have already undergone fusion surgery on my foot, and I was just told that I need surgery on my left shoulder. 

"We officers risk everything to protect innocent people. President Trump summoned our attackers and incited the insurrection. He betrayed us.

"But despite being outnumbered, we did our job. Every member of the House of Representatives, senator, and staff member made it home safely. Sadly, as a result of that day, we lost officers—some really good officers. But we held the line to protect our democratic process, because the alternative would have been a disaster. We are not asking for medals or even recognition. We simply want accountability and justice.

"For most people, January 6 happened for a few hours that day. But for those of us who were in the thick of it, it has not ended. That day continues to be a constant trauma for us literally every day, whether because of our physical or emotional injuries, or both.

"There are some who expressed outrage when someone simply kneeled for social justice during the national anthem. Where are those same people expressing outrage to condemn the violent attack on law enforcement officers, the US Capitol, and our American democracy?"

"On January 6, I nearly died protecting the Capitol, and I will do it again for our democracy. The way to preserve it is to elect Kamala Harris, our first female commander in chief.

Sergeant Aquilino Gonell is a former Capitol Police Officer, US Army veteran, and immigrant from the Dominican Republic who risked his life defending the Capitol on January 6, 2021. Since then, he has testified before Congress about his experience that day and is the author ofAmerican Shield: The Immigrant Sergeant Who Defended Democracy."

 

https://www.270reasons.com/"


10/21/24 02:28 PM #17593    

 

Glen Hirose

Jack,

Wildlife On a Maine Pond: A New Series ...

Claire with the currently adult offsping that you photographed.


10/21/24 04:37 PM #17594    

 

Jay Shackford

By Tom D’Angelo

The Palm Beach Post

October 20, 2024

Donald Trump's opening at his rally Saturday in Latrobe, Pa., birthplace of the late Arnold Palmer, was a boast about how close he was to the legendary golfer.

But that relationship was not what Trump made it out to be, at least not in latter years, according to Palmer's daughter.

Peg Palmer told author Thomas Hauser her dad, who was a political conservative, was "appalled" by Trump's lack of civility and character. Hauser, who wrote a book about Palmer in 1994, spoke to Peg in 2018 for a story on what her father would have thought about Trump at that time, about two years into his presidency.

“My dad didn’t like people who act like they’re better than other people,” Peg Palmer said. “He had no patience for people who are dishonest and cheat. My dad was disciplined. He wanted to be a good role model. He was appalled by Trump’s lack of civility and what he began to see as Trump’s lack of character.”

Peg Palmer recalls one moment when her father saw Trump on television during the 2016 presidential campaign.

"One moment stands out in my mind," she said. "My dad and I were at home in Latrobe. He died in September, so this was before the election. The television was on. Trump was talking. And my dad made a sound of disgust — like 'uck' or 'ugg' — like he couldn't believe the arrogance and crudeness of this man who was the nominee of the political party that he believed in. Then he said, 'He's not as smart as we thought he was' and walked out of the room. What would my dad think of Donald Trump today? I think he'd cringe.”

Palmer died Sept. 25, 2016, six weeks before Trump was elected president.

On Saturday, Trump talked about Palmer, a seven-time major champion who won 62 PGA Tour events, for 12 minutes. He opened the rally by saying, "this is the home of my friend Arnold Palmer," before talking about Palmer's life, telling stories he said were "all told to me by Arnold."

The speech has become viral for the way Trump told a crude story about other golfers noticing Palmer as he took showers.

 


10/21/24 05:48 PM #17595    

 

Jack Mallory

Yeah, Glen, loons are like (some) humans. Cute when they're young, handsome, even elegant as adults. But pretty awkward and geeky looking when adolescent!

Here's one learning to drive. Er, fly. He/she didn't make it off the water. 


10/22/24 07:02 AM #17596    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Hi friends, I caught up on some of the posts. Jack, the person who wrote about his Peruvian background and coming to the US as a child said such moving things. I love the things he said from the heart and how just hearing about him counteracted the vicious things Trump says about immigrants.. Then I loved your comments after so much. Thank you. Thanks to Helen for that wonderful video she posted. I thought it was great. Also Jay and Joan writing in always have such important things to say. Love to all, Joanie    here is another article that talks about what we all know are Trump dangers. Love, Joanie

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-authoritarian-rhetoric-hitler-mussolini/680296/


10/22/24 08:22 AM #17597    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Glen, that's a great picture of the mom and little ones. Thanks for posting it. Love, Joanie❤️


10/22/24 01:19 PM #17598    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Me again... For anyone who is super nervous about the outcome of this Presidential Election, maybe it will calm you some to hear Alan Lichtman's reasons why he says Kamala Harris will win. Love to all, Joanie

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/09/05/allan_lichtmans_13_keys_to_the_white_house_predicts_kamala_harris_victory.html

 


10/22/24 07:49 PM #17599    

 

Jack Mallory

Joanie, Trump is working to set this election up so that no matter who wins, the nation loses. If Harris wins, Trump has already declared it can only be because the election will have been stolen, and the country will be torn apart by his lies. If Trump wins, the country will be torn apart by his plans for political revenge and ethnic cleansing. 

Sorry, folks, but things are looking grim. Got to spend more time on the water. 
 




10/22/24 08:32 PM #17600    

 

Joanie Bender (Grosfeld)

Hi Jack, I can see why you are not breaking out the champagne. I still think that the Democrats have some things up their sleeves to counter Trump. I think he will have to face the music which will be his numerous convictions and upcoming trials. I don't think he has so many diehart backers. They never came to any of his trials. Secretly a lot of the MAGAs must be tired of Trump. Maybe my comments are all a dream that I am having. Love, Joanie

Adorable Picture of Deb...


10/23/24 04:32 AM #17601    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

An article that is astonishing in its breadth, documenting the relationship between Trump and the military.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/

and for something a little different and more fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGxwn_N9DtE&ab_channel=JimmyKimmelLive

 


10/23/24 05:44 AM #17602    

 

Jack Mallory

Enjoy some justice with your breakfast!

 


https://www.npr.org/2024/10/22/nx-s1-5161612/rudy-giuliani-defamation-lawsuit-watches-apartment

 


10/23/24 08:41 AM #17603    

 

Jack Mallory

John, I hope like hell you weren't involved in this. The most outrageous example of the victory of capitalism over human decency I've ever seen. 
 

". . . Between Florida horse country to the north and Disney World to the south is a land of 4 p.m. dinners and town squares that appear more Hollywood than real, where people seek to cash in their dreams before they die. For the pharmaceutical industry, this colony, the Villages, is a petri dish of aging bodies to study in the hope of creating transformative drugs, with the prospect of almost unimaginable profits.

"Recruiting people for trials with potential health risks requires skill and imagination. Charter Research runs drug trials in the Villages on behalf of pharmaceutical companies, partly by assuming the role of camp counselor, arranging a packed schedule of daily events — all free . . . 
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/health/alzheimers-drug-brain-bleeding.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

 


10/23/24 11:38 AM #17604    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

Jay's recent post of the Susan Glasser article from The New Yorker speaks at length about Gordon Sondland whom Nori held up a few posts ago as a stellar example of a former Trump appointee who's coming back to the MAGA fold. Horray! It's clear from Glasser's reporting that Sondland is a quid pro quo bundler for Trump who accepted an Ambassadorship in exchange for his donations and bundling. He's a transactional guy just like Trump. I'll give you a boatload of money - what can you do for me? Somebody tell me how this compares to the hundreds - yes hundreds of former Trumpers who are warning us about another Trump term? Many of these are military men who see Trump as a threat to our Democracy. They're getting nothing out of saying so besides being patriots. For them, it's not quid pro quo. Come on Nori! You will have to do better than that to show us at least ONE person who is backing Trump who doesn't have a transactional reason for doing so - and I include his wife. 

And once again.....this is becoming tedious - Nori, please give us an instance - only one would do - of attacks on Democracy by the Biden/Harris administration.


10/23/24 04:57 PM #17605    

 

Jack Mallory

Joan, I admire your persistence. But give yourself a break. I've been after Nori for weeks for an evidenced example of an attack on democracy by Harris. Nada. Niente. Sweet fuck all. 

Like asking Trump for evidence that immigrants are eating our puppies. Hell, not even Bodie believes that. I tell him if he doesn't quit chewing our shoe laces I'll feed him to the Haitians; he just wags his tail. 
 


 


10/24/24 06:12 AM #17606    

 

Jack Mallory

I feel compelled to read and reread Kagan's article. A very clear and concise description of how fascism could, or will, come to the United States. Goes back to the first Trump presidential campaign, but still, or even more, accurate today.

*******

So Harris decides to recognize the nearly unspeakable and speak it. She agrees with descriptions of Trump as a fascist. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/24/us/politics/harris-town-hall-cnn-takeaways.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare 

This is a characterization I agree with. I don't use the accusation as slander, throwing out unsupported political potty mouthisms like Trump himself does. In past posts I have used the term, defined it, and provided evidence showing that his words and behavior support my opinion. 

The linking of Trump with his political bedmates like Franco, Mussolini, and Hitler has gone on for years. The first instance I know of is Robert Kagan's in early 2016 in the WaPo. I thought it might be interesting to revisit that:

"The Republican Party’s attempt to treat Donald Trump as a normal political candidate would be laughable were it not so perilous to the republic. If only he would mouth the party’s “conservative” principles, all would be well.

"But of course the entire Trump phenomenon has nothing to do with policy or ideology. It has nothing to do with the Republican Party, either, except in its historic role as incubator of this singular threat to our democracy. Trump has transcended the party that produced him. His growing army of supporters no longer cares about the party. Because it did not immediately and fully embrace Trump, because a dwindling number of its political and intellectual leaders still resist him, the party is regarded with suspicion and even hostility by his followers. Their allegiance is to him and him alone.

"And the source of allegiance? We’re supposed to believe that Trump’s support stems from economic stagnation or dislocation. Maybe some of it does. But what Trump offers his followers are not economic remedies—his proposals change daily. What he offers is an attitude, an aura of crude strength and machismo, a boasting disrespect for the niceties of the democratic culture that he claims, and his followers believe, has produced national weakness and incompetence. His incoherent and contradictory utterances have one thing in common: They provoke and play on feelings of resentment and disdain, intermingled with bits of fear, hatred and anger. His public discourse consists of attacking or ridiculing a wide range of “others”—Muslims, Hispanics, women, Chinese, Mexicans, Europeans, Arabs, immigrants, refugees—whom he depicts either as threats or as objects of derision. His program, such as it is, consists chiefly of promises to get tough with foreigners and people of nonwhite complexion. He will deport them, bar them, get them to knuckle under, make them pay up or make them shut up.

"That this tough-guy, get-mad-and-get-even approach has gained him an increasingly large and enthusiastic following has probably surprised Trump as much as it has everyone else. Trump himself is simply and quite literally an egomaniac. But the phenomenon he has created and now leads has become something larger than him, and something far more dangerous.

"Republican politicians marvel at how he has “tapped into” a hitherto unknown swath of the voting public. But what he has tapped into is what the founders most feared when they established the democratic republic: the popular passions unleashed, the “mobocracy.” Conservatives have been warning for decades about government suffocating liberty. But here is the other threat to liberty that Alexis de Tocqueville and the ancient philosophers warned about: that the people in a democracy, excited, angry and unconstrained, might run roughshod over even the institutions created to preserve their freedoms. As Alexander Hamilton watched the French Revolution unfold, he feared in America what he saw play out in France—that the unleashing of popular passions would lead not to greater democracy but to the arrival of a tyrant, riding to power on the shoulders of the people.

"This phenomenon has arisen in other democratic and quasi-democratic countries over the past century, and it has generally been called “fascism.” Fascist movements, too, had no coherent ideology, no clear set of prescriptions for what ailed society. “National socialism” was a bundle of contradictions, united chiefly by what, and who, it opposed; fascism in Italy was anti-liberal, anti-democratic, anti-Marxist, anti-capitalist and anti-clerical. Successful fascism was not about policies but about the strongman, the leader (Il Duce, Der Fuhrer), in whom could be entrusted the fate of the nation. Whatever the problem, he could fix it. Whatever the threat, internal or external, he could vanquish it, and it was unnecessary for him to explain how. Today, there is Putinism, which also has nothing to do with belief or policy but is about the tough man who singlehandedly defends his people against all threats, foreign and domestic.

"To understand how such movements take over a democracy, one only has to watch the Republican Party today. These movements play on all the fears, vanities, ambitions and insecurities that make up the human psyche. In democracies, at least for politicians, the only thing that matters is what the voters say they want—vox populi vox dei. A mass political movement is thus a powerful and, to those who would oppose it, frightening weapon. When controlled and directed by a single leader, it can be aimed at whomever the leader chooses. If someone criticizes or opposes the leader, it doesn’t matter how popular or admired that person has been. He might be a famous war hero, but if the leader derides and ridicules his heroism, the followers laugh and jeer. He might be the highest-ranking elected guardian of the party’s most cherished principles. But if he hesitates to support the leader, he faces political death.

"In such an environment, every political figure confronts a stark choice: Get right with the leader and his mass following or get run over. The human race in such circumstances breaks down into predictable categories—and democratic politicians are the most predictable. There are those whose ambition leads them to jump on the bandwagon. They praise the leader’s incoherent speeches as the beginning of wisdom, hoping he will reward them with a plum post in the new order. There are those who merely hope to survive. Their consciences won’t let them curry favor so shamelessly, so they mumble their pledges of support, like the victims in Stalin’s show trials, perhaps not realizing that the leader and his followers will get them in the end anyway.

"A great number will simply kid themselves, refusing to admit that something very different from the usual politics is afoot. Let the storm pass, they insist, and then we can pick up the pieces, rebuild and get back to normal. Meanwhile, don’t alienate the leader’s mass following. After all, they are voters and will need to brought back into the fold. As for Trump himself, let’s shape him, advise him, steer him in the right direction and, not incidentally, save our political skins.

"What these people do not or will not see is that, once in power, Trump will owe them and their party nothing. He will have ridden to power despite the party, catapulted into the White House by a mass following devoted only to him. By then that following will have grown dramatically. Today, less than 5 percent of eligible voters have voted for Trump. But if he wins the election, his legions will comprise a majority of the nation. Imagine the power he would wield then. In addition to all that comes from being the leader of a mass following, he would also have the immense powers of the American presidency at his command: the Justice Department, the FBI, the intelligence services, the military. Who would dare to oppose him then? Certainly not a Republican Party that laid down before him even when he was comparatively weak. And is a man like Trump, with infinitely greater power in his hands, likely to become more humble, more judicious, more generous, less vengeful than he is today, than he has been his whole life? Does vast power un-corrupt?

"This is how fascism comes to America, not with jackboots and salutes (although there have been salutes, and a whiff of violence) but with a television huckster, a phony billionaire, a textbook egomaniac “tapping into” popular resentments and insecurities, and with an entire national political party—out of ambition or blind party loyalty, or simply out of fear—falling into line behind himhttps://www.brookings.edu/articles/this-is-how-fascism-comes-to-america/


10/24/24 09:14 AM #17607    

 

Nora Skinker (Morton)

Got a kick out of last night's Town Hall gathering with VP Harris on CNN. Even in a scripted situation, that lady can dance, As for Trump being a Fascist, I'm not seeing it: wheeler~dealer, narcissist, entertainer, spoiled rich kid, maybe. No, probably. But, seems to me that Trump could have imposed Martial Law during Covid but instead relegated choice to the states, constitutionally. As for pursuing political opponents being a cornerstone of Fascism, the democrats have that honor nailed. Not to say Fascism couldn't happen here, but so far, not with Trump. A single~party dictatorship? Nah. Who would he have to spar with? 


10/24/24 11:23 AM #17608    

 

Jack Mallory

Nori, I must have missed something. How have the Democrats been "pursuing political opponents" more than Republicans? I don't understand what this even means. Like tapping their phone lines? Oh, wait. That was Nixon, wasn't it . . .

"Not to say that Fascism couldn't happen here, but so far not with Trump." Nori Skinker (Morton), 24 October 2024

"Not to say that Fascism couldn't happen here, but so far not with Hitler." Hypothetical German, 22 March 1933

And your response to our questions about Harris's attacks on democracy? With evidence, of course.


10/24/24 12:56 PM #17609    

 

Joan Ruggles (Young)

Oh Nori, I think I'm going to die before you give us an instance - only one would do - of attacks on Democracy by the Biden/Harris administration.

And as far as fascism by Trump, yeah he could have done it before but now he's promising he will lock up his political opponents - Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi. We're talking about his actual promises. I don't care what he did before or was not permitted to do before but now he has the seal of the SCOTUS to proceed at will and he will have no one around him who will try to restrict his impulsive tendencies. God save our country from men such as this!


10/24/24 03:21 PM #17610    

 

Nora Skinker (Morton)

I believe Trump has been targeted by the liberal lelft ever since he rode the elevator down, Jack. Or do you parce the words, 'targeted' and 'pursued' quite differently?

Joan, I believe that because of the enormous influx of undocumented migrants entering our country during the Biden administration tenure, we are less safe.  I believe that the progressive left is somewhat of an 'enemy from within' as we allow biological men to participate in women's sports, as we unfairly forgive student loans, as we consider removal of the filibuster, as we deny the importance of voter IDs, as we consider taking away states' rights to determine abortion, as we deny states mandatory abortion statistics, as we consider changing the Supreme Court structure, as we consider removal of the Electoral College, as we allow antisemitism to go unpunished, as we allow decriminalization of entering this country illegally, as we allow theft of small businesses to go unpunished, as we contemplate taking BOTH sides of a dangerous Israel/Iran war, as we contemplate financial reparations for slavery descendants and so much more.  Perhaps Sonderland had some of these in mind, when he chose to vote Trump this go-round. Perhaps not.

'Lock her up' was coined by Trump long ago.  Four years in office and he locked no one up, Joan. Now, Biden has chimed in with the same chant.  Of course, he quickly corrected himself, gawd bless his political self.  Like Hillary Clinton who declared that Trump was an illegal president, he has said the same about Biden.  The day we pay attention to that rhetoric has passed for me and I suggest for you.  It's election rhetoric and has been at least this fiery since the birth of our nation, JMO.  Lighten up .... for your own well-being.

Funny how some choose to believe Trump whenever politically advantageous (eating dogs and cats) but can't believe him when he says there are enemies within.  Surely the Jays must consider HIM an enemy within, no? And, Joan, do you really believe Trump's promises, after he promised to have the wall paid for by Mexico? 

Hmm, Fascism: wouldn't Trump pretty much have to get rid of elections, legislatures, encamp citizens without due process, pursue far right wing policies, set up and substantiate paramilitary groups and dissolve our two party system?  Didn't the left yell 'racist!' and "fascist!'  terms around Reagan when he was in office? I  wouldn't lose sleep over Trump being a fascist soon, folks.  We don't have much time left, as it is.

I love our country being split right down the middle.  Makes for great fun!

 


10/24/24 05:14 PM #17611    

 

Jack Mallory

Ok, Nori, I've been foolishly naive. I have never assumed you were my enemy, no matter how far apart we were politically. 

But I am someone who sees myself as part of the progressive left, a social democrat, well to the left of either Biden or Harris and someone who advocates many of those things listed in your spectacularly run-on sentence. And I see that because of this you consider me an enemy from within. Not a fellow American with different beliefs about political and social policies, but an enemy. 

I still don't think you're my enemy, regardless of those differences and your labeling me as your enemy. But thank you for clarifying your feelings about those with whom you disagree. Only enemies from within, not radical left thugs and vermin? How liberal of you!


10/24/24 05:46 PM #17612    

 

Jay Shackford

There you go again, Nori. Copying GOP talking points. Give me something authentic. 


10/24/24 06:33 PM #17613    

 

Jay Shackford

Defecting to Russia

Let's cut to the chase.  Trump is toast, and he knows it.  Just listen to his rallies over the past month.  Always bat-shit crazy, now he's certifiably insane.  He doesn't make any sense, even to his most loyal supporters.  Republicans know it.  Even Mitch knows it.  His generals see him as a "fascist to the core" and the most dangerous man on the planet.  Kamala Harris will whip his ass on Nov. 5 -- big time.  

When Trump ran in 2016, he assured Melania that he couldn't win and that the only reason he was running was to conduct the world's greatest and cheapest marketing and branding campaign.  When he actually won, Melania was in tears and Trump was scared shitless.  

This time around Trump is running in a desperate attempt to stay out of jail.  He's already been convicted and is awaiting sentencing on 34 felony counts on his hush money payments to Stormy Daniels on the eve of the  2016 election. He faces more serious charges for inciting a deadly riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021 in an effort to overturn the election and additional federal charges for mishandling and stealing classified documents  found at Mar-a-Lago.  That's in addition to owing hundreds of millions of dollars in his business fraud cases and millions more in the E.Jean Carroll sexual assault case.  In addition, he's been impeached twice by the U.S. House of Representatives. 

Things are getting desperate in Trumptown.  

After his big, big loss on Nov. 5, Trump will load up his plane with whatever classified documents he has squirreled away and try to defect to Russia where Putin has promised him a dacha on the Black Sea and a newly designed golf course.  President Biden will scramble several F16s with orders to turn the plane around carrying convicted felon Donald J. Trump and a few of his most loyal sycophants (Melania and his kids opt to stay in America) or shoot the jet down.

To be continued in real time....


10/25/24 07:08 AM #17614    

 

Jack Mallory

I like to think that my politics spring from a reasonably objective outlook on reality, an assessment of how things really are and how they could be better for the nation as a whole. 

But as Trump and his supporters increasingly identify those who think as I do as enemies, and as Trump threatens the use of the U.S. military against us, I will admit that my assessments probably become more focused on my own well being.

"I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within, not even the people that have come in and destroying our country, by the way, totally destroying our country. The towns, the villages, they’re being inundated. But I don’t think they’re the problem in terms of Election Day. I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think they’re the – and it should be very easily handled by – if necessary, by National Guard or, if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen." The words, the threats, of Donald Trump. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/25/opinion/what-trump-says.html

 

His words and thoughts clearly resonate with people, even here on the Forum.

"I believe that the progressive left is somewhat of an 'enemy from within' as we allow biological men to participate in women's sports, as we unfairly forgive student loans, as we consider removal of the filibuster, as we deny the importance of voter IDs, as we consider taking away states' rights to determine abortion, as we deny states mandatory abortion statistics, as we consider changing the Supreme Court structure, as we consider removal of the Electoral College, as we allow antisemitism to go unpunished, as we allow decriminalization of entering this country illegally, as we allow theft of small businesses to go unpunished, as we contemplate taking BOTH sides of a dangerous Israel/Iran war, as we contemplate financial reparations for slavery descendants and so much more."

As those who think as I do about issues are categorized and threatened as "enemies," how do we have continued, free democratic discourse about the direction the nation should take? How do we continue to put the national best interest ahead of concerns about our own well-being, a necessity in a democracy, when both the politically powerful and their followers see us as the enemy? Simply put, how is a democracy possible when some citizens are the enemy because of their beliefs?


10/25/24 07:47 AM #17615    

 

Jay Shackford

Double Standard for Trump and Harris 

Has Reached the Breaking Point

 

By Eugene Robinson/The Washington Post

October 24, 2024 at 5:20 p.m. EDT

 

Something is wrong with this split-screen picture. On one side, former president Donald Trump rants about mass deportations and claims to have stopped “wars with France,” after being described by his longest-serving White House chief of staff as a literal fascist. On the other side, commentators debate whether Vice President Kamala Harris performed well enough at a CNN town hall to “close the deal.”

 

 

Seriously? Much of a double standard here?

Somehow, it is apparently baked into this campaign that Trump is allowed to talk and act like a complete lunatic while Harris has to be perfect in every way. I don’t know the answer to the chicken-or-egg question — whether media coverage is leading public perception or vice versa — but the disparate treatment is glaring.

 

This week, it became simply ridiculous.

 

 

Retired Marine Corps Gen. John F. Kelly — who served as Trump’s homeland security secretary for six months, then as his White House chief of staff for a year and a half — said in an extended interview with the New York Times that Trump “certainly falls into the general definition of fascist, for sure.”

 

This followed a similar shocking assessment by retired Army Gen. Mark A. Milley, who was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff for the final 16 months of Trump’s presidency. Milley is quoted in Bob Woodward’s latest book, “War,” as saying that Trump is “fascist to the core” and “the most dangerous person to this country.”

 

 

It is hard to overstate how extraordinary this is. Two of the nation’s most honored and respected warriors, both of whom worked closely with Trump for extended periods, warned the nation about the grave danger of returning him to the White House. Respecting the tradition of keeping the armed forces out of partisan politics, neither Kelly nor Milley went so far as to explicitly endorse Harris. But they clearly intended their remarks to be understood by those who might vote for Trump as flashing red lights and blaring sirens.

 

The Times published audio of the Kelly interview, in which he describes how Trump “commented more than once that, ‘You know, Hitler did some good things, too.’” In a separate interview with the Atlantic, Kelly recalled Trump telling him that he wanted obedient generals like “Hitler’s generals.” Trump “certainly prefers the dictator approach to government,” Kelly told the Times.

During Wednesday’s town hall, CNN’s Anderson Cooper asked Harris whether she believes Trump is a fascist. “Yes, I do,” she replied — and that was the headline from the event. But news stories and commentary also questioned her decision to pivot from questions about specific policy positions — almost all of which she has already spelled out in considerable detail — to attacks on Trump and warnings about the danger he poses to our democracy.

 

Let’s review: First, Harris was criticized for not doing enough interviews — so she did multiple interviews, including with nontraditional media. She was criticized for not doing hostile interviews — so she went toe to toe with Bret Baier of Fox News. She was criticized as being comfortable only at scripted rallies — so she did unscripted events, such as the town hall on Wednesday. Along the way, she wiped the floor with Trump during their one televised debate.

 

Trump, meanwhile, stands before his MAGA crowds and spews nonstop lies, ominous threats, impossible promises and utter gibberish. His rhetoric is dismissed, or looked past, without first being interrogated.

Imagine if Harris were promising to end the war in Gaza on her first day in office but wouldn’t say how. Imagine if she were proposing a tariffs-based economic plan that economists say would destabilize the world economy and cost the average family $4,000 a year in higher prices. Imagine if she were promising a “bloody” campaign to uproot and deport millions of undocumented migrants who are gainfully employed and paying taxes. And imagine if Harris were vowing to use the military to go after her political opponents, as Trump repeatedly pledges.

 

Kelly and Milley are hardly the only career servicemen to sound the alarm about a potential second Trump term. Two of Trump’s defense secretaries, Marine Corps Gen. Jim Mattis and Army Lt. Col. Mark T. Esper, and one of his national security advisers, Army Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster, have also warned about Trump’s erratic performance as commander in chief.

 

They join a long list of civilians who worked in the Trump administration and say there should never be another one. Never has there been such a chorus of officials who served a president telling the nation that under no circumstances should he be elected again.

Oops, there I go again, dwelling on the existential peril we face. Instead, let’s parse every detail of every position Harris takes today against every detail of every position she took five years ago. And then let’s wonder why she hasn’t already put this election away.


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