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08/11/09 06:55 PM

#1787

Winona Hebert (Spinks)

Joe:
The Graduate aired in 1968. I remember sneaking off with John from his Senior prom--we went to Houston and that's the movie we saw. I was a nervous wreck all the way home, worried that we would have an accident or my Mother would somehow find out where I'd gone--she had one of those "little birdies" who seems to know everything...but I don't think she knows about this so don't tell.

08/11/09 07:04 PM	#1788
Joe Ballard OK its our secret [;?)

08/11/09 08:05 PM

#1789

Margaret Dubois (Ammons)

Jim
Dare I guess which category you fit in?

08/11/09 09:18 PM	#1790
Jd Barnett: Margaret: depends on the phase of the moon, I suppose...

08/11/09 09:27 PM

#1791

Margaret Dubois (Ammons)

Now, that's a womans response. We are supposed to be governed by the moon. But, yes, some days we are 1 and some days we are 58. Or older, depending.

08/11/09 09:48 PM

#1792

Joy Garrett (Chessher)

Carrol....that is right...if we cannot have a bonfire that is okay! It will probably be hot! Air conditioning and plumbing sounds great to me!!! We will have some great food, and I will set up a food table in the house. Who wants to cook the hot dogs? Ya'll let me know, and contact everyone on the website. I am contacting a list of 10 plus people to come!!!!!

Margaret...you ate your pet rabbit, Blackie?!!! My Dad went varmit hunting one time, and did a cessarian on a pregnant jack rabbit! One died, and we raised the other one. He started boxing us in the house so we took him back to the deer lease! I have also helped to raise a fawn..to a huge doe! I love wildlife!!!

Marian and Joe...keep a head count, and I will let you and Joe know when I receive emails!Thank you both for bringing chairs! You might bring a few ice chests with ice, and I will bring one too! Dips and chips sound great, and I will make my famous cheese/hamburger dip!Marian...1:00 or 2:00 sounds good! I am playing bunco in the morning...

Ya'll come...it will be great to hang out with you all!!!!

We will need music...boom box sounds great!!!

08/11/09 10:02 PM

#1793

Margaret Dubois (Ammons)

I am under the influence of Tylenol PM-can't hardly keep my eyes open. Sooo, good night, all.

Sweet dreams.

08/12/09 08:47 AM

#1794

Margaret Dubois (Ammons)

Joy,
We didn't know it was Blackie until after we ate it. My
mom told us it was chicken. I was young-couldn't tell the difference.

08/12/09 09:22 AM

#1795

Gary Vance

Hello all...I am a daily reader of this forum, though I don't often comment. The issue of health care reform is currently before the nation and I've noticed it surfacing here as well. I appreciate the legitimate concerns many have regarding government intervention in this critical matter.

Understandably, most do not want more government involvement in our medical industry. However, minimal regulation has resulted in doubling the overall costs of health care over the last ten years. Our growing health care costs have exceeded by three times the national averages of wage increases during the same period. Those of us with good insurance have to get past the gatekeepers at our insurance companies to get the care we need while the deductibles and co-pays mount up quickly.

Our health care is currently being rationed by our insurers who deny coverage for pre-existing conditions and decide which meds and procedures they will pay for. Essentially, our health care is being managed by for profit companies who are more concerned with their bottom line than my family's health. I know people who have insurance that barely pays for anything and others who were dropped because they got sick. We have nearly fifty million citizens with no coverage at all. Many of those people have worked hard all their lives and now can't go to the doctor because they can't afford it.

America is the only industrialized nation on the planet without health care for all citizens. We pay six thousand dollars a year more per person for health care than any other nation and our overall outcomes are worse. We do not have the best health care delivery system in the world...we do have the most expensive and it stands in much need of reform.

Many do not like the House of Representatives legislative proposal currently under consideration. The Senate has yet to offer one. It is tragic that the naysayers on health care reform are willing to stay with the sinking status quo when so many fellow citizens are left out. This is primarily due to the tsunami of misinformation that is flooding the media fed to them by the public relations departments of insurance companies. Wendell Potter, the former chief spokesperson at CIGNA, one of the nation's largest for-profit health insurance companies has turned whistle blower and he substantiates this fact through the link offered below. http://www.truthout.org/081009B?n

I would love to read what my fellow classmates have to offer on this vital subject. What do you think should be done to fix health care in America?

08/12/09 10:09 AM

#1796

Jd Barnett:

1) Institute a total ban on lobbying and advertising by special interest groups, including drug companies and medical insurance companies. It's a big waste of money that could actually be spent on (gasp!) health care and the stuff they are saying (euthanasia panels) is pretty much all lies anyway.

2) Require that Congress study the plans of other countries before designing a comprehensive health care system.

3) Require that whatever Congress comes up with apply equally to members of Congress and to the rest of us.

4) Get all of this done by the end of the year.

I believe that any civilized nation should have affordable health care available to everyone. It's not socialism, it's just common sense.

08/12/09 10:39 AM

#1797

Margaret Dubois (Ammons)

I'm going to put in my .5 cents here- we spend a great deal of money every year for HL's health care. I can't tell you how many times I have seen drug reps get in to see the doc while we are waiting and then one of his docs in particular always prescribes brand new meds that are not generic for him-most particularly cholesterol meds. This doc also has a research facility where he tests these drugs. None of these are substantially lowering his cholesterol, either. You know and I know that he's getting kick-backs from the drug companies and we are paying out of the ying-yang for these RX. This is the kind of stuff that needs to stop.

08/12/09 10:40 AM	#1798
Mike Strickland The "common sense" is the deal killer, Jim. When did ANY elected body show ANY common sense? I have zero confidence in every elected official. Vote against every incumbent in 2010. It can't get any worse.

08/12/09 11:07 AM

#1799

Jd Barnett:

Margaret, I'm sorry that you guys have had such bad results with the cholesterol meds. I was astonished when I went on Lipitor that my cholesterol immediately plummeted to really "healthy" levels and stays there. Dang, that stuff sure is expensive, though. I'm lucky my body chemistry responds. I also hope it helps prevent another heart attack. You do what you can and keep your fingers crossed, and in the meantime live life as if today might be your last one, which it might!

Mike, I feel your pain, and our elected officials do tend to be a bunch of scoundrels, but after all the dust settles, we are the ones that elected them. The logical conclusion of giving up on our elected officials is giving up on us, and as tempting as that might be, I'm not ready to do that yet. I've seen government do great things (the interstate highway system and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 come to mind) so I know they have the capability. We just need to give them the guidance.

08/12/09 11:12 AM	#1800
Mike Strickland Pretty sad when the best accomplishments were 45+ years ago. I haven't given up. I'm not voting for a single incumbent next year, local, state, or national.

08/12/09 11:37 AM

#1801

Margaret Dubois (Ammons)

I think all elected officials lose any sense of reality or common sense when they get to work. They also forget all the promises made when campaigning. We need to constantly remind them that we voted then in and they are we are the ones they answer to!

08/12/09 11:40 AM

#1802

Margaret Dubois (Ammons)

Jim- I also wish they would put HL back on Lipitor-it worked as well or better than anything else. Multiply the cost of one RX by 13 and you will understand what we spend every month. We do have insurance coverage but some of these are $45.00 co-pays. Suffice it to say that we have a substantial medical deduction at income tax time.

08/12/09 11:41 AM	#1803
Jd Barnett: Mike: I'm not saying government does great things very often, just that they can...;-) I'll wait and see how things turn out before I decide who to vote for/against in 2010. It's so much nicer when you can find someone to vote for, but so often I end up voting against someone. "Anyone but (fill in the blank)!"

08/12/09 11:50 AM

#1804

Jd Barnett:

Margaret: OUCH! I really feel YOUR pain. One of the upsides to having had a heart attack was tossing out a whole pile of meds that weren't working and going to a relatively simple set of meds which actually are, or seem to be, working. One of which is aspirin, which even I can afford. The others are the high copay nongenerics like Lipitor. Dang, I don't know what the millions of
Americans do that don't have decent medical insurance. I guess a lot of them die.

I can't imagine keeping track of thirteen meds. HL's daily pill boxes must be as big as the trunk of a car.

08/12/09 12:11 PM

#1805

Margaret Dubois (Ammons)

I fix HL's pill box once a week-heaven forbid something happens to me because he wouldn't know what to take and when to take them.

One of the specialist he went to last yr ordered a test that the co-pay was over $1200.!

Thank goodness I'm relatively healthy or to dang stubborn to give in to anything, so we don't have any med. costs for me.

08/12/09 12:15 PM

#1806

Joe Ballard

Just a comment I have become more informed about health care here today on this forum than I have from all the "talking heads" I will admit here that I have voted Dem most of my life then I decided to vote for whoever the opposition as Jim said. Now after voting since 1972, I may Mike not vote. Our country is so off track now that it is totally scary. Thank you all Gary, Mike, Jim, and Margaret for your enlightening words.

08/12/09 12:24 PM

#1807

Margaret Dubois (Ammons)

Joe-
I don't have a clue what the answer to the health care issue. I just know that something needs to change.
I can remember when health insurance was only used for when you had something major-doctor visits weren't covered but it only cost you about 20. bucks to see a doctor and prescriptions were not expensive.

I am wary of the current changes that Congress is discussing-i guess maybe fear of the unknown-like I said, I don't know what the answer is going to be.---

08/12/09 12:29 PM

#1808

Joe Ballard

I have said this before I am really blessed my family has not seen a doctor in 10 years and my 13 year old has never seen a doctor except for shots for school. my 16 year old is autistic HMMMMMMMM. We use home remedies and stay healthy. Aspirin has been now found to help with colon cancer Prostate blood tests only find out if cancer is present and can not determine if it is the short term type or the type that takes a life time to kill you. ON and on with their drug commercials that always have disclosures that are worse in most cases than the disease.

08/12/09 12:34 PM

#1809

Jd Barnett:

Margaret: This whole heart attack thing has been a real eye opener for me. Always before my conversations with doctors went something like this:

"Hey, Doc, I busted my shoulder. Can you fix it?"

"Yeah, I can," the doc said.

"OK," I said. End of story.

Now I have to really watch what I say to the heart doc. They don't mess around. Complain even a little ("Hey, doc, my heart felt weird last night.") and you find yourself strapped to a treadmill and some guy's injecting radioactive crap into your vein. Maybe HL made some offhand statement and, Voila!, he's on the business end of a $1200 copay lab test. Don't get me wrong; I'm thrilled to be alive, but no question: I'm making medical decisions based on cost, just by filtering what I tell the doc. So much for not placing a value on human (Mine!) life.

08/12/09 12:43 PM	#1810
Jd Barnett: Joe: I love those medicine commercials. Some of them are so bad I wouldn't take their stuff if I were dying. And I like the way they speed up the talking real fast when they are telling you your head may explode or your nuts fall off if you take their drug. It's a hoot.

08/12/09 01:01 PM

#1811

Joe Ballard

Dawn here - For years I was overweight and depressed - clinically,I tried all the diets, when they didn't work, I stopped them, and just ate right and excercised. Not a pound did I lose. Then my hair started to fall out. I went to the doctor and asked for a thyroid test, came out normal. (Last time I saw A doctor!) She said I just needed to eat healthy and excercise, but I was already doing that! Years pass and I come across a site that talks about the thyroid test, and how it MISDIAGNOSES 80% of the people it test, because it is a blood test, and thyroid problems only show up in skin tests...later me or Joe finds a blog that has a woman with the exact same problem who tried all the solutions as I had, all natural products, and she is losing weight. So I try them, and whalah! I am losing weight, my hair is growing in, I sleep better, my depression is waning and why don't doctors know this? I take kelp, selenium, nettle, ashwagantha, and D-tyrosine. For $50 I get a 3 month supply. I'm smiling.

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