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Kevin Barone
Bucky-
Maybe you should re-read my post.I didn't say that I wanted McCain dead in a coffin.I said that he would LOOK "perfectly authentic lying in a coffin".Meaning that at his 72 years of age,his lily white complection and comb over,that if he were lying in a coffin he would actually look dead.
You are not the only one that has friends or family in the services.My father was in the Navy,my brother was in the first Gulf War with the Marines and I have other family and friends that have served and I know people that are now serving.After high school I took the test for the Marines along with my brother and a friend of ours.My brother was the only one that made the choice to join.Any one that joins the military certainly has their own reasons for doing so.It is a fact that many of the YOUNG men & women serving now are from poor or broken homes or had joined in times of peace thinking that they would benefit from an education,regular pay,comradery & a pension.There are stories of service people hanging out outside of High Schools trying to enlist the young & innocent in recent times.You cool with that?
At the time any one is enlisting,there is always a chance of war.
Some find this very honorable.Defending the "best" country in the world.If attatcked,I can understand the theory of defense.Though I do not belong to any specific religion,the teachings of Christ,Buddah,The Dali Lama,Mother Teresa,etc. all reject violence.Turn the other cheek and love thy neighbor are their popular teachings.These are the teachings that resonate with me.I personally do not believe in war,the death penalty or abortion (which BTW I didn't even mention before).
I know what McCain endured while in prision camp.I don't just offer my opinion on things that I know nothing about.I've heard him describe it in lenght.I do a lot of reading and investigating on all sorts of subjects.However,I don't know how he "felt" while being detained and I don't think that you or any one else could possibly know how another feels about any subject or expirience.Even if you were in the same exact situation,your feelings would not be identical.The effects of imprisonment & torture for years must leave a lasting condition on just about any one.Look at all the people that have been coming home from Iraq with PTS (post tramatic stress disorder).
There are many,many philanthropists in this country that go un-named or seek no recognition for it.For the very wealthy Cindy McCain to do so is generous,but she is not alone, I do respect her for that.She obviously kept enough money to have that face of hers.....fixxed???
I certainly did not mean to upset Jo Ann & I know that her sons are serving because I have been reading this site for quite a while.I also did not mean to insult Sean.These are people's personal choices and they have every right to do as they please.I can only imagine what JoAnn goes through with her sons being away.My mother barely slept while my brother was away and she was sad every day.JoAnn,with all of my heart,I hope that your sons return home safe & SOON!!!!
The problem that I have with this war imparticular is that we were not provoked by Iraq,it was Afganistan that should have been the target if there had to be one at all.
Saddam was not the kind of ruler that I would want or admire & I'm glad that he is not in that position any longer.(Again-DEAD!) It is common knowledge now that there were no weapons of mass destruction to threaten any one and they had no connection to 9/11.John McCain wanted to attack Iraq THE DAY AFTER 9/11.I've seen him declare this on video.For whatever reason the desision was made to finnaly invade Iraq in 2003 (and I am not going to get into THAT),it became about establishing Democracy.WE were lied to and deceived.Are you O.K. with that?
If the U.S. went around the globe to bring Democracy to every country that is not currently a Democracy,we'd be very,very busy.Continueing the Iraq war,possibly starting others while also keeping us safe at home will eventually require a draft.Maybe then,when parents loose there own children to go off to war,the arrogance in having to "Win" in Iraq ,as Mr. McCain has clearly stated,may not be as appealing to the masses.Why do we always have to win? What does winning even mean when,in this case,over 4,000 U.S. soldiers have died and God only knows how many innocent Iraqies have been terrorized and killed?
Since you mentioned abortion,I personally am against it and if I were a woman I would never be able to do that.
However,whatever your stance may be,Rowe Vs Wade is now a law.I can empathize with women that may make that dession.As a matter of fact,without my knowing,my child was aborted and I was extemely upset about it.However,I understood her reasons for doing so and realized that having a child at that stage of our lives would have ruined our own lives and the childs.
If RVW is attemted to be reversed by McCain or any one else,there would be women (and men) rioting in the streets.Again,it's a matter of instilling your beliefs on everyone else when life is about personal choice.
You are not a woman.You don't know how a woman feels and you really have no right to try to push your opinion on any one.I am pro-choice because I don't feel that my personal beliefs should dictate to any one else's life.
Since I didn't bring up abortion in my prior posts,I am assuming that you possibly brought it up to send me a message about how you feel about homosexuality as well.
Bucky I don't give a rat's ass about what you think.You are entitled to believe whatever you want.
I do know that during the 4 years at Morris Catholic,YOU were one of the worst offender's of calling me a Fag,mocking me,making a fool of me and making me feel like a piece of shit.
I have come to terms with those 4 years a long time ago.
I have to thank you and the others for doing the things that you did to me.It made me a much stronger person.I was so filled with rage that I developed an "I'll show you" attitude instead of letting it act as a deterent.
I have a great life.I am proud of who I am.I am successful with my bussiness,I have many people that love me and I am physically fit.NO ONE EVER calls me a Fag any more.I am a MAN and most people have no idea that I'm gay.Even though now I don't have a problem with the word fag(I actually use it myself) if some homophobe said it to me derogitively,it would NOT go unconfronted.You have empowered me and I thank you for that!
I hope I've explained my self...
YES WE CAN!!!!!
Peace/KGB
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