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08/09/20 01:24 PM #268    

 

James (Jim) Mackie

That was a very nice story & picture about Catie in the UF alumni magazine.  She earned the honor as a Lee graduate, Olympian and UF student.  Not sure if this story is true, but Catie after graduation was headed to UGA and a Gator alumni / booster just did not care for that idea so they helped her to attend UF. Of course, that was a great choice in my opinion.  I meantioned her story of being the Olympian, Lee graduate and first women's swim team coach at UF in my book "Just Another Smelly Foot, the History of Athletic Trianing and Gatorade at UF" Amazon.com $15.00 and purchases support athletic training education and injured atheltes. Dr. Cade's personal memoirs (Gatorade inventor) in two chapters are worth the price whether you care for the Gators or not. Thanks for allowing a shameless plug, LOL.  Stay well all.


01/28/21 08:12 PM #269    

 

Johnny Arnold

Beverly, thanks for your note. Sorry to hear how you were treated or mistreated in Germany. My grandfather had a factory in Prague that made compasses that were the standard for European pilots. The Germans wanted them so my Grandfather had to make them. One of them is in the Holocaust Museum in DC. He was not Jewish. My grandmother was jewish. They made it thru the war that way. He was sent to a Nazi forced labor camp towars the end of the war.

My dad was an American. The Arnold's and related families had been in Jacksonville for generations.

My wife Susan has done a huge amount of work on our families genealogy. Yes, I am related to Benedict Arnold. The Arnold family came over in 1635 so back then Arnolds were related. I see things differently from we have learned. We are more interrelated than we realize.

I have learned a lot about the White Supremicist movement. I learned of Ax Handle Massacre in Jacksonville in 1960. I had no idea.
https://www.jacksonville.com/article/20100822/NEWS/801246165

The 1920s were a big time for naming places with Confederate names and statues. It is not something I want to forget or to celebrate now more than ever. That didn't end when we were in school as we have Nathan B Forrest high school. My younger sister went there. She went to see it on trip to Jacksonville and when she went over she met a Hispanic Guy, Black guy and her. So like a joke A Hispanic, African American and a Jew show up at their old high named after a White Supremicist.

Thanks for you note.

Johnny

01/29/21 02:03 PM #270    

Hugh Mattox (MAttox)

Johnny, great post but would like to correct the use of the word massacre in reference to the 1960's race riot. I do not wish to lessen the tragedy but the use of massacre means a loss of life.no one was killed during these riots. Words have meaning. In today's world we have lost our way with the English language.

01/29/21 03:44 PM #271    

Edward Parks (Parks)

To the previous several posts, renaming history or whatever, REALLY!!!??? Are you that bored? Try adding some adventure to your lives. I guaranty you won't be concerned about the names of statues or High Schools when you exit a plane from 12000 feet or you are 50 to 100 miles from any land and a predator longer than the boat you were in is within sight or....... get my drift? I sincerely hope everyone is well and wish we were having this discussion face to face! I am sure I will catch Hell for my post but maybe it will take your minds off things that in the GRAND picture of our short time here really ...better stop there.

EP

 

 

 


01/30/21 11:32 AM #272    

 

Susan Victoria Fritts (Burnett)

Parks,

Really? It's called EMPATHY!  Glad you are enjoying adventure though.   

Susan


01/30/21 12:56 PM #273    

Tommy Nixon

Eddie, being one who appreciates a good adventure, you lost me with the stepping outside an airplane at 12,000 ft. or the predator thing at 100 miles from land. I get your sentiment, I think. You're entitled to that. I think I'm too old to jump out of an airplane at 12,000 ft. though I still venture out off of Shelter Cove in N. California to salmon fish with my fishing posse, and hit the High Sierra occasionally. Hope you are well! Life's to short to be angry, is my motto. Take care!

Nixon

 

 


01/30/21 01:36 PM #274    

 

Johnny Arnold

Hi Hugh and Edward thanks for your notes. Good to hear from you.

Yes words matter. Symbolism matters. Evidence based facts matter.  Actions matter.

Some background on how and why I take some of my positions. I value these conversations and hearing from classmates. 

I was barely born in the US. My Czech Jewish mother was 17 and pregnant with me on the flight coming over from Europe with my father, from Paris exactly. My mother’s family had to flee what had become after the war a Communist Czechoslovakia. My father is multi-generational Jacksonville family.

My wife has intensely studied our genealogy including doing every DNA test available. My Arnold family came to the Americas in 1635. Yes, I am related to Benedict Arnold. My father used to tell me when he was growing up in Jacksonville pretty much all the Arnolds in Jax were relatives. I am related to Confederate officers including Confederate General Miller.

My mother was Czech from Prague. My grandmother was Jewish. My grandfather was not Jewish. The family was highly successful. My grandfather was an engineer. He owned Kadlec Instruments which made compasses which were the standard for European pilots. 10s of 1000s made and they are still being sold by collectors online. The DC Holocaust Museum has one. I have some that I bought online. My family house in Prague was a large house by the factory. The Nazis wanted the compasses, so my grandfather had to keep the factory going and people employed. My family house was used as a Nazi headquarters. We have pictures of Nazis in the house.

The way my immediate family survived the war was to say they were Catholic, and the Nazis needed the factory. Over 30 close family members were killed in concentration camps. We have found thru recently released Nazi documents over 100 other relatives killed in concentration camps. I had an uncle that was in Auschwitz for 3 years and lived. He was about 5’10” and weighed 60 pounds where released. His entire family was killed. His father, Oskar Glaser was a prominent attorney. Their house was right on the river by the Charles Bridge, a prime location. All but my uncle killed. I grew up knowing people with numbers tattooed on them. If you any doubts about the Power of Symbolism or the how white supremacy can infect a societ study some Nazi history. It is steeped in symbolism of a white superior race according to them.

Hugh in response to your note, yes, the word massacre is not used according to the definition. Let’s set that aside as I have no investment in the word, but I do have an investment in the actions of that day and in the response to those actions.  I had no idea the Ax Handle event, beating, assault happened until recently. Nazis and Neo Nazis are White Supremacists. I cannot emphasize enough the visceral feeling I get when people whether Jewish, Black Muslim, Hispanic, LGBQT or others are targeted by any person or group because of the who they are. It is in my DNA. Racism with violence grows when not confronted immediately at the onset. No rationalizing, excusing, justifying, joining in excusing the actions that white supremacy groups take.

On the statues. Symbolism matters. History matters. History is always being rewritten. George Washington was a brilliant military strategist. As SunTzu said in the Art Of War "All warfare is based on deception" he was a master of deception, a brilliant liar when he needed to be. That quality that made him a great general was thought to be a negative quality in a President so a campaign was mounted to portray as we heard as kids as never telling a lie. Our views of history are as dynamic as the present just talk with a history gradute student working on a her/his PhD or read a book by presidential historian like Michael Beschloss.

The argument that taking statues of confederate Statues down is not about rewriting history but is acknowledging the history that comes from the white supremicist movement in the early 1900s and 1920s. The KKK and similar groups were very active then  What the statues represent is celebrating the uprising of one part of the US against the other in a Civil War where the south was fighting for a way of life which included slavery, white power and rule. White supremacy has not gone away. I didn't know about the KKK in Jacksonville growing up. Do we celebrate it? To some the pre Civil War south represents a mythological past when white people ruled, not governed, in the south. White people owned slaves. Anti slavery movements in Europe and around the world begin to grow in the late 18th centuryand continued into the 19th century. Some of my extended family back then had slaves. I need to acknowledge it, but I will never celebrate it. There is a rebel mythology about the Confederacy. It is thriving today and recruiting more to join. I see this as a very bad sign. 

I learned from being in the middle of a family that were the targets of Nazis and a father who enlisted in the army young, right out of Bolles to be an American Soldier in WWII to fight against the Nazis that are definition of white supremacy. It was a huge danger then and has not gone away. It is a real and present danger in the US, Europe and elsewhere now. White nationalist groups in the US now have been identified as the biggest terrorist threat we face. We are in danger from white nationalist domestic terrorists like the the Neo-Nazi group the proud boys and the anti-government group the bugaloo boys. 

Confederate statues and naming schools after generals that tried to split the country, is for me, setting a horrible example of who we are as a people. In the early 20th century putting the statues up and naming schools was an attempt, successful in some ways, to rewrite history to glorify an ugly piece of not just American history but global history. Some will be inspired by the symbols of an ugly past to join these groups and so be inclined to take up, join in so to return or remake the present based past “glory” of a country where whites owned people and ruled. It is extremely dangerous and is showing to be real in the present.

Disclaimer: I don’t like to use this cliche phrase and here is the BUT I have found that we as the class of 69 are very good people. So the cliché is “We are better than this”. We can take our positions as Elders, not as elderly, and show that we have learned from a lifetime of experience.  History is a story we tell based on events, people, acts and records. It is ever changing. Let's write the story we want to the future to see by taking the actions, speaking the worlds, addressing the both the good and the horrible that is.

If we can send our message forward let's show the future that we, right now, faced a pandemic, racial inequality, racial injustice, climate change or rather climate nightmare, economic crisis and the threat of white supremacy with courage, truth, respect and vision of how things can be good for all people and all life. This is the time. 


01/30/21 06:37 PM #275    

 

Denise Singletary (Donohue)

You can't see me, but I am literally standing up and cheering your post, Johnny! Let's get back to advocating for peace and love, for everyone! 

 


01/31/21 02:07 AM #276    

Tommy Nixon

Very well said, John! I always appreciate your input and life experiences. As elder adults, it's important to speak up and share our concerns, and you do it better than most. I've just had my first grandchild and it's a responsibility to try and make this world a better place. I'm standing and cheering as well. Bravo!


02/02/21 02:26 PM #277    

 

Johnny Arnold

Hi Tommy, Denise, Susan, Hugh, Eddie,

Thanks much for your responses. I was at our 50th Reunion. I was very moved by being there with friends and classmates some of which I have known since 2cd grade. It was a different feeling than the other reunions I have attended, not many but some. It was gathering of people that share a common place and time. We shared major events such as the Cuban Missile Crisis where we practiced being under our desks. We share having parents and relatives that were in WWII. We share the music of the sixties. I remember Susan Harvard bringing the first Beatles album to music class. We share the Vietnam War. We share the polio vaccine. We grew in the midst of music history being made. I even had a guitar though my music career was cut short by my lack of musical talent. We shared a place and time then we went in many directions. It was a moment to when we could check in with each other. Time for the most has been our friend. 

I went off to college at Rice in Houston. I got hired by an engineering company in Denver worked there a year, skied a lot then was hired by Bechtel in SF. I was in the Bay area doing a variety of things for 15 years then moved back to Florida where I lived in Orlando for 20 years, now Chicago for 10 years. About time to move somewhere else. I feel like I am just getting started. When I look at my classmates and friends I feel very lucky to have known you and to know you. 

I am don't give compliments. I state facts. We are damn good people. Just think about the past 70 years how much has happened, how much has changed. 20-year-olds are big fans of Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Beatles, Marvin Gaye, Motown and Lynyrd Skynyrd. I belong to a Lynyrd Skynyrd FB group. It has 60,000 members most in 30s and 40s with some in 50s and 60s. When talk about band members it is with a mythology about who they are, where they came from,  I lived in Ortega Forest thru 5th grade when my parents divorced, and I moved with my mom and stepfather to Hyde Grove Acres. Of you have seen the book by Larry Steele, manager of 38 Special "As I Recall ...: Jacksonville's Place in American Rock History "     https://www.amazon.com/As-Recall-Jacksonvilles-American-History/dp/1530443024 you will recognize the names of the people in it and if like me think "I was right in the middle of this and had no idea" I have been told Larry Steele lived a few blocks from me and was at my school bus stop. We are living, beathing, walking, talking history. What have we learned along the way? 

When I first to Chicago all I knew was what I had heard on the news which is bad. It was an intimidating place because of what I believed it was rather than what it is. I could feel my racial bias which was a distrust and fear of black people. We made a conscious effort to learn about the city so Susan my wife found a tour Bronzeville which had been a center for the African American going north. We are the only people that ever took this tour. It was Susan, me and a friend that had come to visit. We were the only white people and the only ones on the van that didn't live there. One of the stops was Chess Records on 2120 S Michigan Ave. It is the place that changed music around the world. The Rolling Stones came over to learn the music. The American white people didn't listen to black music, but the British did. What groups like the Animals, Rolling Stones and other British is they took the Black music which Americans didn't listen to and played it? White Americans loved and never realized they were playing African American to White Americans.

Since then I have been in every neighborhood in South Chicago in all times of the day and night. I have had more laughs and songs there with the people than anywhere else. I never thought I could sing until I was with some Chicago Southside people and I played songs by black artists from the 60s and 70s. I still there in my head being supported and cheered on by them calling out "Take it John. Sing it.' I did and the response and support changed everything. This is a very rich culture.

If you go into a grocery store and look in the syrup section you will see Michelle's Syrups. She was on welfare in 1984 with 3 children and built her business on her own. She was on Oprah 3 times, a section of Harvard business school textbook is on her, she is in over 8000 stores like Jewel Osco, Marianos, Safeway and more. She is a friend of mine. I have helped with her strategy and clearing up the false stories like Aunt Jemima that is not a black owned syrup but Quaker Oats. She is the only Black Owned syrup company there is. She has taught me a lot about Black African Americans. The fear I had was based more in my ignorance than.

We are all influenced by our beliefs. Questioning our beliefs is very healthy. Having interactions that help question beliefs often starts with realizing how we are operating based on beliefs and our implicit biases. Here is the Harvard Implicit Bias test https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/takeatest.html  Everyone has biases. The phrase you can't teach an old dog new tricks is good for dogs but is not true for humans. Awareness of and questioning our beliefs is often embarrassing, enlightening, confusing and worth it because it frees us from beliefs that no longer serve us. 

Johnny 

 


02/03/21 02:41 PM #278    

 

Susan Victoria Fritts (Burnett)

Thanks John.  I looked at the "test" but will have to work on it later (and will)- it's LONG - so many ways to be bias!  Who knew?   Thanks for the memories.  I've been to Chicago and took the Greyline tour, which did visit the southside, to some degree.  It's a VERY interesting city, and we enjoyed it.  Was there to see my alma mater (Vandy) lose in football to Northwestern.  No surprise there!  Thanks again.  Susan


02/04/21 12:21 PM #279    

 

Johnny Arnold

Hi Susan,

Thanks for your note. The Harvard Implicit Bias test is an interesting tool to help with self knowledge and awareness. 

Socrates " To Know Thyself Is The Beginning Of Wisdom" 

Everyone has and will have bias. What self knowledge can give us is more freedom, freedom to consciously make choices. It is information based on what the test is looking at. Living here in a metropolitan area with 11+ million people can really bring up biases. When we visited and when we first arrived Chicago was overwhelming. Chicago has dangerous areas but that doesn't mean that most of the people in those areas are dangerous. They're not. They're just living their lives. Most all news on Chicago is bad. The murders are for the most part young gang members shooting each other. They are not good shots and people not involved get shot. 

My wife Susan has spent 1000s of hours working on our ancestry. We have done every DNA test and now with ancestry.com you can follow the documents so have have proof not someone claiming to be Cleopatra's 22cd Cousin. She just made huge break thru yesterday. She documented our ancestors directly to people on the Mayflower. We already had documented on other ships arriving in the early 17th century. The ancestry has shifted my sense of belonging and my place in this place and time and my connectedness to the past. It has benn and contimues to be transformative. I have learned more about history from this than any course I ever took. No matter our biases we all have relatives to varying degrees of relations that were the best, the worst and the regular. We as humans are very interconnected. I watched a legal argument on DNA in court cases and a statement that stuck with me is that the entrire human population has less DNA diversity than a small community of chimpanzees. We are that similar at least our DNA is. My mindset shift by the feeling of connectedness and the diversity of people I engage with here in non Covid time has transformed me. 

I have close DNA relaitves I no idea about. I was contacted by a cousin in Israel of my czech jewish grandmother. I have a 2cd cousin Deborah Bradley-Kramer I never knew of who is a professor of music at Columbia University and Juiliiard. We are good friends and communicate several times a week. I have a cousin that is also cousin to Deborah Toni Ann Johnson who wrote the the screenplay for movie "Ruby Bridges" and acted in it. Toni's mother is Jamaican. We are now good friends and cousins. I say to encourage others to spend some time learning about their history. It's worth it. We are not isolated in place and time. We are part of the human family and in most families everyone doesn't agree or get along. 

I grew up feeling like I was only kid whose parents got divorced. I moved neighborhoods. It was a bad divorce. Now I look at where, when and with who I grew as being lucky. 

Stay well healthy. We have much more living to do. 


02/05/21 01:11 PM #280    

John Pierre Hill

I spent most of the last 2 years researchng my own family through Ancestry.  I had some help from the former geneaolgist for the Jacksonville Public Libary and she kind of warned me I might find some things I might not want to know.  Thanks to my mother's prior research, I can track both sides of the family back in the US to at least 1650.  Most of them came from Great Britain, Scotland, Ireland and Northwest Europe, which confirmed the family stories.  I found 4 third cousins here in Jacksonville who I have never met, one of whom graduated from Lee in 1965. I found quite a few relatives who fought on both sides in the American Civil War. I found out after I visited Gettysburg in 2017 that my great great grandfather Hill was there in the 29th Ohio.  On the less savory side, I found at least 4 murders and one cousin who was charged and convicted on 33 charges of vote fraud in Florida.  I have had less luck with my wife's family, since I can only trace to about 1890 here.  Everything before that is from Poland or Lithuania.

As far as any thing else,I am always concious of the old saying "Those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it."  Changing or deleting unpleasant facts can obscure the nuances of history.  I taught American History for Vincennes University for several years and I always emphasized to my students they would be getting the good with the bad.  The other thing that impressed while teaching was the large gaps in knowledge most of them had about American history and that all of them had high school diplomas!


02/06/21 01:05 PM #281    

 

Johnny Arnold

Hi John Hill,

Interesting and enlightening. Regarding Poland and Lithuania, my ancestry on my mothers side is Czech and Jewish. Only very recently did the Czechs make records available and only very recently did the Germmans release Nazi records. I feel other european countries will follow. 

As your family arrived in the 1650s there is good chance we are related. There were not many Europeans in the Americas then so lots of intermarrying. My wife has tracked us both to a same great, great, great....shared grandfatther and also other connections from that time and moving forward. We are are connected to historically great people, most regular people and some murderers and others not so desirable. It is good to learn about all,  It makes learning history personal and lot more interesting and alive. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_colonization_of_the_Americas

In the 1650s looks like Dutch arriving then. My ancestors arriving then were British.  I also have Scottish. We, Susan and I have done DNA with Ancestry, 23andMe, CRI and MyHerritage. You might find more of your wifes on MyHeritage. Ancestry is not allowed in some countries like Israel but MyHeritage is.

Johnny


02/07/21 12:22 PM #282    

John Pierre Hill

Looks like the Hill and McClain families came in to the US through either Massachussetts or New Jersey.  Some settled in Pennsylvania( a large group around Lancwhomigratedabout 1891aster and York) and then most of them moved on to Ohio around Dayton, Columbus and Hardin County. My Philpot and Henderson relatives seem to have arrived through the Carolina colony (before it was split in 1701) and then south to North Florida and Alabama respectively.  Most of my mother's family was here in Florida before the Civil War.  The Hills did not get here until around 1915.  Oddly enough, my grandfather Hill and my grandmother Philpot were old friends from Ohio (she boarded at his parents house whille attending college), which is how my parents met.

One thing I have not been able to check out is that my mother claimed to have been related by marriage to Governor Fuller Warren (yes the bridge).  I did meet his brother Julian Warren, who was a county commissioner in Duval County before consolidation.  She also seems to be related to J Turner Butler through an aunt.

My wifes maternal relatives were Lithuanian Jews who immigrated around 1891, first to Milwaukee and Chicago and then St.Petersburg, Florida.  Her natural father's family came from Poland, also Jewish.  Her stepfather's family came from the Ukraine and the Austro-Hungarian Empire.  Why they chose to settle in Zephyrhills is a good question, but the Chenkins had a major fruit packing business there from the 1930s to the mid 1960s.  I have just about exhausted what Ancestry and Family Search can turn up, so thanks for the suggestions.  By the way, for anyone researching family history before1920 in Poland, Lithuania, the Baltic States or Russia, use the term Russian Empire in your search, it seems to turn up more results.

I also am doing research for the husband of my wife's first cousin and it turns out he is actor Larry David's second cousin. He found out when his sister watched the PBS program Finding Your Roots.  Looks like the familes were in St.Louis and Mobile before the Civil War.


02/08/21 07:47 PM #283    

Tommy Nixon

John, my mother's side of our family were Hill's. At some point in time I had access to a lengthy side of the Hill tree that took us back to the mid-to late 1700's. Our Hill's were in Georgia at that time. With little variance we were found either there or in Alabama which is where my mother was born (in Thomasville, a timber/railroad town that rolled supplies down to Mobile Bay). Her family relocated back to Georgia to farm during the depression when the timber mills collapsed. Hill is a fairly common English name but who knows, we maybe related in some unbeknownst way. Nixon, apparently is a sept of clan Armstrong, so somewhere there is a Scotch Irish English thing going on we my ancestry. When this Covid thing has receded its ugly head, we're headed to Scotland and Ireland for some new discoveries. Take care. Enjoyed the trip through your heritage as I did Arnold's.


02/10/21 11:39 AM #284    

John Pierre Hill

Finally went back to look at the Hill lineage.  Looks like they were early settlers in Ohio after 1800.  My great grandfather and his sister's family moved to Florida around 1915.  My grandfather, one of his brothers and his two adopted sisters eventually settled in Tampa. My dad, however, was born in West Virginiain a small company town run by a lumber company.  The site is now a state park and the house my dad was born in is still there.

A tour of Scotland is definitely on my bucket list.  My Scots heritage is all from my mother's side of the family. If her research was correct, I have connections to Clan Mackinnon and Clan Maclaine of Lochbuie.  Of course, a few stops at distilleries would be in order!

Today would have been my mother's 94th birthday. We are having a small memorial dinner in her honor tonight at a local restaraunt with my sisters and a few friends.


02/12/21 12:20 PM #285    

 

Johnny Arnold

Hi John H and Tommy, My DNA shows 26% Scottish. My wife Susan shows 25% Scottish. I grew up in Jacksonville. She grew up in San Francisco where we met in 1988. Married in 1999. The reason I am telling you this as in her genealogical research on both of our ancestry lines she found times and places where our ancestors may have crossed paths. Most recent were late 19th century in Georgia. I have found my ancestors in 18th century Savanah, Georgia and that crossed paths with the ancestor of one of our classmates.

Her research took her into mine and her Scottish ancestors, Separately creating my family line and her family line. She found that not only did our families cross paths but that we share ancestors that show up independently on both our lones as our Scottish 11th great-grandfather. His son, my 10th Great-grandfather was James Graham 1st Marquesse of Montrose. His brother is Susan's 10th great-grandfather.

She filled out a member application and submitted to Clan Graham. Clan Graham approved it and we are now, just very recnetly approved members of Scottish Clan Graham. It seems a lot us here have Scottish ancestry. Now where we want to visit is Scotland. Learning and walking in places of our ancestors makes it really interesting as history is much more than dates of events. It's the stories of the people that were there and especially intersting if we have ancestors history as that makes it personal.


02/14/21 02:51 PM #286    

John Pierre Hill

Just took another look at my Alabama relatives. No Hills, but a large number of Hendersons, Sowells, Mayos, Jernigans and Carys around Brewton, Alabama.  A lot of them were involved in the lumber industry in Brewton.  Quite a few of them relocated to Florida. My Sowell great great grandfather moved to Florida to join Company G 1st Florida Infantry.  Fought in the western army and eventually lost an arm at Nashville or Franklin. Foranyone interested, I have a copy of Soldiers of Florida, acompilation of the militia muster rolls from the Seminole Wars in 1836 to the Spanish American War.


02/18/21 04:58 PM #287    

Catherine Adele McCloud (Bennett)

My beloved brother Edward has passed away.  I was only 2yrs old when Edward was born and Mother always said that I thought he was a new toy just for me.  I was obsessed with him.  I may be the only sister who can say that I never fell out with my brother.

Edward suffered a stroke many years ago and was unable to work.  He enjoyed writing poetry and spending time with his son John.  We kept in touch by email because his speech was so muddled I could not understand him on the phone.

Because of the COVID-19 restrictions a graveside service will be planned.  


02/18/21 06:23 PM #288    

Terry Wayne Wallace

Catherine, It's very hard when you loose a sibling, especially one that is that close to your own age. I hope I speak for the entire 1969 graduating class in offering you our deepest condolences.


02/19/21 07:01 AM #289    

Catherine Adele McCloud (Bennett)

Thank you Terry, Edward was really proud that he had been on the basketball team with you guys! 


02/19/21 11:03 AM #290    

Robert Allen Rivers

Dear Catherine, I was so very sorry to hear about Ed.  I have missed seeing him these past many years.  Ed and I really became friends in Mr. Denver's 11th grade math class.  He, CLAUD Davidson, JIMELL Erwin, and I used to have regular Friday night contests--JIMELL and Ed against Claud and me.  Bowling, Putt-Putt, ice skating--anything we could imagine.  The pinnacle was the Great Ortega Forest Bicycle Race our senior year.  About 6 or 7 teams of two were entered with each team member riding all the way around Ortega Forest in a relay format.  It was a blast.  Ed and JIMELL dominated and won going away.  Ed was a kind, funny, and loyal friend.  I join Terry in offering you our deepest condolences from the entire class.  Ed was a friend to everyone, and friends like Ed are a rare gift.  All the very best to you and your family, Rob Rivers


02/19/21 11:43 AM #291    

Tommy Nixon

Catherine, I'm so sorry to hear of Ed's passing. Like Terry and Robbie, I send my deep condolences to you and his family. Ed was and incredibly smart and sharp witted person. He used to bust me up with his humor and funny attitude towards life in general. I remember giving rides to Ed and Dick Kaysen to their homes in Riverside after basketball practice or following games. I think they lived like a block away from each other. They had history together and I think we all know what a pair they were together. They also comprised a very talented part of our team in 1969. They were first off the bench many times or they either started for particular reasons. Ed was an amazing shooter. When he got on a shooting streak he was impossible to stop. There were times when I cursed him because practice was extended because his shooting kept the second team ahead of the first team and this was not what Coach Skinner wanted from his starters. I most regret not knowing him later in life as I made my move to the west coast. Ed would have been great to stay in touch with. I really miss some of the old team. Seems like it was always Hans and I at the reunions, which was always great but I really missed seeing members of the rest of the team, like Terry and Gary. Such is life. Anyway, I'm sorry for your most heartfelt lost and his passing. I'm left with a sadness but also a happy smile remembering a good friend and teammate from a long time ago. Keep shooting Eddie!....Tom

 


02/19/21 12:12 PM #292    

 

Pat Linning

Cathy, our condolences to you and your family. I knew Eddie...he had many nicknames...from our days at St. Paul's Riverside.....pretty sure it was all 8 years together. We were altar boys and patrol boys together among others. Tommy is right. Even at St. Paul's, he was a deadly shooter and hard to stop when he was on. Again, our thoughts and prayers are with your family.....Pat


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