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04/27/09 11:50 PM #469    

 

Judith Ann Postier

Mary Ann- That Barry story made me laugh till I cried!

04/27/09 11:53 PM #470    

 

Steven Ray (Steve) Postier

Why yes !! Plenty of great places here in Tulsa...on the WAY to Vinita... OR up around the lake...OR in Vinita, for all I know. That's why we need Judy to weigh in with the 'insider scoop' on where to go in
Vinita...OR, there is a local winery in Vinita, we may just have to land there and do some wine tasting ... the possibilites are ENDLESS.. (well, maybe not ENDLESS) but at least we could stir up some good girl fun !!

04/27/09 11:59 PM #471    

 

Steven Ray (Steve) Postier

Steven will get up tomorrow and find all of my posts on 'HIS' message forum...oh well, he 'shares' my Facebook page, so I suppose 'turnabout is fair play', as they say...and he would never have organized a shopping / wine tasting outing for the reunion...we certainly must have some activity during the golf outing! ;-) Cheers to the Vinita Hornet Girls of '69 ~

04/28/09 12:04 AM #472    

 

Judith Ann Postier

Did the Tilberry's run the swimming pool when we were of grade school age? Our family used to swim at the pool in the evenings and were friends with them. They had a couple of girls too.

Also does anyone remember Lela Anderson teaching swimming lessons? Steve's mom also taught swim lessons at the pool. I took swim lessons up to Life Savers. Our family always bought a season ticket, and my sister and I went swimming at least four days a week for years and years. Remember swim caps? Were they not cool?

Swimming at the pool and going to evening baseball games at Scheoch Field made for fun summers when I was a kid.

04/28/09 12:43 AM #473    

 

Janis Ann (Jan) Dirickson (Marshall)

Gosh your guys, you're bringing back so many memories. I never went to Nowata dance, but I was at the Starlight, a couple of times. And another club over by the lake, but I don't recall the name. I had my first experience with the strobe lights sure didn't like those.

Yes Carla I remember we were roomies. Do you remember the night you came into the room and screamed bloody murder. I had taken my jeans and boots off in one quick motion and when they fell on the floor I kicked em under the bed. Well you walked in and saw half my body under the bed, what exactly did you think? I was upstairs and heard the commotion. I ran down to our room along with half the dorm and there you were in a panic. It was funny.

Am I the only one who recalls Kolb unhooking bra's in class? During class (jr high) in one swift twist he unhooked my bra or whoever was in front of him. I know he did mine twice, and I think Joni got hers once or twice. That was when we had assigned seating. He was always so proud of his talent, and I think the other boys were in awe of him. He sure made you sit straight or lean as far forward as possible. That dawg.

I do remember going to the basketball games and thinking how good you guys were, but I knew nothing about bball, were you good? I think Steve you were very fast.

Who's going to win this game? We are ABCDEFGHIJK "L" Yes!Remember that one anybody?

Judy what else could I have meant?

And I remember Mrs. Anderson she was my instructor a couple of times. I liked her.

I'm glad someone told me Mrs. Keithly's name I sure liked her, she was one in a million. And Mrs. Parkhurst was a great lady. Her eyes would twinkle and her smile was a mile wide.

I think I ramble on in this forum, sure glad it's not graded..

Rhea, I'm glad you're back, keep us up to date. We care.

Do you suppose everytime Barry sentences a thief he is lenient recalling his life of crime? We all have something in our pasts. Except Judy, she never got into trouble cause she was kept on the farm way way way out in the country, and Carla she was locked away in the tower.

04/28/09 09:38 AM #474    

 

Steven Ray (Steve) Postier

Rhea- There are a couple of Quick-Trips between the Tulsa Airport and Vinita. Why don't you stop and buy a couple cases of beer on your way?
Mary Ann- You can not buy Judy off. According to Barry it was Bill and Chuck that stole the peanut and then forced him to eat it.
Judy- Wasn't Lela Anderson married to the plumber? She was Charlie Remund's mother wasn't she?

We used to live about a block from the pool when we lived in town and would spend all day every day there.

04/28/09 10:28 AM #475    

 

Carla Ray Williams (Yocum)

Steve-Bill wants to know if you play from the "red" tees? He said all golfers know what that means. He verified the Hooter's Tour! He is playing a lot of golf! He played a tournament in Rockwell on Saturday and won 2nd place! No trophy...just a lot of gift certificates. He also played the Lakes at Frisco the week before. He played in our golf teams tournament and got closest to the hole on two different holes! I hope you are practicing!!! He has several tournaments this summer. We are coming to Tulsa in June for a weekend of golf! He plays with a group of guys he has played with for 26 years. They call it the "Golf Marathon!" They play 36 holes a day for three days! The low man has to wear a pink hat each day. I love it cause it I can do a lot of shopping on that budget! The best thing is I have a lot more than an achy body, a scorecard and sweat to show for my three days!

04/28/09 10:51 AM #476    

 

Carla Ray Williams (Yocum)

Jan-I will never forget coming into that room and thinking you were dead! I also remember tripping one night over your saddle...you didn't have time to put it where you kept it and did not want someone to steal it from the car. Bill was tapping on the window and I was trying to get to it and I fell over the saddle. Bill could hear my blood curdling screams and thought I was being murdered! I saw my life flash before my eyes. I think you were in "Sissy's" room that evening. We had some great times!

If your dad's nick name was "Tuffy" you would have stayed in the tower too! I did finally find my "Prince Charming" who rescued me from the tower! I only had to kiss a few toads to find him! Talk about opposites...we
definitely are that!

All-I feel so much better! I always thought I was the only one who never got to go to Nowata!! I guess it must have been mostly the guys who went and danced with the Nowata girls! When I would drag main no one was there so I just figured I was the only deprived girl left in town!

Mary Ann-I found it was better to ask for forgiveness than ask my mama for permission! I could always say, "If you had just told me not to I would never have done that!"

04/28/09 06:29 PM #477    

 

Steven Ray (Steve) Postier

Carla- Tell Bill that I don't play from the red tees, but if my drive doesn't go past the red tees, I have to drop my pants. I'm sure he plays with the same kinda guys. Are you calling me a 'TOAD'?

04/28/09 07:13 PM #478    

 

Lavanna M. Hawkins (Morgan)

HI GUYS,
MY PC IS STILL DOWN BUT A FRIEND OF MINE TOOK ME TO THE LIBRARY. THAT IS WHERE I AM SENDING THIS FROM. I SURE DO MISS BEING ON HERE. I MISS EVERYONE. EVEN YOU STEVE. HOPEFULLY I WILL GET MY PC FIXED SOON. I'M CHECKING ALL MY E-MAILS AND THEN I'LL BE BACK I'VE ONLY GOT AN HOUR. MISS YOU ALL .

04/28/09 09:29 PM #479    

 

Judith Ann Postier

Hi Lavanna- Glad you were able to check in! Stay away from the swine flu!

Carla- Do you think my parents knew I went to Nowata? NOT!

Going to the Starlite Club at Langley or the Sands Club at Afton was a regular Friday and Saturday nite ritual once I went to work at ESH. The Recreation Crew I worked with were a fun bunch and we carried our fun into every weekend. Since we worked until 10 PM on Friday nights we usually loaded up and went to the Sands after work. Saturday nights usually started out with a party at someones house, then we all of caravaned to the Starlite. It was always a fun night, that ended up with going out to eat some place. Of course I was underage, but got in anyway. One night the (Mayes County) OK Highway Patrol raided the place and I had to hide in the restroom. That was pretty scary! We also frequented the Mr. Yuk Club at Grove. Jan- Do you remember the night John Johnson (not our Johnnie Johnson) shot out the outside pole light at the Starlite? He was driving his black 55 Chevy. Jan also worked in the Recreation Department as summer help when I went to work there in 1970. Jan had a green Javlin, that she, Patti and I almost had a wreck in one evening driving back to work. Steven also worked in the Recreation Department. Like I said I worked with a great bunch of people.

04/28/09 10:39 PM #480    

 

Steven Ray (Steve) Postier

Jan- The first time that I worked at ESH was with Chuck. We worked in the maintenance crew. We each had around 7 patients and we would mow the grounds. He had that 'cool' '66 malibu.
Bruce- Didn't you own the '55 chevy of John Johnson's for awhile?
Judy- How much did Mary Ann pay you to keep her files 'sealed'?
Carla- WARNING!!! DO NOT meet with Mary Ann prior to the reunion. It may be hazardous to your health.

04/28/09 11:08 PM #481    

 

Judith Ann Postier

Steve- Yes Lela Anderson was Charlie, Shirley and Donnie Remunds mother.

04/28/09 11:12 PM #482    

 

Steven Ray (Steve) Postier

Judy- And Donnie went to Sacred Heart.

04/29/09 12:50 AM #483    

 

Janis Ann (Jan) Dirickson (Marshall)

Judy so you're who I went with to those terrible places. The Sands was the one I couldn't think of.I do rememeber the JJ incident with the gun, but how did we almost wreck in the Javlin? I did drive a bit fast I know so I'm not surprised that I almost wrecked. I could make it back from Miami in nothing flat, ohhhhhhh how it hugged those curves. It was a great little car, but not as cool as my grandparents black/white 57 chevy. It would roar when I romped on the gas, only because it had a hole in the muffler. And one day in front of Haslett's it backfired and the paint on the hood started dancing and the smoke billowed and two guys in the pool hall (they even had their cigarettes rolled in their sleeves) came out and raised the hood to put out the fire. Of course the firetruck pulled up alongside the car, but by then I was in the drug store watching all the action like everyone else, I was mortified.During the carnival I took Tooter's car up town, it was a snowy cold night (by OK standards) I stopped at the street light by the hotel and right on thru I went NO BRAKES! Do you guys remember pulling sleds or car hoods behind out cars when it did snow and some of us even tried water skis. We were lucky no one slid under the car. I guess we mentioned riding on the hoods, we all loved to do that, but would I let my kids do it Heck NO. How things change when you become parents. As for working on the hill, ya never knew who you might run into. There were lots of surprises. Carla, I do remember the saddle incident, sorry. I still have that saddle by the way, but you still have Bill too. I've oiled my saddle thru the years to keep it supple, do you oil...never mind we'll talk later..Hi Lavanna.

04/29/09 11:12 AM #484    

 

Bruce Evans

Hi all, I went to Nowata regularly, but only danced; I was so naive. My car was a '55 Chevy with a 396ci elephant block; it would scream. I bought it from Johnny Allen (One Stop Grocery), but John Johnson built it. I had the job at the Post Office our Jr & Sr years and missed all the football games & Friday nights. I would work 2 or 3 hours Mon thur Thursday, and all Friday night till 5 or 6 am Sat morning. It was big money, $3.11/hour, and I pumped it all back into the '55.
Johnny Allen was also instrumental in my buying the cafe that Steve had mentioned. It was called Sam's, at the time, but we all knew it as Holcomb's, next to The Center Theater. Johnny's, One Stop Grocery, we knew it as Jennette's, was next door to the Grand Cafe. Sam owned the Grand but also owned the old Holcomb's Cafe and wanted to sell. Johnny told me I should buy it. I had some money from my mother's passing and needed to do something before I spent it all and had to get a job. So, I approached Sam about buying the cafe. I went to 1st National Bank and opened an account; then applied for a loan. I offered for them to hold my money in escrow while I paid them back. Mr. Bob McSpadden was my banker and he told me everything looked good but he needed to run it by the Committee. A few days turned into a week and I finally forced an answer. He went over and whispered to someone (maybe it was Jan's dad) and came back, sat down and looked me in the eyes and said, "Bruce, we just don't think you can be successful there" and that was that. I was pissed off instantly, but just smiled and thanked him for consideration. I got up, walked over to the teller and withdrew all my cash and walked out to never look back. I was in tears as I hit the door because I really wanted to do something in Vinita. I put my money in Okla St Bank and forgot about the whole thing. I left town and went to Houston to visit my sister Martha; I was gone for over a week. When I got back Johnny told me Sam was looking for me and that Sam wanted me to take over his loan on the cafe. So, the deal was back on. This time I was determined to have more control. Through the grapevine I had heard that the real reason I was turned down was because my hair was too long (it was past my shoulders) and my clothes were too sloppy (patch work bell bottoms). Sam set up a meeting for me to meet his banker, Vern at OSB, about me taking over his loan. My trump card was Em Price, the president of the bank, had known me my whole life and his wife was my mother's best friend. The night before the meeting I went to Bob Shoulder's house and got a haircut from his wife. I called Em and set up my own meeting with him. I put on my best threads and marched in to see Em. I told him what I wanted and was frank with him about 1st Nat and how they thought my hair was too long, but I wanted him to help me 'go it alone' with my own new loan. He bit, hook line and sinker. He looked at me with sad eyes and said, "Bruce, your hair looks fine and we would love to do business with you. Check with Vern to write it up". And, The Talk of the Town Cafe was born on March 21, 1973; I was exactly 21 1/2 years old. I was hanging out in Johnny Allen's OSG that night and bought a submarine sandwich. The sandwich package label read "The Talk of the Town" and that sounded good to me, so that's what I called my cafe.

04/29/09 12:53 PM #485    

 

Carla Ray Williams (Yocum)

Bruce- Was Johnny Allen Veva Beard's step-brother? I am proud of you for staying focused on what you wanted! I always thought that OSB was more Liberal than the other bank. You should get a loan on your ability to repay...not your way of dressing. That would be called discrimination in my books! If any one had ever seen Howard Hughes they would have never loaned him money! He looked like a bum, but he was great with making money. I would have loved to have eaten at your resturant! Do you still own resturants?

04/29/09 01:35 PM #486    

 

Bruce Evans

Well Carla, yes, he was her stepbrother, and those are sweet words and I appreciate it, but the fact is I would never have made it as a Hippy businessman in Vinita; so I became just hip. Let's not forget Howard was a billionaire b/4 he went totally weird. And, as far as discrimination, this was nothing compared what used to go on down at Clanton's where they had those plywood booths in the back for the Negros. After The Talk of the Town burned and I secured my insurance payoff. I decided to leave the fair town of Vinita and I invested my money in Taco Bell, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Pizza Hut, A&W Rootbeer & Long John Silver's eventually garnering a majority share and sold it for 6 billion dollars as few years ago. They are now traded as YUM on the NYSE.
Sorry Carla, I know how gullible you can be. I was just kidding about owning more restaurants.

04/29/09 04:36 PM #487    

 

Carla Ray Williams (Yocum)

Bruce!!!!You had me going I was already planning all of us from the reunion walking into First National to watch you tell them to take this "bank and shove it"...or buying the bank and only loaning to "hippies"! We could have all cheered you on as you handed out "pink" slips and hired a brand new staff of former "hippies"!
Do you have pictures of your kids posted?

04/29/09 04:42 PM #488    

 

Carla Ray Williams (Yocum)

How did you know that about Clantons? I did not know anything like that went on in Vinita!!! Did you make that up too?

04/29/09 08:57 PM #489    

 

Judith Ann Postier

Doesn't everyone remember when we were grade school age, that the blacks had to sit in the balcony at the show (I always wanted to sit up there), and only swim on Wednesdays at the pool? They couldn't eat in any of the restaurants in town. The black kids went to Southeast and earlier Attucks was the black High School. I remember when Martin Luther King was shot, we were immediately called to an assembly at the high school and Mr. Faulkner was in a near panic. Thank heaven things changed in the 60's. I never felt there was any descrimination when we were in high school, but I wasn't in any extra-curricular activities, so there may have been things I was never aware of. The only thing I had a beef about was the fact there was no sports activity for the girls. Every other school in the state had at least PE, why didn't Vinita?

04/29/09 09:09 PM #490    

 

Judith Ann Postier

When I got out of high school, I didn't care to go to college, I just wanted a job. I applied at 1st National and at REA (NE Electric now), both told me they wouldn't hire me because I would probably be getting married soon, then up and quit my job. What? I wasn't even engaged or close to marriage. Think they could do that today or even twenty years ago? Bob Haslett hired me at his drug store ($1.45 hr) and I worked there for a few months before going to work in the Recreation Department at ESH. I really stepped up. I made $1.79 starting at the hill, had insurance and retirement. That job lasted 30 years, and I've yet to marry.

04/29/09 10:42 PM #491    

 

Rhea Joyce Freeman (Weaver)

Judy - I'm with you on the discrimination in Vinita. I have wondered many times what kind of lawsuit I would have against Faulkner when he told me I had to quit cheerleading, student council and national honor society AFTER I got married Christmas of my Senior year. If you notice in the Sr album I'm not in any of the photos because they were taken after the 1st of the year except the cheerleader photos. Everyone thought I was pregnant...that was so untrue and unfair! That baby took SIX years to be born.
Bruce - I have been away too long. Did you or did you not have a restaurant?

04/29/09 11:16 PM #492    

 

Bruce Evans

Indeed I did have a restaurant, The Talk of the Town Cafe, and it came about just like the story reads above. It burned in the summer of 1975, and I moved to Austin, TX in Nov 1976. I was just messin' with Carla about the billionaire stuff when she ask if I still owned restaurants. I knew she would fall for it.
And Yes, the Clanton's story is fact. I was in maybe the 7th grade and had been to a HS football game. Those I was with wanted to go to Clanton's for burgers. We arrived and were seated. I went to the restroom to wash up, and as I went into the backroom there sat our own Robert Ramsay with some of his friends in those plywood booths by the backdoor. I said hi, and went into the the restroom, then it hit me; they had to sit back there. I came out and said see ya, and went and sat down. My host was perplexed when I said I was not hungry and would not order. I knew that was wrong. I have never said a word about it to anyone from Vinita before. And, I always felt awkward at the movies when Jackie Johnson or Raymond Alberty would be there hanging around the stairs near the concessions.

04/30/09 08:53 AM #493    

 

Steven Ray (Steve) Postier

Rhea- That was a loooong gestation period. Most only take about 9 months. Did Michelle start school the day you brought her home from the hospital? Mr. Faulkner was probably just jealous, because he knew you were having good sex every nite and he wasn't.

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