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01/25/16 11:37 AM #12    

 

Mary Yates (McGarr)

John,

Thanks for posting this article about the Irvin building. I'm thinking I recall that EPISD was on the path to tear down the school until some opposition formed.  My understanding is that Rosario Mabini (Class of 1965) protested their intent at a school board meeting.

We should thank her and any others who are responsible for stopping them!

Maybe the El Paso papers should come up with a copy of the original architect's design for Irvin.  I had never heard about it being built to look like a rocket.  One would also need to know when the "Rocket" was adopted as the mascot.  Usually they do that after the school is built. It's not important, but it is interesting.

The "wings" were built about the third year.  When I first started teaching in 1960-1961, I was housed in a T-shack (as we called portables then) in the south parking lot with a whole lot of other teachers. 

My second room the next year was in the new north wing upstairs at the end of the hall. (At least I think that's where I was!) That would have been Irvin's third year.  It was nice as there wasn't much traffic, it was close to a lounge, and no one ever bothered us!

I could be wrong, but I believe Irvin was the largest high school in Texas that year or the next.  They did have an 8th grade that year as well.  It wasn't long before we were all going one way in the main hall, and they needed more space.  They then built the separate building on the south side where all the social studies teachers were housed. I moved out to that building in 1966-67 where I taught American history, sociology, and economics.  That was when I was banished from the English department for a year thanks to another teacher!

I noted that the news article mentioned the low ceilings and small hallways and lauded fashionable "airy spaces."  I would point out that the size and the design of a school building have nothing to do with the quality of an academic education, and the emphasis on how a school looks is way overblown! Low ceilinged hallways didn't stop any of us from getting a good education!  Tax dollars can be spent in more useful ways, I think.

Irvin has also had a Fine Arts building added in recent years.  It is state of the art.  If you've taken the tour of the building, you have seen the larger library and the art on the walls which are all good things. If you go this year, note that they still have the class pictures up on the wall. 

I was pleased when I visited to library to see that many of the classic novels that I spent time ordering as a teacher are still there!  Hopefully, someone suggests to students that they read them.

When they refurbish the place, I hope their additions are for the right reasons. We all have a vested interest in what they do.

 

 


01/25/16 12:51 PM #13    

 

Glenn Gonzalez

Hi Mary, thanks for the history of Irvin.  I came in the eighth grade and have no knowledge of its history of construction.  I agree with you.  HIgh ceilings do not make a good student.  I notice that the new schools being built in my neighborhood (Comal ISD) look like gargantuan compared to our old El Paso schools - with many unnecessary luxuries.  See you and Gary soon.


01/26/16 09:22 AM #14    

 

David Ambrose

John,

Thanks for sharing the article about the re-build for Irvin. Very Interesting about the shape of the building---I never knew that.

But I have to admit that I disagree with a comment in the article....."Irvin was originally built in 1959 in the shape of a rocket. The school’s low ceilings and dark, confusing hallways are a far cry from today’s open, state-of-the-art high schools...."

dark and confusing hallways ???......well, maybe the confusing hallways and the great teachers that we had back then helped add to the brain cells of the graduates. It appears to me that soooo many of the 1966 graduates went on to do pretty well in life...so much for the dark and confusing hallways.

David Ambrose

PS----thanks to all of you who helped design this website


02/03/16 07:09 AM #15    

 

Tom Seitz

Hey David,     Glad you connected with Irvin Forum.   Your comments are so true, I do not every remember the school hallways being dark and for the teachers....they were Excellent!     I have a brother-in-law that lives in AZ and is in the winery business.    He was also sent back to Germany (his place of birth) to pick up on the art of making beer.   Guess there is a plentiful market for beer and wine in AZ.    Rolf is constantly sharing pictures of wines and food pairings on FB.     Know that you are enjoying the job..stay connected and hope you can make it to the Reunion (bring some wine)!        Tom Seitz  '66       


02/21/16 02:08 PM #16    

 

Pam Davis (Cotten)

Comment to all of 1966 site members:  Thank you for allowing me to join in with you all ----- a great group of Irvin alumni, class of '66!  I look forward to visiting this web site, already enjoying interesting forum posts.

Comment to Mary McGarr: I THINK I know the answer to your comment, "One would also need to know when the 'Rocket' was adopted as the mascot."  If I remember right, when Irvin first opened in 1959, we [students] were allowed to vote on a short list of mascot nominations.  In line with the large portion of military families, we of course chose the Rockets mascot and the red / white / and blue colors.  Someone correct me if I remember wrong, but that's my recollection.


02/22/16 12:10 PM #17    

 

Glenn Gonzalez

Hi Pam, thanks again for joining this site.  Being here at the start of life at Irvin, you have good insight and perspective.  Thanks for sharing.  I also heard the story that our "rocket" mascot was selected because of the large military population in the northeast.  However, I had no idea that the students voted for it.  You are part of history.  Good choice.  At first, I thought it was odd that we did not have the usual "animal" mascot, but the "rocket" is unique and something to which most.military kids can relate.  Incidentally, my father also worked on military rockets and missles.


02/22/16 12:46 PM #18    

 

Pam Davis (Cotten)

Glenn, maybe they just let us THINK our votes had real input.  LOL  Maybe the mascot & colors had already been decided by the "powers that be".


02/23/16 08:01 AM #19    

 

Mary Yates (McGarr)

Hey Pam,

Nice to see you here.

Thanks for letting us know about the origin of the mascot.  You were at Irvin before I was!

Whenever I think of rockets at Irvin, I remember taking my classes on a bus out to watch a surface to air missile launch.  We all sat right there in front of it in some bleachers and watched it go off.

I wonder why I did that and when did I do that.

Can you imagine any teacher doing that now?  What if the thing had blown up?  

Scary to think about it but glad I got to see it.

Mary McGarr


02/23/16 11:49 AM #20    

 

Glenn Gonzalez

Hi Mary, I also recall (as a young kid), going to White Sands Missle Range and watching the rockets launch.  I actually thought it was pretty cool.  You are right about potential accidents and liability today.

Hi Pam, of course, your vote counted.  We thank our early classes for giving us our mascot and colors.  They go together well.

Everyone, have a great day.


02/23/16 11:53 AM #21    

 

Mary Yates (McGarr)

Former student of mine, Steve Baker sent me this note about a book about WSMR.  His father worked there like the fathers of many other students, and he drove back and forth from El Paso.  He said this is a good book to fill in the gaps of what those fathers did in the 1960's.

Pocketful Of Rockets- History and Stories Behind White Sands Missile Range"  by Jim Eckles, published by the Fiddlebike Partnership, Las Cruces, N.M. 88011. 

You can buy it at Alibris.com for twenty bucks.

Mary McGarr


02/24/16 04:03 PM #22    

 

Glenn Gonzalez

Hi Mary, thanks for the information on the book about White Sands Missile Range.  After retiring from the Army, my father worked at WSMR.  The book should be interesting.  See you and Gary at the reunions - at Ruidoso and El Paso.


02/27/16 05:28 PM #23    

 

John Schmidt Jr.

Classmates, now that we have signed a contract with the Embassy Suites, I want to share with you the menu for the dinner on Saturday night.  The theme for our dinner is Fiesta, after all this is El Paso. The food will be prepared by the Embassy Suites Hotel staff and the dinner will be serve buffet style

The menu is listed below:

 

Tossed Salad with Cucumber Vinaigrette

Chicken & Beef Fajitas

Red Cheese Enchiladas & Green Enchiladas

Frijoles De La Olla

Spanish Rice

Flour & Corn Tortilla

Fresh Pico De Gallo

Chile Con Queso

Spicy Guacamole Dip

Corn Tortilla Chips

Freshly Brewed Coffee & Ice Tea

Dessert


02/28/16 08:35 AM #24    

 

Tom Seitz

John,   Thank you so very much for what you have done in putting together, assimilating, and sharing the information for Irvin High School 50th Class Reunion.   The work done by Committee members in making contact with fellow Irvinites is amazing.    The pictures put it all in perspective.......this will be a very SUCCESSFUL AND ENJOYABLE 50TH CLASS REUNION.      I, for one, can hardly wait.    Again, thanks for all the hard work done by all!          Tom Seitz '66 


02/28/16 11:45 AM #25    

 

Brenda Putman (Derr)

Hi ya'll! (Yes, I still say that after all these years!)  I've been following all the info about the reunion and now the hotel and catching up on who is where and am so looking foward to being at the reunion.  Everything planned sounds exciting, but do you have any kind of a price breakdown as yet?  I know I'll have to start saving so it would be helpful. 


02/28/16 03:15 PM #26    

 

John Schmidt Jr.

Hi Brenda, it is great to see you on our website and looking forward to talking to you at the reunion.  We are not sure of the cost right now for the reunion. We are try to make it as reasonable as possible but at the sometime something to remember. I am also working with the Embassy Suites to get us a great rate for our rooms.  I hope to be able to announce this information within a couple of weeks.


03/07/16 03:11 PM #27    

 

John Schmidt Jr.

The reunion committee is extremely excited to announce that the Irvin High School “Class of 1966” is now accepting registration for its 50th reunion.  Please read the Special Announcement on the Home webpage.


03/08/16 06:08 PM #28    

 

James (Jim) Holland

I just spoke with David Gass about the Reunion.  Expect he'll be checking in.  I gave him our website address. 


03/09/16 05:22 PM #29    

 

Glenn Gonzalez

Jim Holland - good on you.  Thanks for contacting David Gass.  Hope he can attend our reunion.


03/11/16 11:52 AM #30    

 

Glenn Gonzalez

Classmates, I just spoke to Joe Quintana and will send him an email on how to join this site.  He's not certain he will attend the reunion, but would like to receive details.

I also spoke to Wayne Niblack.  He will not attend the reunion.

Kenny Loyd gave me some numbers for Charlotte Allgood.  They do not seem current, but I'll call again.


03/20/16 01:17 PM #31    

 

James (Jim) Holland

Reading the accounts above of how the mascot, Rocket, was selected for Irvin, and going to White Sands to watch a missile launch reminded me of another military story that was unusual and occurred in El Paso.  But this one was a Navy story.  Anyone remember the Navy sub-hunter aircraft (P-5) that had to make an emergency landing  in Ascarate Lake in April of 1960?  The P-5 was a seaplane that could only land in water.  My family went down to Ascarate to see the seaplane.  I think that they  eventually took off and landed in Elephant Butte 100 miles up the Rio Grande to take on more fuel before flying on to the east coast.   Ten years  later, I joined the Navy and after I got my wings, was assigned to a P-3 squadron which replaced the P-5M as the Navy’s primary anti-submarine warfare aircraft.  If interested, here's a link that provides more detail:

http://www.aero-web.org/specs/martin/sp-5b.htm


03/20/16 05:15 PM #32    

 

Glenn Gonzalez

Hi Jim, that's quite a story about the P-5's landing in Ascarate Lake.  I never heard of that incident.  What a coincidence (or maybe divine inspiration) that you would eventually join the same warfare community and hunt submarines.  You had an exciting Navy career.  I also read some stories about the incident in the website you provided.  Apparently, the story is well known among people in the anti-submarine warfare community.  See you at our reunion.


03/25/16 02:59 PM #33    

Sharon Burman (Bidwell)

Glenn, I have Charlotte Allgood's e-mail. I can either send her a message or give it to you to do so.  Let me know which way you would like to handle it.


03/26/16 10:25 PM #34    

 

Glenn Gonzalez

Hi Sharon, thanks so much for your help in contacting Charlotte Allgood.  Let's make this a team effort.  Please contact Charlotte and encourage her to attend our reunion.  I will also contact her.  You can give me her  email address by regular email or Facebook personal mail.  We'll keep her email private for now.


03/27/16 10:10 PM #35    

 

Jerry Barrett

My brother Vic (71) is a board member of SmartBank which is a regional bank in the Tennessee and Florida markets. He and all of the other directors will be "ringing" the closing bell for either the NYSE or the NASDAQ on Monday / tomorrow, March 28th at 3pm central time. This will be televised on CNBC. I'll be watching!!


03/28/16 07:41 AM #36    

 

John Schmidt Jr.

Jerry I am sure this is exciting for you and your family and thanks for letting us know.  Tell Vic to make sure the market is up before they ring the bell. 


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