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03/19/09 07:55 PM #1941    

 

Phyllis Willhite

Mark, you can find out some information on the social security death index also. That is how, unfortunatly, we were able to find some of our classmates last year before the 40 year reunion.
Ancestry.com also has an amazing amount of all kinds of other records. You could search for years and years.

03/19/09 08:10 PM #1942    

 

Sandra Harris (Lint)

Pat, Don's great grandfather changed his name when he came here, also. It was Lintz, But us Americans tried to pronounce the 'z' at the end so he dropped it. Don found the spelling mentioned in his search for 'more Lints' a couple of years ago. I don't know much about my father's side of the family except what was told down through the family. My great grandfather, James Harris, was half Cherokee Indian and married Lennie Mae Patterson, thus the Irish on that side of the family. I want to know more about James but I don't know if Ancestery.com could help with the Indian side. What do you think, Phyllis?
Oh, Pat, Don's fathers family came from Germany, also. The other half of him is Italian. His Mom's family came fron Sicily. What a combo!!

03/19/09 09:57 PM #1943    

 

Peggy Steiner (Miller)

Phyllis,
I remember Mr. Broyles and our Family Tree Project - in fact I still have mine with his notes and the grade (A) on it. Mr. Broyles was one teacher I really liked and made the class interesting. My cousins have all wanted copies of it - some interesting things I found out while doing it and it will be a book I will keep forever. I have a journal my Grandmother wrote in with a recipe for "Yea Old English Chutney Sauce" She says at the top of the recipe that this Recipe has been handed down in one family for this 200 years this is August 16th 1939 and brought from Old England. I have cousins who have researched our family tree and it goes back to England on both of the Grandparents side - It has been very interesting to read the things they have found.

I will now have to get more into the research - It was great that this has been brought to the forum - grat stories everyone.

03/19/09 10:59 PM #1944    

 

Pat Kuester (Bowen)

Okay Marianna we could be cousins too. I am related to the "Mother of Texas" too. Her name is Jane Herbert Long nee Wilkinson.

My mom used to tell me not to dig into her family, they were probably all horse thieves. So who do I find as a cousin? Jesse James.

It's true too, you can get some good stories. I found a distant cousin whose grandmother was related to my grandmother on my mom's side of the family. His grandfather wrote a little biography of his life, and this cousin sent it to me. It was very interesting to see how life was 1st hand in the 1800s. There was just a small segment on my grandmother's relations. Their surname is Rudder. He said that the Rudders were known for their contrariness. I can tell you right now that that trait has been passed down to my mom and her siblings. Luckily it skipped me, but my sister inherited it too.

03/20/09 06:36 AM #1945    

 

Patricia Hamilton (Denham)

Phyllis,

How do you use the social security site to get vital records? Everything I find you have to write for them. There are services that you can pay for that will find them for you, is that what you used?

03/20/09 06:57 AM #1946    

 

Marianna Brown (Schechter)

Pat...seems like Texas is big enough to have more that one 'Mother'...here is the info that I have on mine.
WRIGHT, MARGARET THERESA ROBERTSON (1789-1878). Margaret (Marguerite) Theresa Robertson Wright, Texas pioneer and patriot, was born in New Orleans in 1789, reputedly of a French mother and an English father. Around 1805 she married James Williams Hays and settled with him in Opelousas, Louisiana. They had two daughters and a son. At some time after 1811 the family moved to Bayou Pierre in the Neutral Ground,qv disputed territory claimed by both the United States and Spain. Hays died sometime afterward; he may have been killed in the War of 1812. Margaret then entered into a common law alliance with Felix Trudeau (or Felix de Trudeau Pronounce), commander of the post of Natchitoches, by whom she had two more daughters. Some historians believe that she arrived in Texas in 1821, but it seems more likely that she arrived in 1825, three years after Trudeau's death. She was then using the name Mme. Trudeau. In Texas she may have initially joined DeWitt's colony. In 1826 or 1827 she settled in De León's colony at Guadalupe Victoria and applied for a league of land on the west bank of the Guadalupe River, five miles from town. In 1828, before title to the land was granted, she married John David Wright of Tennessee, who settled with her on the league.

The Wrights had two daughters, but the marriage was unhappy and marked by periods of separation. By the mid-1830s Wright had secretly obtained the title to Margaret's grant from De León. He took refuge in the Rio Grande valley the following year to escape prosecution for an old debt owed in Mississippi and lived there under the protection of the Mexican government for the next seven years, making occasional furtive visits to Victoria. Margaret remained on the headright at Mission Valley, where she raised cattle marked with her brand, CT, which was registered in 1838. She earned a reputation for courage during the Texas Revolutionqv by secretly aiding fleeing soldiers who had survived the Goliad Massacre. She hid William L. Hunter, who made his way to her ranch, and took care of him until after the battle of San Jacinto. On the pretext of visiting the Guadalupe to draw water, she located other hidden refugees and arranged a secret system for supplying their needs: the men left notes for her in a hollow tree, and she hid food and medicine for them in her water pail. She also took advantage of the presence of Mexican soldiers encamped on her land to steal a gun for the Texans. She continued surreptitious aid until the wounded men were well enough to join the army. Sam Houston, in a gubernatorial campaign speech given more than twenty years later in Victoria, praised Margaret Wright's heroism and called her the "Mother of Texas."

In 1842 J. D. Wright returned permanently from the Rio Grande and found that in his absence Margaret had purchased an additional half league of land and had deeded 640 acres of it to her son, Peter Hays. Wright immediately filed suit to recover the land, arguing that control of their joint property was vested in him and could not be conveyed without his consent. He lost both the trial judgment and a preliminary appeal, the courts ruling that Margaret had at the time been a legally independent feme sole by virtue of being an abandoned wife. Before the second appeal came to trial in 1847, Peter Hays was killed in an ambush on the Rio Grande. Convinced that her husband was responsible, Margaret Wright filed for divorce on March 6, 1848, charging him with habitual cruelty, fradulent land title transfer, and the murder of her son. In a series of bitterly contested actions that ultimately included three appeals to the Texas Supreme Court, Margaret was granted a divorce. Half of the joint property-5,535 acres of land and 570 head of cattle-was awarded to her. This may have been the first divorce granted in Texas. Later Margaret sold the ranch and moved into Victoria. Margaret Wright died in Victoria on October 21, 1878, and was buried in Evergreen Cemetery.

BIBLIOGRAPHY: Mary Margaret Bierman, A History of Victoria, Texas, 1824-1900 (M.A. thesis, University of Texas, 1948). Bettye Welborn Cole, A Passing of the Seasons: The Life of Marguerite Wright (Ozark, Missouri: Yates, 1985). Roy Grimes, ed., 300 Years in Victoria County (Victoria, Texas: Victoria Advocate, 1968; rpt., Austin: Nortex, 1985). Victor Marion Rose, History of Victoria (Laredo, 1883; rpt., Victoria, Texas: Book Mart, 1961). Texas Mothers Committee, Worthy Mothers of Texas (Belton, Texas: Stillhouse Hollow, 1976).


03/20/09 08:11 AM #1947    

 

Pat Kuester (Bowen)

Pat, I'm not Phyllis, but you can do it for free on Ancestry.com. All you need is a name. It is under Social Security Death Records.

03/20/09 08:13 AM #1948    

 

Patricia Hamilton (Denham)

Thanks for your help Pat. I did find some stuff on one of the family tree sites. I will have to take some more time to check things out.

03/20/09 09:46 AM #1949    

 

Pat Kuester (Bowen)

Pat, the problem with these sites is almost everything costs. It used to be there was a lot more free info on these sites. One place to go is rootsweb.com. I have found a lot of info with the census records. I had no info on my mother's father's side of the family. But his father lived with him at one time, so I found his name. I have found maiden names the same way. The mother-in-law would be in the same household as the person you are looking up.

If you like detective work or puzzles you like genealogy.
The other thing I do is google using advance search. I'll put in the name, then in the area where it says find one (or however it is phrased) put in city, state wife's name whatever info you have. You'll be surprised what info you might find.

I have to admit, I steal a lot of info from people who have already done the work. I am aware that this info might not be accurate, so I'll try to verify what they have.

03/20/09 10:10 AM #1950    

Neta Johnson (Anderson)

Good morning everyone. I've been reading all of your genealogy stories and they are really interesting. I thought you would all like to know that that the LDS Church Genealogy Center has one of the best sites to get info from. And it's FREE. Just go to familysearch.org and it has access to all kinds of information.

03/20/09 04:10 PM #1951    

 

Pat Kuester (Bowen)

Here is another site to visit for those that are researching their family tree. usgenweb.com It is listed by state then by county. The problem with this site is each county is different. Some have a plethora of information, some not so much. But you can also get a history of the area your family is from.

03/20/09 04:11 PM #1952    

 

Mark Overstreet

Sandra,
I was a director for a Native American Program years ago. One why that Native Americans found out about their ancestry was through the tribes identification number. Look up the tribe (probably a web site) and see if there is someone or somewhere to write to in regards to James. You can send for death/birth records in the state/county where he resided. Look up the state (hopefully the county) and find where you can request the records.
Also, I found some good information through Military records. My great-great grandfather was in the Civil War as a Confederate. I found his burial site in Kansas. For Civil War veterans, they placed a star on the gravestone.

03/20/09 04:13 PM #1953    

 

Don Deyne

uhhhh Phyllis, not sure helping to found NEW JERSEY is a good thing.






J O K E !

03/20/09 04:33 PM #1954    

 

Mark Overstreet

Man O man, you all got my mind going on this genealogy topic.

You can get a free 14 day trial on some of the genealogy sites. Just be careful that you don't go past the cancellation date, or you'll pay $. I used a couple of them during the Summer when I knew that I had the time to donate to researching. I made some good contacts and was able to share some good information.
Here's part of my story; You've seen the commercial with the father and his son visiting Scotland in order to find their "roots". Only to find out that they are Danish!
Well, my family had told me, even my last conversation with my last living uncle three years ago, that Overstreet was German, Uberstrass. I have an article from the early 1900's stating that Bramlete Overstreet (relative of mine) was told by his grandfather that they came from Ireland. Research shows Overstreets crossing over from France to England and some Overstreets migrated to Ireland. I have not been able to find conclusive information about when Overstreets came to America. I pushed it back to the early 1800 though. Now my "Murphy", "Meza" and "Baccera" are more tough nuts to crack.

03/20/09 08:11 PM #1955    

 

Sandra Harris (Lint)

Mark, Thanks for the info. I think I'll get serious about this stuff and see what I can find. My Mom's family is fron Baxter Springs and Galena Kansas. It's in south-east Kansas about twenty miles from Joplin Mo., where I also have residing relatives, still. Marianna, My Dad was from De Leon, Texas. It is about eighty miles south of Fort Worth, where I still have many relatives living. Where was the De Leon mentioned in your biography? Oh yeah I forgot I have some Delaware Indian in me as well from my Mom's side. I think in my senior year there was some money to be inherited by people who had a certain amount of Delaware in them. My poor Aunt tried her best to get some but records showed she just wasn't Indian enough! Everyone have a good weekend!...Sandi

03/20/09 09:09 PM #1956    

 

Lynne Scales (Thurman)

Hi Classmates,
Sorry I don't have any genology to talk about, that has been my brothers job. I just wanted to pop in and say hi to you.

Things have been very busy here on the home front with my mom. I was able to take her to the new facility 4 days this week. The best part is that she just loves it there. It's like a beautiful hotel, not at all like a nursing home setting. I feel very blessed in that area.

My dad is starting to come to terms with her going there full time. She still knows who we are and is just now starting to forget my boys and the grandkids.

I'm still grateful for this great opportunity that I have been given to help care for her in a kind and loving way just as she did for me as a child.

Thanks for listening.
Love and hugs my friends
Lynne

03/21/09 12:38 AM #1957    

 

Don Deyne

Geneva found this a booklet in her storage boxes (and boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes.) and I've put scans of it up on our picasa site. Click on this message to view the page.

03/21/09 07:04 AM #1958    

 

Marianna Brown (Schechter)

Sandi...the De León's colony at Guadalupe Victoria is in and around Victoria, Texas. Victoria is about 130 miles south-west of Houston.

Lynne...Genealogy isn't a job...it can be a very fun and rewarding hobby.

03/21/09 09:51 AM #1959    

 

Lynne Scales (Thurman)

Marianna,

I wasn't refering to genelogy as being a real JOB as in paying job, I know that it can be very interesting and fun to do. I just haven't had the time to jump into it like my brother has. He has spent a great deal of time and energy on our family history and make copies of CD's for all of us.
Sorry that you misunderstood my comment.

Lynne

03/21/09 03:23 PM #1960    

 

Lynne Scales (Thurman)

Don Deyne:
Thanks for sharing the 20 year reunion photos, I really enjoyed looking at them.
Lynne

03/21/09 05:00 PM #1961    

 

Marianna Brown (Schechter)

Lynne...I am sorry if you misunderstood me. I know you didn't mean it like a paying job. My mother was in to genealogy and I had always thought that it was and old persons hobby and I had looked at it like it was pretty stupid finding out about dead people...until...I discovered that one on my g-great grandmothers had the first name of Tennessee. It was when I went looking for information on her that I was hooked. So....maybe if you give it a try, you just might get hooked.

Lynne or anyone else with parents still alive...here is something that if you haven't done it already that you might think of doing. When my dad was so very sick we had him (when he felt up to it) record (tape) his life story. Stories about when he was growing up...about his parents...just anything that he wanted to talk about. I regret everyday that the same wasn't done with my mom. The grandkids and great grandkids that don't remember 'grandpa' love listening to his story.

03/21/09 07:10 PM #1962    

 

Lynne Scales (Thurman)

Hi Marianna,

No problem, I think we both understand. I'd love to help my husband do his side of the family someday.

I love you idea of video tape or record my mom, however today when my new daughter in law showed up with my two grandaughters, my mom couldn't even remember their names. I know she remembered Paige, but just not her name. She gave them hugs, but just made no sense at all while trying to talk to us. She is in the stage that they call 'mixed salad' right now. I believe that is the terminology they use.

Thanks fro the great idea, right now I am taking lots of photos and getting the kids to come to the facility with us and taking photos there too.

Thanks for your idea I do apprecaite it.
Lynne

03/21/09 09:24 PM #1963    

 

Phyllis Willhite

Marianna, I have found 5 Tennessees in my ancestry, Tennessee Burnett, Tennessee Gray (This one would have been my great aunt, my Great Grandfather on my mother's side sister) Mary Tennessee Norris, and Temperance Tennesse Kirwin and lastly Tennessee A. Trotter. I guess it must have been a pretty popular name. Has anyone else found this name in your lines?

03/21/09 11:47 PM #1964    

 

Peggy Steiner (Miller)

Vegas Party-June 5th & 6th sign-up list

CLASSMATES

For those of you planning on attending the Vegas Party - please remember we cannot take payment at the door - all must be prepaid. Sorry if this is an inconvenience to anyone and thank you for those of you that called me to verify this. We have to give the head count and prepay deposits an then we have a cut off date that all monies need to be in. If anyone has any more questions please feel free to call me at either 702-839-1221 or 702-301-0974 or shoot me an email.

Dinner Cost: $55.00 per person. Pay in full or a minimum deposit of 50% is due by February 25th. Balance due no later than April 25, 2009.

Peggy

1. Peggy & Stuart Miller - CONFIRMED
2. Billie Hundley-Miller & Bob Miller - CONFIRMED
3. Marianna Brown Schechter & Stan Schechter - CONFIRMED
4. Darla Ford - CONFIRMED
5. Pat Kuester Bowen - CONFIRMED
6. Fred Tortolini - CONFIRMED
7. Bill & Ramona Bailey - CONFIRMED
8. Mark & Rosa Overstreet - CONFIRMED
9. Don & Geneva (Jacobs) Deyne - CONFIRMED
10. Larry "Joe" Matthews
11. Mike Monteleone - CONFIRMED
12. Becky Ortiz-Daly -
13. Ron Cleveland - Maybe
14. Vivian Grinder-Rosnermanz - Maybe
15. Janice Brown-Guaschino - CONFIRMED
16. Tom Watt - Maybe
17. Joyce Kosht-Dresser & Steve
18. Stella Cash Olsen - CONFIRMED
19. Gene & Linda Muren - CONFIRMED
20. Sandy Brezeale-Allison & Cecil
21. Ron Tanikawa
22. Frank & Kathy (Dorr) Stipe - Maybe
23. Becki (Williams) & Bob Griese
24. Ray Olsen & Pam - CONFIRMED
25. Phyllis (Willhite)Aldana - CONFIRMED
26. Carol (Eniem) & Chuck Scott - CONFIRMED
27. Art Salazar & Cheryle Chapman - CONFIRMED
28. Linda Hernanedez-Garcia - CONFIRMED
29. Mirtha (Camacho) Rayburn & Lon - CONFIRMED
30. Robin Scott - CONFIRMED
31. Carol (Maddex) Smith & Jim Smith
32. Gloria (Dena) Morales - CONFIRMED
33. Ceclia (Hernandez) Dena - CONFIRMED
34. Mike Lampman DOUBTFUL
35. Joetta Turpen-Lester - CONFIRMED
36. Randy Roberts
37. Marsha (Miller) & Dennis Jaehnig - CONFIRMED
38. Linda Bolton - CONFIRMED
39. Genevieve Vasco-Jackson - CONFIRMED
40. Betty Haskins
41. Mystery Classmate - don't ask can't tell - IT'S STILL A SECRET
42. Jim & Paty Bushnell - Can't make it - do to work
43. Donna Boudreau Quintana - CONFIRMED
44. Delores Sauscedo Buirge - CONFIRMED
45. Tom Fordham - CONFIRMED
46. Sarah Alcarez - CONFIRMED
47. Manny Alcarez - CONFIRMED

03/22/09 11:19 PM #1965    

 

Lynne Scales (Thurman)

Pat, Phyllis,
Thanks for the kind words.

Everyone have a good Monday.

Be thankful for what you have and find something in your day to be greatful for.

Love
Lynne

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