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04/11/09 08:36 PM #2091     Marcia Kraft (Barringer) Oh my gosh. My husband loves Chris & Pitts! In fact, we ate at the one on Artesia two weeks ago when we were in California. Yum! Happy Birthday Mark from a much OLDER woman -- hope you had a great day with your family. Marcia

04/12/09 12:40 PM #2092     Mark Overstreet Thank you very much Marsha. My uncle loved to take us there back in the mid 1950's. Sometimes after body surfing in Seal Beach, I'll stop at Chris and Pitts on the way home. The food hasn't changed much, and that's good. They closed the one in Bell (on Atlantic), and the one by UCLA and the one on Garvey Blvd. in Montebello. It's getting harder to find good "old" BBQ places here in Southern Cal. Around here things change fast. Tear down and modernize seems to be the current idea.

04/12/09 05:03 PM #2093     Don Deyne We visit the C&P on Euclid in Anaheim on occasion. I think we frequented the one in Downey back in the day. I worked at D's Charburger right after HS graduation. thye had a store in Redondo as well, Mr DeKinder ran the one in Redondon and the Mrs ran Hollydale. One day we see "The Big Cheese" (we'd announce his arrival on the PA) and he told everyone we had a dollar limit on how much we could eat per day. A month later he came back and said eat all you want. We were sneaking about twice as much as before and he decided to cut his losses. One Saturday shortly after my return to the area I was out and about and went by the place. Back in 68 you could hardly get in the parking lot on a Saturday evening. At 7PM in June of 2005 there wasn't a single car on the lot. While in HS I worked at the Taco Bell on Paramount & Rosecrans. We constantly were number 1 or 2 in sales. With the schools, the park, PLUS the liquor store, the laundromat, and the pool room on that corner they used us to train managers. Between our crew and the business if you survied there you could handle any store. It's there that I swear I invented the taco salad. On break one day I grabbed a handful of broke shells, put it in a bean cup and added the normal taco accutrements. We suggested they put it on the menu. They declined. In mdmory there were some who saw me make it and asked for it. We just charged for a serving of beans - to cover the cup inventory. The summer of 67 I spent as prep boy. I'd come in around 6 (could have been a little later since we didn't open til 10 or so). First thing: fire up the steam table and put the coffee on. My first delivery was the bread man. He'd bring in a package of sweetrolls and toss them in the steamtable. Then he'd put our order on the shelves. Grab a cup and a roll and be on his way. Each delivery followed suit, put the order on the shelves, grab a cup and a roll. Worked out great for everyone.

04/13/09 04:30 PM #2094     Pat Kuester (Bowen) We rarely went to dinner when we were kids. On a rare occasion we would go to Chris & Pitts for dinner (the one in Downey). But most times, my dad would get the food to go. Sometimes in the summer, we would go to Tastee Freeze for ice cream. A big treat was going to Farrell's in Lynwood for ice cream (that was for real special occasions). When we went to the drive-in my mom would bring our own soda & popcorn. My kids were used to eating out at least once every other week.

04/13/09 05:05 PM #2095     Patricia Hamilton (Denham) We were like Pat's family. Actually we never went out to dinner until after my dad passed away then my uncle would take us to Chris & Pits and our neighbors would take us to China Town for chinese. My uncle took us to Cracker Barrell too. My back yard was on Lakewood Blvd. I could see Moffett's looking over the fence but I was never in there. We did get take out from Jack's kitchen quite a lot. Anyone remember chatterbox Terry? Even after I was grown I would go in there and he had to know how everyone in my family was and what they were doing. To this day I have not found Chinese food that compares. We did get ice cream from Tastee Freeze by the pool in Bellflower after going swimming in the summer. To this day if I go swimming I need ice cream. LOL Ah heck I always need ice cream.

04/13/09 05:09 PM #2096     Marcia Kraft (Barringer) Pat's posting made me think back. Thursday was my dad's pay day. My parents went grocery shopping at McCoy's Market in Hollydale, then to "D's" and they brought dinner home. If we did go out, it was usually Chris and Pitts (in Downey) or Moffett's. Sounds like we all kind of did the same thing. We also went on Sunday afternoon drives. Sometimes that's all we did, drive around, stop for an ice cream and then home. Other times we would go to the Pike in Long Beach, Pierpoint Landing or even walk around Knott's Berry farm (before they charged to get in). Great memories. . .

04/13/09 07:58 PM #2097     Mark Overstreet Wow! My wife, Rosa and are seldom went out to dinner with our families when we were kids. We were like Pat and Patricia. Marsha, my aunt would go to McCoy's on Bellflower Blvd. and get 7 (tacos, hot dogs or hamburgers) for about $1.00! Don, don't get me started on the Tastee Freeze stories. Hey, Art Salazar worked at Big "D's". We used to call over to Big "D's", the Taco Bell and the wienershnitzel and trade food. During the Summer we'd open at 7:00am and close the place at 1:00am. We'd try to see who could work the most hours in a week. The food was very good. I'd get there after school at 5:00, go buy fresh vegetables at the Little Farmer on Rosecrans, then cut the lettuce, tomatoes, and onions. We worked hard, and we ate all we wanted.

04/13/09 08:28 PM #2098     Lynne Scales (Thurman) OK guys, all the food talking is really bringing back great memories. Sounds like many of our families were of the same nature. I remember the drives the family would go on, and most of all I remember my dad taking us up Signal hill and driving down the hill real fast and my mom and I would scream, how silly we were. Naturally, years later Signal Hill became the necking hang out, NOT that I would know about that, just rumors I heard.

04/13/09 11:36 PM #2099     Pat Kuester (Bowen) Yep, it sounds like we all were doing the same thing. And Pat, we never went to Ming's for Chinese we were like your family we would go to Chinatown too, but not very often. Every so often my mom would get a craving for Chinese. We also went for drives. My dad was a block mason, so we would drive to places like Palos Verdes or Portuguese Bend to look at the retaining walls my dad built. That makes me laugh thinking about that. We were perfectly happy driving around looking at retaining walls (they were pretty plain...no graffiti). But of course, the ocean was on the other side of the wall. And of course since Knott's was free we would go sometimes and walk around there. But I never ate at Mrs. Knott's until I was an adult. Friday night was our shopping night. We went as a family to McCoy's Market in Hollydale. My parents would buy the week's groceries,including a 6 pack of Pepsi and a six pack of some sort of candy bar. We would go home, have our Pepsi & candy bar and watch Gunsmoke then Have Gun Will Travel. I could make my candy bar & Pepsi last all night. It irked the heck out of my family. They'd be done, and I'd still have my candy and soda. I just remembered another big treat. Sometimes we would ride with my Dad to the dime store in Hollydale and he might give us a dime for an ice cream cone (two scoops). I've got some pretty funny stories about eating at the lunch counter at Mabry's Drugstore in junior high too. Well this is quite a walk down memory lane. This is much more fun reminiscing with you guys than with my kids. I'm sure they are thinking "Old people, all they talk about is how things used to be." Remember our parents doing that? Although I used to like to hear those stories.

04/14/09 06:46 AM #2100     Patricia Hamilton (Denham) Sounds like we all did the same things for excitement. My family would go to church on Sunday morning then we would all pile in the car and go for a drive. We would sometimes stop and get 5 hamburgers for a $1.00. Sometimes we would take a picnic lunch. We would go to the mountains,Oak Glen or to visit family. Oak Glen was one of my favorites. To think so many years later I would move to within 5 miles of it. It really hasn't changed much since I was a kid. For vacations we would pack up the car with the tent, sleeping bags and camp stove and off we would go to the mountains. What wonderful and simple times those were. We did that with our kids too. My daughter does that with her kids as well although now they have a clunky old motorhome that does the trick. They love to camp. Hubby and I still camp every chance we get but we have stepped up to a travel trailer (toy hauler).

04/14/09 07:55 AM #2101     Randy Farina everyone talking about food I know a little bit about it, ate a lot of pies at moffett's, rice at jack's, short ribs at chris & Pitts. Beakfast at 3 in the morning after the bars close, Ron and I did that a couple of times. norm's or Denny's or Bob's big Boy All good. have not been to any of them in 25 years. We do have a good BBQ its call lucilles the have great southern BBQ, chicken, ribbs, pork and beef. Mark they have one in Brea, couple in Long Beach and other locations. good food. Randy

04/14/09 10:03 AM #2102     Marianna Brown (Schechter) WOW...great trip down memory lane! We didn't go out for dinner very often...until I got older. I was the youngest of 8. Up until I was about 12, my mom baked homemade bread...always. She would buy flour in 50 pound printed cotton sacks. I had many dresses out of them when I was little. I do remember the very first TV dinner that I had. I was about 11...came with soup and everything. I thought that it was about the best thing ever. Now I can barely tolerate them. I can remember going to Farmer Boys on Compton and Garfield and buying 3 pounds of ground round for less than a dollar. In high school if you went to McDonalds for lunch you could have a hamburger (.15), fries (.10) and a coke (.10) for 35 cents. I had a 67' Mustang in our senior year and I remember that I could fill it for less than $4.00. Sure seemed like money went further in 'The good ole' days'!

04/14/09 01:14 PM #2103     Don Deyne When we first moved back to the big city, my mom worked at the Farmer Boy's. When she went to work for McDonnell Douglas, she worked evenings, so I was happy to live on TV dinners. For about a week or so. So I learned to cook for myself by necessity. Dinner out for us too was a special occasion. Once I could drive she'd send me to the Douglas Burger across from the garbage scow (that's how we referred to Farmer Boy's tho I don't remember why) or to a chinese restaruant in Belleflower. I can't remember the name or exact location but it was just off Belleflower blvd. They had the best fried shrimp. Seems like a long way to go just for take out but I'd just gotten my license and didn't mind driving around. Chris & Pitts and Pizza (Shakeys or Me & Ed's) was the place of choice when we went out. I don't remember going to Cracker Barrell in my youth but I sure miss 'em now that I'm back. Growing up in 29 Palms there was an A&W, Dean's Coffee Shop, and a burger joint out Adobe Rd toward the Marine Base. About a year before we moved a Tastee Freeze opened up. On SPECIAL occasions we'd go to a chinese place in Pioneer Town up above Yucca Valley.

04/14/09 02:44 PM #2104     Pat Kuester (Bowen) Ming's

04/14/09 04:08 PM #2105     Don Deyne So i looked up Ming's and find it's ON Bellflower. Is this the same place? Where I went was definately just off Bellflower. Guess I gotta check it out next time we're in the area. Geneva sez Ming's was always there. Different place i thinks.

04/14/09 04:19 PM #2106     Pat Kuester (Bowen) Gosh, Ming's has been in Bellflower forever. I can't think of any other Chinese restaurants in that area during that time other than Jack's Kitchen which was take out. But I didn't hang out in Bellflower so maybe you are correct. If we wanted Chinese we went to Chinatown. Why go 5 miles down the road when you can go 15 taking the freeway? I think maybe it was the treat of going to Chinatown. What was the reason your family moved away from the desert?

04/14/09 04:52 PM #2107     Don Deyne Parents couldn't get along (gee never thought of putting it that way but that's more pleasant than the alternatice - grin). Mom wanted to move back to Paramount and I didn't get a vote. Turned out ok, just took 40 years....HA! The place I went wasn't much more than takeout. A little hole in the wall a couple doors down from Bellflower. But I wanna try Mings now. It IS POSSIBLE my memory has it wrong, but the picture of turning the corner and parking in the first available spot is sooooo vivid. We only went to Chinatown once or twice. Maybe related to having been to Chinatown in San Francisco everytime we went to visit my Dad's parents. We went once a year up til 1965. One day of the trip I'd spend at grandpa's corner store. One day my dad and I'd go fishin if the Muni Peer. We got lots of delivery chinese there too.

04/14/09 05:18 PM #2108     Marcia Kraft (Barringer) There was a great Chinese restaurant that we went to called "Kwon's (? spelling) Garden" on the corner of Imperial and Paramount in Downey. I don't think it's there now. Anyone remember that one? Geneva - it was kind of across the street from the Bake Shoppe.

04/14/09 06:22 PM #2109     Marianna Brown (Schechter) Don...did you ever get a pastrami from the Douglas hamburgers? They were and still are the very best! Every time My husband and I go to California we make sure to take a side trip to Paramount and bring some home with us. Last fall we brought some back for Stu and Peggy...Stu thought that we were kidding about how good they are until he tried one. Now he is a believer.

04/14/09 07:04 PM #2110     Randy Farina Hello marianna, if you like pastrami you have to try "the Hat" in Pasadena, or the one in Victoria Gardens near Rancho Cucamonga. found them in the early 70's $2.25 for Pastrami and fry, more now but still tastes the same. They have been around for years near downtown L.A. very good or if you like BBQ, try Lucilles in Henderson. also very good I am getting hungry.....gotta go.... side of ribs with a pastrami chaser randy

04/14/09 09:26 PM #2111     Pat Kuester (Bowen) Lucille's is very good, and since it is a chain you can find them lots of places. But there is a BBQ place in Cerritos called Wood Ranch BBQ; it is really good. It's a chain too. There is one in Rancho Cucamonga, but there may not be as many of this restaurant around as there are Lucille's. The tri tip is wonderful. Well Don, I lived on Golden Avenue in Paramount from the time I was born until I was 21 years old. I then moved an entire city away to Bellflower. The furthest from Paramount I have lived is East Long Beach. I'm quite the adventuresome spirt, aren't I? I take after my Dad's family. He was the only person of 9 children to leave Iowa. And that's only because he chased after my mom.

04/14/09 09:49 PM #2112     Sandra Harris (Lint) Marcia, I remember Quong's Chinese. Don and I used to go there all the time until we had kids, then it was take it home! My Dad wasn't much for goin' out to dinner. Sometimes on our "Sunday drives" (seems to be a popular activity with our families) my grandma would see a "hamburger joint" (she was from Texas) and ask to stop and have a hamburger and a malt. The way she said it with her accent made it sound so special, like phesant under glass or something! My Mom made a chocolate cake from scratch every Friday night. My Dad's 1st cousin and his family usually came after their dinner and we'd have cake, and watch the Flintstones and then a game of "Life". Doesn't that sound like fun! I remember my Dad and his cousin enjoying the cartoon more than my cousin (same age as me, a boy)and me. Wow, those were the days, huh!! I love tellin' these stories to Zoey and she likes to hear them, thank goodness. And Pat, I loved in the same house from birth til I was 22. We have alot in common!

04/14/09 11:21 PM #2113     Marianna Brown (Schechter) Randy...well darn it! If you were coming to the party in June I would ask if you would bring Peggy and I a pastrami. We just can't get goods ones here. Here is a link to the band that my son is in... http://www.myspace.com/10ccloveaffair His name is Mathew but goes by Mattie...be sure you have the volume turned way up!

04/15/09 01:28 AM #2114     Pat Kuester (Bowen) Okay, Marianna, if we are plugging our kids bands here is my son-in-laws website for his band http://www.theurbanvoodoomachine.com/ If anyone wants to know which band member is my son-in-law wellll of course he isn't the neurosurgeon. Nooo he's the green one. I'm so proud. Marcia's son, Jeff, used to be in a band. Marianna, I'm listening to your son's band right now. Groovy.

04/15/09 07:34 AM #2115     Patricia Hamilton (Denham) Groovy? Is that still a word. LOL

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