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03/24/09 11:49 AM #875    

 

Richard Finke

Does anyone know where our teacher Mr. John Dotson was from. I found this picture from Bruceville on Facebook. It may be him in high school. Go to the link, click on pictures and then find Bruceville High School.

Mr. Dotson????.

03/24/09 04:48 PM #876    

 

Judith Kay Stout (Anderson)

Rich I'm relatively certain the John Dotson listed at Bruceville High School is Not same Mr. Dotson at NKHS. I did enjoy looking at those pictures however...My parents bought Stout's Tavern from Gordon Snellenberger (his picture was listed) when I was in the first grade. I also recognized a few other faces. Thanks for the memories - Judy

03/24/09 07:35 PM #877    

 

Tom Held

Judy, Do you know Howard Stiles in the Bruceville school photo ? I could be wrong, but I believe his wife was Mary Jane Stiles. I say that, because I just read her name in the Monday obituaries in the Sun-Commercial. I only ask if you knew of him, because my mother and Mary Jane used to ride to work together in the early 60's. Just curious if you knew of him (or her). I think they had a son (Jim) who was possibly a NKHS grad...maybe '65 or '66 (??)

03/24/09 07:51 PM #878    

 

Richard Finke

Tom, That is Howard Stiles who was married to Mary Jane and their only son is Jim. He used to teach in the North Knox schools I believe. My dad worked for "Howdy" as they called him at the RS & K coad mine in Shelburn, IN. I believe the RS & K were Jimmy Redman, Howard Stiles, and Bruce Koenig. I could be wrong, but I believe that it correct.

03/25/09 11:29 AM #879    

 

Richard Finke

I can recognize everyone except the two on the far right in the middle row and the one on the far right in the front row. I wonder what ever happened to Howard Clark? Every time I watch the Chrismas story movie, I think of Howard Clark as Scott Farcas.


03/25/09 01:48 PM #880    

 

Judith Kay Stout (Anderson)

Hi Tom - Good to hear from you. Hope you are doing well.
I have certainly enjoyed your pictures and stories that you have taken the time to post.
The Stiles name isn't one that I recognize immediately. I'll ask my Mother this weekend.
My social life at Stout's Tavern didn't start until I was five (that was in 1958), as we lived right next door. Mostly, I got to know the "dads" who stopped in the tavern after work for a beer before they went home. Those "dads" were always good for a nickel here and there or a candy bar, if I just happened to go over to visit my folks. I was a "regular" most days there, too. HA!
I did go back and look at those pictures again and recognized Ms. Mary Mullins, who was EVERYONE's 5th grade teacher that went to Bruceville School.
Thanks for sparking my smalltown memories!



03/25/09 02:18 PM #881    

 

Richard Finke

I'll test the Freelandville girl's memory of who went to your defense in securing a particular ball field for recess? The two people got in a small fight with Harold Clark and one ended up getting a bloody lip. Guess who the two classmates were????

03/25/09 07:02 PM #882    

 

Tom Held

Dick...... RE: 1959-60 1st grade class. Far right, botton row I believe is the late Gene Fahey (?) Far right, middle row (female) is Kathleen Horst (?) Far right, middle row (male)....????????????????? Luellen Regarding the old 1950's-60's restaurant located between Main & Busseron on 6th Street that is currently the Trio Pet Shop: NAME: Hoffies Restaurant ADDRESS: 16 N. 6th PHONE #: TU 2-9801 Also, here is a link to some other Vincennes restaurants of the past... RESTAURANTS OF YESTERDAY

03/25/09 10:38 PM #883    

 

Richard Finke

I think the boy in the middle row far right had 3 brothers. One was in 69, and the others were younger. They lived out by Ruth Hagemeier in the country. I think one was named Scott, but I can't remember their last name.

I got a kick out of Mark Kearn's jeans folded up. I use to wear mine that way too. By the end of the school year, they fit.

03/26/09 05:29 PM #884    

 

Tom Held

Yes....rolled up jeans. Had forgotten about those. After you had come in from recess, they were full of rocks, etc.... The boy you are thinking of was Scott Curry. That is who I had at first thought it was, but I knew he was year ahead of us. So, is this is brother ? On another subject, I saw on Gerald Waldroup's profile that he had a son named Tye. Hmmmmmm.....I thought. I only know one person named Tye. He is the manager of the Save-A-Lot store that I service in Vincennes. So I asked him.....yes, this is Gerald & Linda's son ! Wow ! All this time and I did not realize this ! They can be very proud of Tye. I have dealt with many, many store managers over the last 35 years and I will say that most are lazy, out of shape arrogant people who throw their weight around and do no work. Tye is the exception. He works harder than anyone in the store and is the nicest, most polite manager I have ever met. And his store is immaculate....totally organized. Gerald & Linda...you did a super job of raising your son.

03/26/09 08:37 PM #885    

 

Jean Ann Miller (Schroeder)

WOW!!!! I can't believe it has been a year for the class website. I went back and read a few of the early posts and actually remembered them like it was yesterday. (but I can't remember what I did yesterday. Go figure....) LOL Thanks also for the history lessons. I have enjoyed reading the extra editions. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, TOM & DICK!!!

03/26/09 10:31 PM #886    

 

Ruth Hagemeier (Wesner)

Tom & Dick....Just to set the record straight the boy in middle row is Jeff Curry. Yes they did live down the road from us in the country. Three boys, Scott (1969), Jeff (1971), & Dean (1972 or 73). Their dad worked for Public Service at E'sport then on to Terre Haute.


Also congrats on the first year Dick and have enjoyed the history lessons from you & Tom. Keep up the good work.

03/27/09 10:24 PM #887    

 

Luellen Byrer (Miller)

Thanks for the memories and links to other sites, guys. Why is it the Past looks more interesting? Hmmm. Amazing that a year has Passed since Rich initiated this website. Thanks again!

Tom, thanks for getting the name of Hoffies, just barely remember that. Of the other 3 restaurants, I only ever went to Troys. Do not remember Queen's Grill at all. Notice the phone numbers start with TU2- Anyone know what that stands for? And yes it's ok Tom, that you fixed the link to read Penny Postcards.

In the 59-60 picture - without looking in the yearbook to compare faces - do I see Jon Singleton, Bob Harkless, Kristie Kixmiller, Linda Pepmeier (welcome to the site), Bob Parks?

Saw & chatted with Hank Meier today - had not seen him probably since high school days. Told him about this site.

03/27/09 10:45 PM #888    

 

Richard Finke

Lu , TU stood for Tuxedo. I have enjoyed the web site also. Queen's Grill was one of my favorite places to eat as a kid. I would get chocolate milk, hamburger, and fries and thought it was the best food in the world. We would also go across the bridge and eat at the B & L I believe it was called. The Goodie shop in Terre Haute also rings a bell, as does Mac's BBQ in Evansville. I am getting hungry thinking about these restaurants.

03/28/09 11:09 AM #889    

 

Tom Held

Dick, Very good......TUXEDO is correct. I might consider appointing you as junior historian of this site !LOL Lu The Queen's Grille is what eventually became the Alicetown Restaurant at 6th & St. Clair. Early 70's is was Lum's Restaurant and nightclub. More recently, it has been Carnival Video Rental. Building is empty presently. Probably will end up with yet another convenience store on this corner....although, I heard around town that they are asking $600,000 for this corner ! Dick....not sure if you will remember, but you, myself and someone else went to the 1964 KC Basketball Sectional at Vincennes....went with my Mom. That is the year NK won the sectional. On our way home, we stopped and ate at the Queen's Grille. For whatever reason, you started calling your milkshake a "joo joo" and we started giggling and could not stop. Made a real scene inside the restaurant. (Note: we were sitting at the table on the right side of the back entrance.) I have a 1963 Vincennes phonebook.....that is where I got my information on restaurants. There were several others listed. I have scanned the restaurant listings in the '63 phonebook for your viewing pleasure. VINCENNES RESTAURANTS EA 4-9281 This phone number should ring a bell for one of our classmates. Let's see how long it takes for this person to recognize this number !

03/28/09 12:18 PM #890    

 

Kathy Watson

Hey everyone! OK, where exactly is the track where the off-the-road biking race took place near Morganton? There used to be a track down the road from me, literally less than a mile to the entrance, but I don't know how much it's used these days. As ususal, I'm behind on all the news! I did hear the event being advertized on the radio and wondered where it was. Heading to SC to check on the folks....Kathy

03/28/09 06:22 PM #891    

 

Tom Held

Oh my....poor misinformed Kathy ! The race is what is called a hare scrambles. It is not actually run on a track as you would think of a track. It is run on a closed course, usually around 5 to 15 miles in length, that is laid out through a wooded area.....following existing trails through the woods. It is run for a predetermined amount of time, usually three hours. Most who are "into it" refer to it as woods racing. The race that was run in Morgantown, NC was part of a series called GNCC (Grand National Cross Country). It is a series that runs hare scrambles type events throughout the eastern U.S. The name of the Morgantown event was Steele Creek GNCC....(do you know where Steele Creek is ?) So if you're looking for the track that Tyler Kirchoff (Elaine Finke's grandson) raced on....you will not find an actual track. Many times the local sponsor of a particular event will partner with local land owners(s) to use their land/ woods. An example is the GNCC event that is run at Hurricane Mills, TN. It is run on property owned by Loretta Lynn. There is a AMA National Hare Scrambles event run in Lynnville, IN and it is run on old strip mining property. Now Kathy....is that clear as mud ???? LOL They say a picture (video) is worth a thousand words. Here is video of a couple guys out practicing their skills. Not an actual race, but same type of terrain. GNCC RIDERS PRACTICING So, uh...Kathy ? I guess I'll see you & Dick at Morgantown GNCC race next year ???

03/29/09 01:10 AM #892    

 

Luellen Byrer (Miller)

Tried to cheat and find EA4-9281 on whitepages.com reverse look up but it was UNLISTED. Rats.

So, Tom, I'll as a dumb question: How does one win a "woods racing" event? Hey, go easy on Kathy, too! Right, Kathy?

And how does "TU2" translate to "882" and "EA4" to "324"? or is that too easy?

Re. the '63 restaurant listings, some were familiar, some I've been to. The main one that stands out is still going strong today - Bobe's Pizzeria. Yum!

Oh, I miss the Top Boy Restaurant. Ham & cheese toppers were tops! Remember it's location?

03/29/09 10:31 AM #893    

 

Tom Held

Lu RE: RESTAURANTS - Restaurant that I miss the most is Charlie's Burger Barn. Loved their french fries.....different crispiness than other fast food places. Owned by same people who owned Charlie's New Cafe, which evolved into Charlie's Smorgasbord. RE: MYSTERY PHONE # - Only one of our classmates will know this number. Let's see how long it takes for them to notice it. RE: TU 2 and EA 4 - Simple...look at the buttons on your cellphone. 8(TUV)........3(DEF) and 2(ABC). Get it ? RE: HOW DOES ONE WIN A WOODS RACE - Well, listen up........there ain't no easy two sentence answer !! First their are two different types of woods racing. (1) Hare scrambles, which is what they did at last weekend's GNCC event at Kathy's beloved Morgantown, NC.....and then there is (2) Enduro. HARE SCRAMBLES - Simple ! Start is mass start by class. One class every minute. Winner is whoever is ahead at end of three hour time limit. Pretty simple, uh ? ENDURO - Well, not so easy to explain, but I'll give it a try. BE PATIENT ! Enduros are usually 100 - 150 miles long, and are run on an open course, never riding the same trail twice. Riders start 4 to a row...one row each minute. Example: Start Time 8:00am. Row 1 starts at 8:01. For these riders, row 1 is said to be your minute. Number designations on bike's number plate for row #1 would be 11, 21, 31 and 41. (1st rider, row 1...and so on.) A common number of entries for an AMA National Enduro is 400 -600 riders. The objective is to average a predetermined mile per hour average over the entire 100+ miles (usually 24 mph). There are hidden checkpoints throughout the course (usually 8 - 10 checkpoints). Figuring using a 24 mph average, it's easy to calculate what time the rider has to arrive at the checkpoint on time or "within his minute". Example: Tom starts enduro at 8:06am (row #6). Let's say, the first checkpoint is at the 24 mile mark of the course, although Tom doesn't know this. Therefore, if Tom is averaging 24mph...he will arrive at checkpoint #1 at 9:06am (within his minute). If he does so, he zeros the check (another enduro term). Now let's say that Tom stayed up late the night before and is tired and unable to ride fast, he might be late getting to checkpoint #1. In that case, Tom will be accessed one point for each minute he is late arriving at the checkpoint (enduro term...Tom "dropped a point"). But let's say Tom got plenty of sleep the night before, drank a Red Bull when he woke up and he his blasting through the woods at break-neck speed and arrives at the checkpoint a minute early. Good, uh ? Nope ! For each minute Tom arrives early, he drops 2 points. At the end of the day, scores are figured and the rider who dropped the least number of points is the winner. Ties are broken by scoring at special checkpoints that time to the exact second of rider's arrival. Simple, uh ? Well, I guess maybe not ! LOL Common misconception about enduros - "Anyone can go out and ride 24 mph on a motorcycle !" OK...try it sometime ! To stay on time in a long, tight woods section, you have to go as hard as possible. Bangin' and bouncin' off of trees is indicitive of tight sections. Black Coal National Enduro was notorious for long 20-25 mile tight woods sections that could put you behind as much as 50-60 minutes. That means when you hit an easy section (open feild, 2-track dirt road) you have to run top speeds to make up time. Kinda scary, sometimes. There you have it Lu. So, you wanna go with me next year to meet Kathy and Dick at Morgantown, NC GNCC ??? Party at Kathy's house !!!

03/29/09 05:10 PM #894    

 

Jean Ann Miller (Schroeder)

That sounds like a great idea!!!! Everyone meets a Morgantown, NC for the Race. While we are there, might as well have the CLASS REUNION also......I think that idea would work if Dick could reserve the jet for the trip!!!! Dick, might want to start working on the plans....

03/29/09 08:44 PM #895    

 

Richard Finke

I cannot figure out the phone number. It does not ring a bell if I am the person who is suppose to know it.

03/29/09 08:47 PM #896    

 

Luellen Byrer (Miller)

Wow! Thanks for the lesson on woods racing. Tom, what kind of win/place record do you have?

Jean has the right idea - let's meet in NC!

03/29/09 10:27 PM #897    

 

Tom Held

Dick Mystery phone # not connected to you. Lu RE: Won/loss record, etc... Most years, I never concentrated on one particular series, with intention of winning a championship. I found it more enjoyable to just "cherry pick" the races around the midwest that interested me. Example: The Summer Bummer Enduro at Roselawn, In ( home to Naked City Nudist Colony) was always on my schedule ! When I have more time, I'll tell you a couple stories from Naked City !!! Also, liked any enduros in middle Tennessee, due to the fact we could go into Nashville on Saturday night to the Opry. The only year I made up my mind to compete in a championship type series was in 1984. I ran the 35 race hare scrambles series sponsored by AMA District 15 (which is all of Indiana). I finished 3rd in that series in the 250 class. Really didn't enjoy that year. Having to go to each race to earn points in that series, when there might have been other things I wanted to do on a particular weekend, was not my cup of tea. All I got for my effort in '84 was an awards jacket and a plaque. Be sure to let Kathy know we are all coming for race/ big party/ class reunion at her house next year.....if Dick can land our chartered US Air jet at Morgantown Airport !!

03/29/09 10:50 PM #898    

 

Kathy Watson

Hey everyone! Back from SC...folks doing ok....thanks, Tom for the info....hmmm....that racing looks like fun...actually looks like it might be a little easier on the girls than the guys :) As for a Morganton NC reunion,Jean, that might not be a bad idea...Tom, I will definitely try to attend if you let me know when...I looked up the site and realized where it is...I'm south of Morganton...Lu, thanks for the support....I had a feeling that I was showing my ignorance by even asking the question :) I'm still stumped as to where Rich can land the jet....not much flat ground around here!

03/30/09 03:02 PM #899    

 

Judith Kay Stout (Anderson)

Mystery Phone # was Stout's Tavern EA4-9281. We had a pay phone at the tavern and when Mother wanted us to call her, she would dial our home # on the pay phone, let the phone ring once, then hang up (so she would get her money back). If we didn't call her back we were in big trouble!!

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