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11/30/08 07:49 PM #193    

 

Michelle Bledsoe (Johnson)

Hey all, real quick, and most importantly, thank you to those that have wished my dad and my family well. He is slowly getting better, still in the hospital, and we have a long way to go, but progress is progress, right?

Secondly, the memory books will be mailed TOMORROW -- MONDAY -- I had to mail just a few because (without boring you with a long story) the post office was giving me the run around about how much postage was needed, so I mailed out 6 to various parts of the country ... so far, I know Heather and Cathy have received their copies (at the lower postage rate thank you very much). So, the rest will be mailed tomorrow!

Finally, I hope nobody misinterpreted my previous post about talking about politics and religion. I most certainly welcome "the debate" ... we are all "friends" ... I'd just like to stay away from the personal stabs if you know what I mean. But ... by all means, debate away! It makes for interesting reading for the rest of us that "ain't gonna touch that with a 10-foot pole!" ;-)

12/01/08 08:27 PM #194    

Carri Blodgett (Crowe)

Glad to hear your dad's improving Michelle - stroke recovery can be pretty remarkable, so we're all pulling for him. Danea, I'm sorry to hear about your Uncle. Cancer is just plain awful.

Thanks Danea for your long post. You've got some things totally right. These days, the term "Republicans" encompasses a diverse group of voters, aligned for various reasons under one of the 2 parties our system has come to be dominated by (third parties are great in concept, but seem doomed to garner only a small percentage of votes). Unfortunately for "tree-hugging" Republicans, the Republican party has come to be characterized as the party that embraces & has to cater to the far right extreme that is an important component of the party's base, such as the evangelicals, to which much of the party's electoral success in the 2000's has been attributed. It is those elements which draw so much of the ire of the left, because they are seen as intolerant, un-inclusive, discriminatory and reactionary on policy issues that disproportionately disadvantage women & minorities. Those extremists certainly don't represent all Republicans, but the party's high-profile pandering to the most conservative elements in the population poisons the whole pond for most of us left-leaning liberals who stand on the outside looking in.

It helps us all to hear the perspective of moderate, tolerant, thoughtful Republicans; because by speaking out and expressing your views, you show that the party is not the monolith of conservative, minority-hating, fear-mongering, reactionaries that many are quick to demonize it as.

Your historical perspective is impressive. And yes, the Republican party has been the party of inclusion and equal rights at times in our history. Much of this happened before our lifetimes, but Lincoln was a Republican and some of the staunchest, most racist southern politicians have been Democrats. Johnson turned that around and, to quote from some documentary I saw on PBS, "delivered the South to the Republicans for the foreseeable future" when he enacted the Civil Rights Act. It was a bold, decisive & laudable action to deliver on the promises of the Kennedy administration; and it is Johnson's best legacy (Vietnam being his worst, I suppose), even if it did turn the (still heavily racist) South towards the Republican party for decades to come.

I'll disagree on one point & say that the people bombing abortion clinics are far more than "a bit wacky!" They're criminals and psychopaths. They should be wholesale condemned by everyone - no matter what your stance on abortion rights & reproductive freedom. And I'll say I appreciate your non-judgmental, open-minded, live and let live approach to things like gay marriage and abortion rights. My take on it echoes yours in some ways : each of us has the right in a free country to believe what we want and to live our life according to our own core beliefs and values (to a degree, of course we need law & order & all). In a free, plural society, though we all believe certain things are wrong, we all need to exercise tolerance out of respect for the freedoms that we have & peacefully coexist with those who hold differing beliefs & opinions. We need to not legislate discriminatory practices or religious values. I may think it's wrong to have an abortion, but I would not support a government that would deny that option to women (or which would force it upon women); I may feel that people should not own guns, but I would not support a government that would deny that option to its people; I may think it's wrong to practice religion, but I would not support a government that would deny that freedom to its population (except when that religion condones grown men "marrying" pre-teen girls or some other horrific abomination); I may not believe in gay marriage, but it is not my place to judge and I have no right or reason to deny that union to a couple that wants to marry in a church or city hall and avail themselves of all of the benefits (both emotional and civil) marriage has to offer in our society. Those are not necessarily my views on these controversial issues, but I use them to illustrate the point that wherever a person stands in their own beliefs on a given issue, their beliefs should not color their stance on whether a free society should permit other, conflicting beliefs to flourish on the topic.

To shift gears a bit, did anyone see the Frontline episode about Lee Atwater? This is the man Karl Rove learned at the heels of. At least he had an epiphany and apologized at the end of his life. Not that politics weren't always nasty, but wow, the man used some pretty unscrupulous, unforgivable tactics to win elections. (Sorry, I have a major crush on Frontline.)

Finally, from the discussion above, I do have one question for those who don't support government assistance to needy people. What entity is supposed to help those folks out if government does not provide a safety net? Their families? Do you feel charities should bear the full burden of caring for the underserved in our country? Do you believe the government should provide a net, but design a good one that keeps the freeloaders out of the system? Do you believe that, because we are a capitalist economy, those who fall to the bottom deserve to be there and should receive no help? I fear that "capitalism" these days has come to mean a purely capitalist society that does not take care of its underprivileged - that winners rise to the top and losers fall to the bottom and each has earned that place in society; and following from that, if you try to implement some sort of provision for the poor you'll be accused of being "socialist" and marginalized. Personally, I don't feel those who need help necessarily deserve to be there (nor do I feel everyone at the top deserves to be there); and once you accept that premise, it seems right that a wealthy society works to bolster the position of all its people to some decent level of existence. I just don't understand what mechanism folks would suggest & endorse if this is not a proper endeavor for a government in a capitalist system.

12/02/08 03:29 PM #195    

 

Ann Hattal (Parks)

Ms Carri, I hope for a successful surgery for your husband, which I feel will take place.
Gotta give credit to both Danea and Carri for their wide knowledge in history. I can't compete with ya'll wordings :) Danea, I know, has always been very knowledgable in that area, among other topics like engines, price of oil, stock, etc. Unfortunately, I was turned off by history at a very young age due to my experiences at school and experiences in my neighborhood, which now as an adult, has delt my hand in my political choice. As Greg mentioned earlier, experiences mold into opinions and choices which is why I find other people's readings/opinions so intriguing. Hey Danea..David is trying to convince me to visit Ohio in early Jan! But...dang the weather, the south has spoiled me.

12/03/08 10:05 AM #196    

Bethany Erin Hopper (Kuypers)

Holy cow! I can't believe I missed all the political stuff on here. Just skimming through the posts increased my blood pressure!

I think the bottom line is that we are all different. We come from different backgrounds and live different lives, so naturally we are all going to have different opinions. Let's play nice! And, kudos to whoever said, "Why can't we all just get along?". We're all good peeps...we just see things differently. (Do you think I could use the word "different" any more in this paragraph?!) Not to get all mushy here, but we are lucky to live in a society where we can voice our opinions without the fear of imprisonment, torture or execution. And we all have the right to vote and exercise that opinion. Pretty cool if you ask me. Okay, I'm jumping off the pedestal now.

On a lighter note...Ann, I want to know how your bird in a bird in a bird was at Thanksgiving. I'm fascinated!

By the way, I hate my job. Hate it with a passion. Hate it with a deep-down disgust and think I'm going to throw-up-on-the-way-to-it-every-day-hate it. Anyone need an editor/proofreader/desktop publishing person??

12/03/08 04:44 PM #197    

Heidi Lee Kinnamon

my neighbor is boss man for OSU newsletter and used to work for the Suburban News newspapers. His wife ran/runs Columbus bride. Send me your email and I'll try and get you a connection.

:)
Heidi

12/03/08 07:57 PM #198    

Jerry Patrick

Relieved! Michelle, Heidi, Carri, Danea, Beth, Greg, Natalie thanks for the thoughts. I found out late today that Lily's tumor was BENIGN!!!!!!!! Maybe I can sleep tonight?

It is interesting for 20 years I have never discussed any personal problems with anyone and since reconnecting with some of you I have, which is not my typical practice! Maybe it's connection to people you've known for a LONG time... Whether it's Political, Health etc.. the forum is definitley interesting.

I WAS going to use my Political Science Degree, for the first time since getting it 16 years ago!, but I'll stay out! You all made good, well thought out points and I'm impressed. Stay friends and keep in touch. Jerry

12/03/08 07:57 PM #199    

Gregory Simon Jurick (Blackshear)

LOL @ Michelle. As someone who was indeed born with a 10 foot pole I get your point (I know that was uncalled for, I'm sorry I can't help it)

Carrie your post was brilliant and on point. I wish I could articulate my feelings with such finesse.

Danea I also agreed with a lot of what you said. At times the dems and repubs have seemed to switch places but this was before any of us were alive. I do stand by my point that since the Reagan admin it has been my impression that the leaders in the Republican party have been concerned more for the haves, than the have nots.

Danea I also agree that people have the right to believe that being gay is wrong. The problem starts when those in power with those beliefs decide to deny me my rights because I'm gay. Hell I was gay when i was 5 freaking years old playing Wonder Woman with Becky and Laura Banks. I was born that way. I have been in a committed relationship for years however I can't add my partner to my insurance or have any type of protection for our assets should something happen to me or him. His mother could come in my apt and take my belongings. It's hard to be in love with someone and not be able to hold his hand at the movies, or bring him around my family or even add him to my medical plan. I thought ALL men were created equal?

I'm sorry but the Republican leadership since 1980 (Reagan's, Bush's) and have not been a party that promotes equality, diversity or acceptance. It just hasn't.

Beth Hopper!! I hated the hell out of my job as well. hated it beyond the telling. It will get better...or not. I still remember your make out party in your basement in 7th grade Beth lol.....

12/03/08 08:55 PM #200    

Gregory Simon Jurick (Blackshear)

Ok I'm gonna give the angry black/gay guy thing a rest for a while (ya cracker ass crackers..) sorry

TODAYS TOPIC! TURNING ON THE TV AND SEEING ENON FOLKS

I turned on my tv a few summers ago and I swear to God I saw Sheri Preston on a game show. Am I crazy?

Did everyone know that Justin Chambers (he was a year behind us, had a twin brother named Jason and sister named Mia, dated Ronna Berry) was one of the stars of Grey's Anatomy?

Anyone else seen these or other classmates on tv?

12/03/08 09:10 PM #201    

Jerry Patrick

Yes it was Sheri. Also Sheri and Justin dated in the early 90's, small world.

12/03/08 09:42 PM #202    

 

Michelle Bledsoe (Johnson)

Yes, we watched Sheri on the gameshow. She lost to some question about playing pool. And, my sister Trina made out with Justin during HS (of course, this would carry more weight if she hadn't made out with EVERYBODY ELSE too). Ha!

Jerry -- WOOHOOOOOO! Benign is FANTASTIC! So happy for you guys. Tell Heather I said hello! (And I'm glad we are back in touch ... growing up together was fun!)

12/04/08 08:31 AM #203    

Bethany Erin Hopper (Kuypers)

I think I was the only one NOT making out! I was busy spinning the cool tunes (Mickey, Dirty Laundry, etc.).

12/04/08 09:31 AM #204    

Carri Blodgett (Crowe)

Thanks a million for all of your well-wishes - Jason's surgery went super smoothly and he's now just got to get through some painful recovery time. I'm not a great nurse, but am doing the best I can. We appreciate all of your kind words!

Jerry - that's wonderful news about Lily - absolutely wonderful (get some sound sleep now). I was a poly sci major too!!

How great nice to have so much good news posted here :-)

Enjoy the day everyone!

12/04/08 11:24 AM #205    

 

Michelle Bledsoe (Johnson)

Carri:

Glad to hear your hubby's surgery is behind you guys ... now the fun part of recovery begins! Just think of all the quality time you will be spending together!

Hang in there!

P.S. Since my dad's stroke, my mom has spent at least 12 hours a day at the hospital. He's still there in rehab--probably will be through December and then we'll see. Sometimes I think recovery is harder on the caregiver than the patient.

12/04/08 03:48 PM #206    

Carri Blodgett (Crowe)

My hat's off to your mom - caregiving is demanding. Gotta stay one step ahead of the pain, hunger, comfort needs, etc... I'm so humbled by folks who have the compassion, skill and nurturing spirit to do this kind of work for a living. Thankfully good solid progress & healing is worth every bit of hard work and lost sleep!

12/04/08 05:40 PM #207    

Heidi Lee Kinnamon

Greg,
as for the TV question- I was on Rikki Lake in 1995. The topic of the show, "Women who love men in uniform".

It was dorky but I got a free trip to NYC and met Rikki Lake and the Village People. But don't go looking for any clips on YouTube cause all I got to say was my first name. All that money to bring me there and then all I said was my first name. bummer!! (it was still fun though!)

2 years ago I was on DIY on a show called "Craft Lab". I was the featured guest showing how to make cards with rubber stamps. That was a free trip to Burbank, CA. I took my Mom and we had a great time.

The best part was the studio shared space with "Q" Network. (Queer Network) - sort of like Jack's Out TV on Will and Grace. They had go go dancers, drag queens, wild and crazy shows and fun guests. It was SO fun watching to see who would come in and out of their studio!
I even have a picture of my mom flanked by two go go dancers (big, beefy men) wearing only their briefs!! lol

I saw Sheri on the game show too! I was babysitting and Krista called me. I didn't answer and then she called me again and again. I knew something was up! I flipped on the TV and saw Sheri! It was super cool!

and don't worry Sheri- I would have missed that question too!!!
Jerry- so very happy for you and your wife and little girl! Whatever the reason, I'm glad you told us. I know I was thinking good thoughts for you all!!



12/05/08 05:09 PM #208    

Jennifer Jt Taylor (Parish)

Amy (Harrison), her sister Ann, and I rode the bus with Jason and Justin Chambers when we went to Springfield Christian. I'm thinking it was 6th or 7th grade. I remember on the last day of school Jason didn't want his roller skates and was giving them away, so all us girls on the bus were begging for a skate. I could be wrong, but I think Ann might have gotten one.

Heidi, I'm so glad you said that about being on Rikki Lake, b/c I saw the show and I was like, "I know her!!!"

Jerry, it was really good to see you at the reunion. I have so many great memories of hanging out with you in high school. Remember when we switched shirts at school? I think I was wearing my Forenza sweatshirt that day, or maybe it was Benneton (sp?). Hee hee. Great news about your daughter!

Greg, you know I love ya. I have got to get some of my old pix on here. I have a great one of you and Beth B. and Bobby T in Mrs. Arnold's classroom. By the way.... Madonna in Detroit was great. Kim and I had fun. I wore my concert T from her Like a Virgin tour in '85. I felt old. Plz, if you ever make it home to Ohio, get ahold of me.

I am neglecting my motherly duties, so I'd better go make dinner for the fam.






12/05/08 07:59 PM #209    

Jerry Patrick

Not too corny, but it's nice to know after not seeing people for 20 years that they are as nice as before. Guys, again, thanks for the well wishes. I hope yours are doing well, improving?

JT Soooo many memories. I wish I could have talked to you more at Legends. Always great to be around you! As for the clothes probably correct. I often thought what was I thinking back then? At least we all dressed a little goofy, ahh the 80's. J

12/05/08 08:32 PM #210    

Gregory Simon Jurick (Blackshear)

JT I love u too. You were like the bravest chic when it came to horror movies. I think we saw every Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm street on opening night togather riding in the back of that huge yellow car your mom had. Remember when we wrapped ourselves in toilet paper on Halloween and went to school as mummies? "Us holding hands"....

To this day any time I hear certain songs on the radio I think of y'all

Jerry P- Duran Duran and and Power Station (Jerry u remember when we were the Brunch Club at Lisa W's house? with Lykins and Scott H?)

Cathy Wunder- Sunglasses at Night Corey Heart

Michelle B - "I wanna" Keith Sweat. We would go to the Odessy and Michelle would dance better than the black chics.

Beth B and Diane C - Purple Rain

Bobby Tiffner- Faithfully by Journey

Matt Peters, Mikey Gower - Anything by U2 or Bon Jovi.

I can still see me, Matt P and Kevin Buddelmeyer and Jenny Peters singing "Love is a Cattle field" instead of "Love is a Battlefield"



Beth Hopper I remember you me and Joyce throwing starburst out of my window at Bobby Tiffner and Beth Bogumil while they were trying to make out at the surprise birthday party I had for Bobby in 8th grade.....wow some of this stuff I have not thought about for years. I'm getting all Misty. Hey Misty! Thats Beth Hoppers sister! It's all connected!

12/06/08 12:57 PM #211    

Jodi Lyn Wagner (Unger)

Hi All,
Glad to hear that most of you had good news to report about your families. Danea---so sorry about your loss. I lost my aunt that I was close to three weeks before my son was born. That was 10 years ago and I still haven't gotten over it. I hope that time eases your pain.

Glad to see everyone is playing "nice" again. Some of those postings were pretty intense. Beth was right...we are fortunate to be able to live in a country where people can voice their opinions.

Happy Holidays to everyone! Enjoy the time w/ your friends and families. :)

Michelle---I received my book on Friday. It was great. Thanks! I only wish my family and I could have attended the other events. Once again-great job!

12/08/08 01:12 PM #212    

Heather Donne Bates (Cox)

Wow! Such lively discussions within the past month.

I hope everyone is doing well and loved ones are all on the mend. I wish everyone a Merry Christmas!

12/08/08 04:24 PM #213    

Michael Sean Gower

Anyone have any good HS Concert Stories!

btw, The entire Beastie Boys tape (licensed to ill) reminds me of Nanja and Greg. She was blasting it a one of greg's "parents are out of town parties". Paul Revere has never been the same.

Me, Mark Holmes and Grayson drove to Kentucky or Indiana, Rupp Arena,to see U2. It was the With Or Without You tour and it was Amazing! Actually Pittstick (soccer head coach) benched Mark and I for the North game cuz we skipped practice to get tickets. Not cool, man.

Me and Matt Peters(there were others but can't remember) went to Cincinnati to see REM. That was fun too. It was the "Green" tour and Stand in the place where you Live! was their hit. Great show. Ahh the 80s.

Saw Billy Idol and the Cult with I think Beth B., Kim Dewey, JT, Matt. Probably my top 5 shows of all time.

Then there was the David Lee Roth show!!! maybe that was the one with all the girls there. I think Greg J. went to that one too and was the only black guy there.

OH yea, saw Tesla in some small crappy venue and Russ Clonch's brother threw up all over me. Not cool, man.




12/08/08 06:09 PM #214    

Jeri LeAnne McIntosh (Perks)

Gosh there's been a lot going on since I was last on. Let me first say Michelle, Jerry and everyone who have had medical issues in their families I am glad things went well. Jerry I am glad your little girl will be ok. I have three girls myself and don't know what I would do if something happened to either of them. Michelle I am glad to hear that your Dad is recovering. I lost my Dad in '89 to a brain aneurysm which the symptoms are very much like a stroke, he was only 42 at the time. And it's one of those things I am not sure that you ever recover from....you move on and continue but there always seems to be something missing. I will keep your family in my prayers for his continued recovery! Danea I am so sorry about your uncle. I send my prayers to you and your family. And for everyone...I hope you all have a wonderful Holiday Season! It was great to see you all at the reunion! I can't wait until the next one.

12/08/08 09:22 PM #215    

Gregory Simon Jurick (Blackshear)

Mikey! Tesla opened for David Lee Roth. You, me Matt Russ and I think Mark Holmes went to that concert. It was my first concert and you guys were very concerned that i was going to get beat up because I was indeed the only black guy there.

Pink Floyd The Wall. Not really a concert but a concert movie. We were having a party at my house and my dad came home unexpectedly. We all took off running and ended up high as hell at The Wall movie in Springfield. I was indeed comfortably numb. God I miss Matt Peters.Fun times. Why did most of my male friends names begin with M? Mike, Mark, Matt...Michelle...wait that doesnt work, my bad.

Sorta good news, got some work writing for v103 morning show, just for two weeks but it's better than nothing and it's what I love doing, writing comedy and political satire, plus my boyfriend and family always make sure I'm well fed. having 2 moms and 2 dads comes in handy sometimes, ask JT. If I get a care package with Watermelon and fried chicken I know it's from my black dad. If I get a bunt cake and choc chip cookies its from my white mom. Some stereotypes are indeed true.....

12/09/08 09:53 AM #216    

Heather Donne Bates (Cox)

Mike, it was Indianapolis for U2. That concert was freakin' awesome! Remember, they came on stage in disguise because the opening band was late getting there and no one knew it was U2. We almost got to see them arrive at the airport, but we got there too late.

I remember going to see Michael Jackson with Kelly - free tickets. While I do not like MJ, that concert was one of the best ones I've ever been to.

Seeing Hank Jr. a few times and getting a buzz just by walking in the arena. Do ya wanna drink? Do ya wanna party? All my rowdy friends are coming over tonight!

Seeing Aerosmith, being in the front row and getting smashed.

My very first concert was Sheila E and Lionel Richie. he, he.

I'm sure I was with Cherie and Beth during most of those concerts.

12/11/08 03:51 PM #217    

Roland Racevskis

Wow--some serious threads. Get the fire extinguisher, or a bunch of cold beer. In many parts of the world, friends aren't friends if they don't talk politics, so I say have at it. Everybody has valid points to make. To show my hand, I'm so glad Obama won. We're moving back toward reality-based decisions, science and reason, and I think we've all had enough of fear-mongering.

But on a lighter note, thanks, Michelle, for an awesome job on the memory book!

Best wishes to Jerry and Michelle and families, and always good to hear good news when it comes.

Happy holidays, all, whatever shape they take. If we weren't all different, and opinionated, this class would be extremely boring, and, well, it ain't!

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