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01/28/23 05:11 AM #150    

 

Paul Hughes (1968)

Paul & Robert...Camp Cazeaux...went there every year 62-65 and returned in 2002...as with Camp des Loges its a french military base now...Got "taped out " for Order of the Arrow at Cazeaux and spent the night alone in that pine forest....will never forget that smell!!!...best


01/29/23 02:27 PM #151    

Carl Yorke

I love these posts and memories. Thanks to everyone. 

I have two questions:

  • Did anyone go camping with the Boy Scouts to a Nazi V2 site? I remember such a campout, but vaguely. 
  • Does anyone remember John Wayne coming to Bel Manoir? It was either when they were shooting The Longest Day, or when the movie was released in 1962.

Thanks again.  Carl

 


01/30/23 04:50 AM #152    

 

Paul Hughes (1968)

Hey Carl...no memory of John Wayne but I do remember bagging groceries for Yul Brenner!!!!!...Best...Paul


01/30/23 08:39 AM #153    

 

Tom O'Keefe (1964)

John Wayne.  Yes, he came to the community center and they had a "What's my line" show with the panalist blindfolded.  This was after the longest day came out, but he might have been for the opening.  Sadly, I can't ask him...RIP.  But we used to play chess together at the Balboa Bay Club in Newport Beach, CA.  He lived nearby and would hang out there.  Nice guy.


01/30/23 08:39 AM #154    

 

Tom O'Keefe (1964)

John Wayne.  Yes, he came to the community center and they had a "What's my line" show with the panalist blindfolded.  This was after the longest day came out, but he might have been for the opening.  Sadly, I can't ask him...RIP.  But we used to play chess together at the Balboa Bay Club in Newport Beach, CA.  He lived nearby and would hang out there.  Nice guy.


01/30/23 11:39 AM #155    

 

Brant Weatherford (1966)

Paul / Carl,

I had my Court of Honor for my Eagle award and also got "tapped out" at Camp Cazeaux summer 1963 spending the night in the woods.  I was part of SHAPE Troop 25(?) at the time.

Also, I remember a camping trip to Normandy ('63? / '64?) and the ruins of the German pillboxes, etc.  I remember I found an unspent rifle cartridge among the ruins.  Had coral/rust on it.  Gave it to my Dad.  Never saw it again.  Bummer.

Two summers ago I bought a Eagel Scount medallion off the internet and affixed it to the gas cap of my '63 Cushman Eagle (see below) that I keep at our summer place.  Longer story (see ad) about the confluence of the Cushman Eagle and my getting an Eagle Scout award.  Good Times.

 

 

 


01/30/23 12:06 PM #156    

Lynn Driscoll (Harrington) (1960)

 

Happy 2023 to everyone.

I am enjoying the memories shared by other sumissions/comments.

Thank you for sharing

Lynn {Driscoll} Harrington '60


01/31/23 07:15 AM #157    

 

Tom Trout (1966)

I think I remember seeing John Wayne walk into the teen center. What I remember is that he was bald. Like 9 hairs up there....had to have been 63>66.
Bagging groceries...had to be one of his favorites to get chosen...and a quarter was a very very big deal🙂

01/31/23 08:56 AM #158    

Michael Moody (1966)

On the Boy Scout thing,  I quit the scouts when first arrived in 63 but joined again to go to Kenderstag International Scout 'ranch' in Switzerland or whatever it was called.   What fun.

Speaking of fun things we were able to enjoy is the Dance we had downtown  with the American College and PAHS jointly permoting  the Harry Belafonte gig.   I remember it well as I was able to share my beer with Harry !  

I loved the music scene dancing 'disco' with the YaYa's and grooving to the jazz music in the converted wine cellars.  My girl friend Isabel was really into dancing.   What a trip !

 

 


01/31/23 09:43 AM #159    

Michael Coe (Coe) (1962)

Tom Byrum '62 sent this to me and I am posting for everyone to get misty-eyed on memories:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=894cde681a&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1756543082382349231&th=18607ea07a11d3af&view=att&disp=inline

 


01/31/23 12:32 PM #160    

 

Robert Allen (1957)

 

 

 

Carl, John Wayne was long after I left but I did get to see Van Johnso sometime in the late summer or early fall of ‘54. while filming The Last Time I saw Paris. I was working at the bowling alley at the time and had to beg to  get the time off as I had just started working   My Dad had loaned me money to buy a 1947 Hudson 4-door and I drove it down town. Will never forget because my rear brakes caught fire and a bus driver stopped and put the fire out.  I got a bill for him using the fire extinguisher, Anyway, I earned enough to buy a staff car that the Army was replacing.  The motorpool officer worked for my Dad so everything that needed replacing was replaced.  Stu Davis and I spent many weeks wet sanding the 4-door Chevy sedan.  When that was done I bought many, many spray cans of cream color lacquer for the body and several red cans for the top.  Then many hours wet sanding again.  That, my friends, was one beautiful car.  My Dad’s boss offered me $500 plus an old Talbot in trade but I turned him down.  If I had only known what that Talbot was really worth.  I remember the time when I had a car load we were heading home along the river and it was so foggy I had to let Stu drive and I walked several feet in front of the car so we could stay on the road..  SOooo many memories and this is just a few. 

Bob 


02/01/23 12:17 PM #161    

 

Michael Oberbeck (1967)

Greetings,

I've enjoyed all the comments about Garmisch in the Winter. Anyone go in the Summer? I remember, probably Summer of '65, catching a 6# Northern Pike on the Eibsee in Summer. Beautiful place.


02/02/23 08:14 AM #162    

 

Robert Allen (1957)

Yes Michael, early July.  My brother John hooked up with a water skiing group and I did my daily swim. 

Bob

 

 


02/02/23 10:03 AM #163    

 

John (Jack) Florio (1966)

Since it's been mentioned a couple of times, here's a pic of troop 125 from 1961...



02/02/23 07:27 PM #164    

Henry Brown (1966)

Re: John Wayne ... my mother, Thelma Brown, was the director of the AYA "Teen Center".  I was in the lobby there the evening that Mr. Wayne arrived for the staging and AFN broadcast of "What WAS My Line".  It was a takeoff of "What's My Line" but it featured service personel as guests and the panel was tasked with figuring out what they did professionally prior to their military duty.  Each episode of the show would feature some movie star or other VIP (they were making the most of all the glitterati in-country shooting The Longest Day).  I remember another episode featured Sal Mineo ... but, as I recall, that was staged over at Camp Voluceau.  We lived in De Grasse Village from '60 to '63.


02/10/23 04:44 PM #165    

 

Tom Trout (1966)

Were you in the music appreciation class when our teacher (name?) gave us a break from learning to conduct Dvorak's 5th Symphony in E minor.....and pulled out a new LP and introduced us to Bob Dylan!

I was hooked. 

Still remember when LIKE A ROLLING STONE showed up in the juke box! I took a lot of flack for stuffing my dimes in there! Still getting flack in his name's sake!

That was an unforgettable day.

that's all i got....

 

 


02/11/23 10:24 AM #166    

 

Brant Weatherford (1966)

Tom,

Those were all unforettable days!

Also,  I have a vague (as is normal) memory of a day (Saturday?) at the Bel Manor Teen club that a guy bedecked in Dylanesque garb got up on stage and began to play in a folkish style.  It was a late(?) afternoon and it was some sort of "open mic" affair.  Don't remember who it was or much of anything else that day - it just stayed with me for all these years.  Any thoughts or recollections?

On another note, in September I acquired a Custom Shop 00028 Martin from The Guitar Emproium in Lexington, MA to ease my new found shoulder pain from the dreadnaughts for lo these many years.  What a wondeful little guitar it is!  My new go to guitar.  Still have my original '66 D28 (and others) for fun and recollections.  Play on Until the Fingers Wear Out!  - Brant


02/12/23 08:14 AM #167    

Michael Moody (1966)

Lost but not forgotten .... my Conn Alto Sax was a dream machine.  I went often with my girlfriend Isabel to the jazz caves.  Sadly,  someone stole it a few years later while at college.   


02/13/23 02:05 PM #168    

E. Franklin Dukes (1969)

hi all - my first post I think, although I have been enjoying yours. I attended 5-8th grades 1961-65 but played in the high school band in the 8th grade. I was motivated to post by people reminiscing about Garmisch and Berchtesgaden.

On Dec. 18, 1963, when I was 12 years old, my parents took my 3 siblings and me from our home in Paris to Garmisch, Germany to ski; as I recall we stayed at the General Patton hotel but my memory could be wrong. This was our second visit. My third day of fearless skiing, wearing bindings my father had newly tightened, I hit a patch of ice and suffered a grotesquely broken leg. It was set in a clinic in Garmisch but I was sent to an American (Army?) hospital in Munich, in terrible pain, away from my family. One evening, a few days before Christmas, I heard the faintest sounds of music from somewhere in the hospital. An orderly told me that it was the world-famous Vienna Boys Choir, whose singing I had recently heard featured in a Disney movie (Almost Angels). To my delight, he promised me that they would be coming down our hallway! I became so excited as the angelic, ethereal sounds grew louder and the words more distinct. But the visit was not to be; I recall my bitter disappointment as the music simply faded away, without explanation, like so much else for me that winter.

This episode was a hallmark of my saga, with my Christmas back at the American Hospital in Paris (sharing a room with a soldier who was a card sharp who taught me a bunch of tricks and who later ran away with a female patient),  before finally being moved to yet another army hospital, this time in Orleans. I was the youngest person by far in a ward otherwise full of soldiers. Three weeks after the initial break they re-broke it to reset it (no anasthesia!). And two weeks later I could finally go home. The missed choir also became the center of my family "sad story" of the Christmas season as my children were growing up, although the pain had long since passed. In fact, I enjoyed their anxious responses ("stop!" "no!") when I would pretend to start to tell the tale again.

 

That is, until one birthday, 43 years later, when the story changed. My daughter mailed me my present as a card. Inside were two tickets and the heading cut out from a promotional flyer: "If You Missed Them Once, Don't Miss Them Again"!!! Yes - the Vienna Boys Choir were coming to the United States and performing at her college! That invitation seemed written for me! It was a sublime if somewhat surreal pleasure to share with her the complete performance that I had missed so many years earlier. And they were brilliant!

 

I don't recall the song that echoed down the halls of that Munich hospital, but it might well have been "Es wird scho glei dumpa" ("It will soon be dark"). Certainly one portion of the song's lyrics seems appropriate for a child who longs for whatever may be missing during this season:

 

"Forget now, oh little child

your worries, your sorrow,

that you must suffer there."

 

But for me that song, and the Vienna Boys Choir, no longer evoke pain, but joy. And the story affirms that the large miracles of recovery are sometimes possible, even as the small miracle of beautiful music may be retrieved anywhere.


02/14/23 06:03 AM #169    

 

Randall Bowie (1962)

Thanks, E.F. 
Moving and elegant account.

Encore!


02/15/23 10:52 AM #170    

David Dunn (1967)

Brant: Could the mystery folk singer have been Sam Andrew, later lead guitarist of Big Brother and the Holding Company alongside Janice Joplin? Having already finished HS, he was in Paris with his family, who lived in Bel Manoir. I was friends with his PAHS younger brothers Leland, who taught me everything I knew about motorbikes, and Danny. Sadly, Danny passed away a couple of years ago. I'm not certain, but Sam might have been attending the American College downtown. I saw him a few times on the last Etoile-Camp des Loges bus of the night, where he would sit in the back row furiously banging on his acoustic guitar. Fast forward a few years and I saw Big Brother in Santa Barbara, not knowing at the time that Sam was in the band. He, too, is now gone. 


02/16/23 10:30 AM #171    

 

Tom Trout (1966)

Brant,

Regarding the guitar player...it wasn't Glenn Goodman was it? He was always showing me something on his guitar - but I seem to remember that it was always the Beatles, nothing folky, which was my thing. (he sent me a few tapes of his electic guitar playing. He had a rock and roll band while in the Army, after WestPoint. I used to think he'd be a General the next time I saw him. Was very surprised to learn that he really disliked the Army!)

A 66' D28!. Nice. And I looked up a youtube on the Custom Shop 00028. Handsome guitar! I had a 016-NY and then a D18. 

I carried that 016NY in my left hand all across the USA in the summer of 1967. "Left hand"?...yeah, turn and face traffic, stick your thumb out hitching for a ride. See? Guitar works best in your left hand:-) Purchased the 016-NY in Springfield Mass, Dec 1966, (Dad at Westover field)  asked shop owner to keep it until I saved enough for the hardshell case. I could still smell his pipe tobacco from the sound hole while sitting by a stream in the Big Sur:-)

Early 1967, with guitar and back-pack took a Greyhound through NYC to Florida to visit one Patty Lindahl, (FSU?) 3 days later set off hitching across 10 (?) to SanDiego, then Ensenada. Camped on the shore...and walked north. In  couple weeks got a ride with some surfers going back to the US. Washed dishes in an I-Hop, saved $, 3 weeks later started up the PCH for my original destination. The Big Sur. (a Baez album cover was my inspiration - that and teenage angst) Spent a week or so there. Tried but couldn't cook & eat shellfish I found.....back up on the PCH walked by a sign "Don't Eat Poisonous shellfish in this area!"

A young fellow driving a 1950-something red and white Ford hard-top convetrtible stopped and asked if I wanted a ride up to 'Frisco. 'A ride in a convertible up the PCH on a sunny day?' you bet! He took a hotel room near Union Square, let me sleep on the floor. (I had to come down the ledge and come in the window - bypasing the front desk) Days later he asked if I could cook. "?! Ah, sure can!"  Because he took an apt ...and I could room there if I did the cooking! He'd rented a 2nd floor apt on Haight st., like 2 blocks from GG Park. Smack in the middle of Haight/Ashbury. He was dating a stripper, he claimed to make his living as a chess hustler. Gone all hours at night. They were actaully a very nice couple. He gave me $ to buy the groceries. My specialty was jack-mackeral spaghetti with sourdough bread! I earned my own $ money with the 016-NY on Nob Hill or down at Fisherman's Wharf. Make $2 or $3 and knock off work for the day. Once got a five from a couple from Ohio on Nob Hill! Hotel doorman kept running me off.....

Saw lots musicians in GG Park or over in the Panhandle in free concerts. Never wore my soft Italan leather boots all that summer! One memory: huddled around a plastic radio in the kitchen at midnight listening to the 1st playing of "Sgt. Pepper's...." ! "Are you high?. no, me neither...but WTH!!??" We were all straight - but blown away. Actually - I rarely did anything. One trip was enough. Some pot --- hearing Whiter Shade of Pale for the 1st time while laying with friends on the hood of a car watching the morning fog dissapate at the shore... amazing

It was an amazing year! Included organizing a love-in in Covina. (near Pasadena)(kid youtubed an 8mm of it a few yrs ago) Married an 18 yr old in LA. (I was 19. and  NO.... she didn't get pregnant until I came home from 'Nam in '72) Baez concert tickets at UCLA for wedding present. Donovan at the Hollywood Bowl. Got my draft status changed to 1A-O in Mass to train & serve as a C.O. in 'Nam. (huge suprise it was granted! "I work in a hospital, I know I could be a good medic." 'you'd be going in harms way to S.E Asia w/o a weapon - you know that?' "yes sir." 'OK kid, you got it') . (I was a good medic. Most important job I've ever had - loved those guys) Drafted 13 mos after our wedding. We had 4 great kids. For various reasons went across the USA 3 times with that guitar, in my left hand. (was told that the guitar was major reason folks stopped for me)

Oh yeah....I was told that the 016-NY could be played with nylon strings or light gauge steel strings. I kept nylon on it. I quit playing in '88, after the divorce that year. Sold the Martins - as a single parent with 4 kids I needed the $.

 


02/16/23 09:08 PM #172    

 

Brant Weatherford (1966)

David,

Good to hear from you and thanks for your reply.

Never thought the unnamed folk singer could have been Sam Andrews.  Could have been. If Leland is still on this site maybe he could give us some insight.

I saw Janis with Big Brother in Dallas in 1968.  Mind-blowing concert!  I don't think I knew of the Sam Andrews / Paris connection at the time but somehow learned of it later.  Funny how we all seem to be 7 degrees of seperation from everyone else.

Stay well and if you're ever in either of my neighborhoods, give us a shout out.

Brant Weatherford


02/16/23 09:32 PM #173    

 

Brant Weatherford (1966)

Tom,

Good to hear from you again.  And the tale of your adventures back in the day remind me of some of mine as well.  Nothing like traveling the roads of this county!  I did the eastern half of the country in a VW bus in the early 70's and the western half on an HD Fatboy from the middle 90's up until 2010 when my traveling partner rode off into the eternal sunset.  Kept riding the Fat until March 3, 2022 when, on a beautiful day riding through the countryside, the bottom end of the engine blew up and left me on the side of the road.  Today she still sits in my garage but I think those riding / touring days are over.  Too much bike for my aging frame.  Fortunately, I have the '63 Cushman up north to scratch that itch.

So you're not playing guitar anymore?  I just don't know what I'd do without a pickin' circle here and up north to fill that sweet spot.  I've even hand surgery on both hands over the past 6 years to keep the fingers movin' in the right directions.  Someday I'll need brain surgery to get my mind back up to speed.

You still riding your Vespa-ish type scooter?  I keep my riding around 45mph these days which also happens to be the sped limit on island.  Win-win in the wind!

Stay well my friend,

Brant

 


03/21/23 04:39 PM #174    

Paul Reinecke III (1961)

Yes, it's happening on March 28 ...   birthday #80

And all is well with me and family. Greetings to all that were there between the summer of '57 and the summer of '60 (my 9th-11th grade years).

Paul


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